From chemistry-request-!at!-www.ccl.net Fri Mar 5 11:30:11 1999 Received: from servidor.unam.mx (servidor.unam.mx [132.248.10.5]) by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/8.8.6/OSC/CCL 1.0) with ESMTP id LAA18626 Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:30:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (apisan /at\localhost) by servidor.unam.mx (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA26303; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:27:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:27:44 -0600 (CST) From: Pisanty Baruch Alejandro-FQ To: Jaime Martell cc: CCL , Patrick Bultinck Subject: Re: CCL:QC journals 'in trouble' In-Reply-To: <199903051327.IAA05043&$at$&bulldog.unca.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Patrick and all, let's be brief since this is not a mainstream CCL topic. Patrick's original mail on impact factors shows the fundamental illness of bibliometric research for all its claims of objectivity. The fact is that the impact factors are skewed in favor of secondary sources which aggregate the results of a number of original papers. That is why even JACS and other major, highly respected and highly quoted journals don't make it to the top, whereas all forms of reviews do. This is not meant to disparage reviews! - just to add perspective, recognizing that some of the very major journals are also in the top. Specialized knowledge gets lost in this turmoil. Whether it be theoretical chemistry or tannery, specialized journals just don't cut it for bibliometers. Yet bibliometry is most surely here to stay and, as Patrick makes it clear, is a well established church with dogmas and rituals which will not move. So my way of thinking is along Jaime Martell's last line: tune policy, personalize assessments of researchers (we ARE persons!). Alx . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. Alejandro Pisanty, Director General de Servicios de Computo Academico (Director, Computing Academic Services) Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico (UNAM) Ciudad Universitaria, 04510 Mexico City DF MEXICO Tel. (+52-5) 622-8541, 622-8542; Fax 622-8540 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .