From chemistry-request \\at// ccl.net Fri Jul 26 12:24:15 1991 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1991 12:13 EDT From: "DOUGLAS A. SMITH" Subject: Re: Reply to "MOPAC6.0 geometry optimization" To: zheng \\at// retina.chem.psu.edu Status: R The default minimization routine in both MOPAC 5.0 and 6.0 is BFGS. DFP has been discounted as a tremendously useful method. MOPAC 6.0 also has eigenvector following (EF), which was not in 5.0. Your comment concerning the necessity to check that all optimization methods etc. are the same is salient. I don't believe that the isomer possibility is too viable. We have done enough tests to believe that while you do find a stationary point at higher energy, it is typically very unrealistic as far as real chemistry (at least for our systems). Doug Smith