From chemistry-request: at :server.ccl.net Mon Nov 15 18:41:57 1999 Received: from sunflare.ccs.yorku.ca (sunflare.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.128]) by server.ccl.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA26990 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:41:57 -0500 Received: from curl.gkcl.yorku.ca (curl.gkcl.yorku.ca [130.63.232.224]) by sunflare.ccs.yorku.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA02836 for < -8 at 8- mailrelay.yorku.ca:chemistry -8 at 8- ccl.net>; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by curl.gkcl.yorku.ca (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for chemistry # - at - # ccl.net id SAA03014; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:38:01 -0500 From: chan*- at -*curl.gkcl.yorku.ca (Wai-To-Chan) Message-Id: <199911152338.SAA03014 -A_T- curl.gkcl.yorku.ca> Subject: Ionization of a molecule... To: chemistry ^at^ ccl.net Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:38:00 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am not sure about the nature of the 'potential barrier' to the detachment of an electron from an anion you refered to. The only such quantity that can measure such a barrier I know of is either the potential term from the Hartree-Fock one-electron equation or the one from the exact-one-electron schrodinger equation. You may find the discussion from Yang, Liu and Wang chem phys lett vol 258 pg 30 (1996) which shows how the ionization potential of an electron is related to the limit of the one-electron potential at infinite distance from a molecule relevant. In principle you can determine from visualization of distribution of the potential where an electron is 'forbidden' or 'allowed' as well as the barrier to removal of the electron in a molecule. But I highly doubt such information will be useful for spectroscopic measurement. If I am concerned with 'barrier' to ionization of an anion I will evaluate the intensity of the electron detachment spectrum (like calculating the Frank-Condon factor for an electronic excitation to determine how 'easy' a transition will take place) instead. I recall seeing reports of calculation of intensity of photo electron-detachment spectrum using some deconvolution method long ago but don't have any references handy with me. Email me if you are interested in any details. Wai-To Chan <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Is there a software package that will calculate the potential experienced by an electron as the parent molecule is ionized? I.e., calculate the energy as an electron is stepped further from the molecule (which is fixed in the optimized geometry). I am interested in determining the barrier as a polyanion is ionized. There is initially an attractive force holding the electron near the molecule. As the distance between the molecule (anion) and electron is increased, the dominant force becomes coulomb repulsion. Any references to published work would be appreciated. Roy Jensen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>