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From:  lohrenz # - at - # zinc.chem.ucalgary.ca (John Lohrenz)
Date:  Wed, 3 May 1995 11:05:33 -0600 (MDT)
Subject:  Summary: DFT functionals


A week ago or so I posted a query about the reliability of functionals
in DFT. Thanks for all who responded. Although I didn't answer every
comment personally I appreciate the information.
My personal feeling is, that there still is a lot of work left for the
evaluation of the different functionals. Second there is no! standard
functional although some seem to do better than other in general. I am
looking forward to see how the "mixed" or "hybrid" methods will do...
Furtheron it would be nice to see, what is a good choice for TM complexes
and properties.

Once again thanks to every single one.

John



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The original question:

Hi everone,

while browsing through the most recent summaries I noticed that someone
stated that BLYP (in his eyes) is the best combination of functionals.
I heard a lot of this kind of information. Other people favour the
mixed HF-methods... There seems to be some confusion. I would like to
hear, what experiences are there, concerning the quality of results
calculated with different combinations of functionals. Has somebody
systematically studied this? What about transition metal complexes?
Quality of geometries? Relative energies? Transition states? Bond energies?

I would like to summerize the responses. I think it should be of general
interest to a least have an idea of the quality of the applied functional.
I get the strange feeling that BLYP is becoming something like a standard
just because it is stated so in the G92/DFT manual.

John


And here the answers:
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Gabor I. Csonka (csonka (+ at +) iris.inc.bme.hu) wrote:

Hello John,

We recently published a paper on the First ECCC (ECCC1). It is the Paper 50.
As far as I know it was accepted for the final CD release. The details:

Title: The performance of Gradient Generalized Approximation DFT Methods with
Gaussian Basis Sets: Sulfur-containing Molecule

Gábor I. Csonka, N. Anh and J. Réffy

Department of Inorganic Chemistry, Technical University of Budapest

H-1521 Budapest, Hungary

E-mail: csonka;at;iris.inc.bme.hu

The abstract: The performance of Gradient Generalized Approximation Density Functional Theory (GGA-DFT) methods with Gaussian basis sets are examined by studying 5 small molecules. Their geometries are optimized by HF, MP2 and DFT methods to which we have applied four different DFT functionals. The gradual improvements of basis sets gradually decrease the bond lengths and increase the bond angles. Accidentally the HF/6-311G(d) results are close to the experimental results while the improvement of the basis sets to 6-311G(2d,f) decreased the agreement with experimental observations. The inclusion of the electron correlation effect increases the bond lengths considerably. The various GGA-DFT results agree qualitatively with each other and with the MP2 results. Some functionals provide exaggerated effects and poor agreement with experimental results while others yield reasonable correlation. Conclusion: The results show that various GGA-DFT methods introduce different strength of electron correlation. It was found that the correlation strengths increase in the following order: B3-P86, B3-LYP, B-P86 and B-LYP. In general the basis set dependence of the GGA-DFT methods is not larger than that of the HF method for the present cases. --------------------------------------- Comment: One can fine tune the approximate functionals by increasing or decreasing the correlation effects. If correlation effects are weak mixed functionals from the above list will perform well. Otherwise you should apply methods wich can reproduce the stronger correlation. The paper contanis lot of figures. You can find the paper on my web home page or on the ECCC1 hompage -- Gabor I. Csonka Budapest University of Technology Tel/FAX: (361) 463.18.35 Inorganic Chemistry Dept. Ch. Bldg csonka #*at*# iris.inc.bme.hu H-1111, Bp. Szent Gellert ter 4 http://www.fsz.bme.hu/bme/chemical/csonka.html ============================================================================= Jan Hrusak (hrusak;at;jh-inst.cas.cz) wrote: Hi John, we are using DFT methods now for a good while comparing the results quite often to those obtained by sophisticated ab initio calculations like CCSD(T) (larger polarized basis sets). In the beginning I got the same impression You mentioned." B-LYP is a standard". Now after spending few CPU years on comparing the different DFT and approximate DFT methods for neutral, cationic, anionic, organic and metalorganic systems I would be more carefull. There is nothing like a general standard method. For many cases I saw the B3LYP working in a excelent agreement with experiment and highly correlated ab initio methods for both structures and energies. Using ECP's we got also quite a lot very nice results even for heavy transition metal containing systems. However, in other case this parametrized method fails and pure DFT proceed better. An (in my opinion) still unsolved problem are the open shell systems (often found with TM). Here DFT/HF methods give often unphysical results like wrong ground states, while pure DFT offer the qualiattive agreement with the experiment. I would be interested to get the summary on Your request Jan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Jan Hrusak ############################### J. 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Smith (jas $#at#$ medinah.atc.ucarb.com) wrote John: Warren Hehre's new book on "Practical Strategies for Electronic Structure Calculations" (from Wavefunction, Inc) gives a presents a very good comparison of the differents methods (AM1, HF, SVWN, BLYP, B3LYP, MP2) and basis sets (STO-3G, 3-21G(*), 6-31G*, 6-311+G((2d,p)) for equilibrium geometries, transition state structures, conformational energies, reaction (thermodynamic) energies , activation (kinetic) barriers, dipole moments, charges, etc. He discusses when correlation (MP2 or DFT) is important, when geometries from lower-level theories are adequate, when basis set choice is critical, the importance of posing problems as an anlogous series of isodesmic reactions where possible, etc. I found the book very informative. The book doesn't discuss any other energy functionals besides the 3 mentioned (nor any form of CI, CC theory, or MP beyond 2nd order). It doesn't cover any transition metal complexes. It doesn't discuss any "strategies" like G2 or CBS-4, but maybe "S5" (Spartan-5) is in the works? ;-) - Jack -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JACK A. SMITH || Union Carbide Corp. || Phone: (304) 747-5797 Catalyst Skill Center || FAX: (304) 747-5571 P.O. Box 8361 || S. Charleston, WV 25303 || Internet: jas -AatT- medinah.atc.ucarb.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ============================================================================= Andrew T. Pudzianowski (pudzianowski { *at * } bms.com) wrote: John - I have made a fairly thorough comparison of the B-LYP combin- ation with the Becke3-LYP (B3-LYP) combo, where the B3 exchange functional has a Hartree-Fock component. This was done with the 6-311++G(d,p) basis and compared with MP2/6-311++G(d,p) results for the same systems, which were 10 ionic H-bonded binary systems, i.e., 10 ion/molecule systems of which 5 were cationic and 5 were anionic. Two examples are CH3NH3+/NH3 and HCOO-(formate)/H2O. The B3-LYP results are tangibly closer than B-LYP to the MP2 values. To make things simpler I'll quote you root mean square dev- iations from MP2 for complexation energies at 0 K (delta E0), comp- lexation enthalpies at 298.15 K (delta H), acceptor-hydrogen distances (A--H) and acceptor-donor center distances (A--D) for the fully optim- ized H-bonded complexes. For delta H I also have rms deviations from experimental gas-phase values. Energies are in kcal/mol, distances in Angstroms. (delta E0)rms (delta H)rms(MP2) (delta H)rms(exp) B-LYP 0.92 1.06 1.92 B3-LYP 0.69 0.73 1.65 MP2 ---- ---- 1.21 (A--H)rms (A--D)rms B-LYP 0.034 0.026 B3-LYP 0.019 0.014 Remember, these are rms deviations of the specified results from the the corresponding MP2 values for all ten systems except in the compar- ison with experimental enthalpies, where the deviations are with res- pect to the experimental quantities. I think you'll agree that B3-LYP does a better job on ionic H-bonded systems. I'm busy writing all this stuff up and with luck it will appear in print towards the end of the year. Best wishes, Andy Pudzianowski *********************************************************************** Andrew T. Pudzianowski,Ph.D. Bristol-Myers Squibb PRI Box 4000 * "There are two ways to do things. Princeton NJ 08543-4000 * There's the scientific way, and (609) 252-4248 * there's the disgusting way." (609) 252-5747: fax * pudzianowski # - at - # bms.com * "Beakman's World", 1994 *********************************************************************** ============================================================================= Benny Johnson (JOHNSONB : at : B.PSC.EDU) wrote: Dear Dr. Lohrenz, For a systematic study of DFT geometries, vibrational frequencies, dipole moments and atomization energies by different combinations of functionals see B.G. Johnson, P.M.W. Gill and J.A. Pople, J. Chem. Phys. 98, 5612 (1994). Qualitatively, it was found that Becke gradient-corrected exchange + a correlation functional (either local or gradient corrected) gave the best results, with B-LYP giving the best performance out of the set of 6 functionals studied. A later paper examined open-shell H abstraction barrier heights with even more combinations of functionals, including GGA's: B.G. Johnson, C.A. Gonzalez, P.M.W. Gill and J.A. Pople, Chem. Phys. Lett. 221, 100 (1994). Here it was found that none of the functionals gave acceptable results. However, the performance of the various gradient-corrected functional pairs on this particular problem was similar, e.g. the GGA91-GGA91 results were not too different from the B-LYP results. Other studies have found similar results as to the quality of functionals. There are definitely some functionals that are much better than others -- generally these involve gradient corrections. However, there currently does not seem to be a single combination of functionals which is demonstrably superior to all others on a wide range of chemical problems. B-LYP is one of the leaders, but by no means does it always perform well. This, plus the fact that there is no real way to systematically improve the quality of a density functional (as contrasted with usual ab initio theories, where one can e.g. keep going to larger and larger CI expansions) makes systematic validation studies of DFT methods critically important. Cheers, Benny Johnson Q-Chem, Inc. 317 Whipple St. Pittsburgh, PA 15218 ============================================================================= Scott E. Boesch (SBOESCH %-% at %-% aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu) wrote: Dr. Lohrenz, I noticed your message on CCL and I would refer you to a paper that is currently in press for the Journal of Physical Chemistry. S.E. Boesch and R.A. Wheeler ; Jouranl of Physical Chemistry; 1995. I will send you a preprint as soon as I receive them. It is supposed to be published in May. The title of the paper is 'Pi-Donor Substituent Effects on Calculated Structures and Vibrational Frequencies of p-Benzoquinone, p-Fluoranil, and p-Chloranil' We did geometry optimizations and frequency calculations on the three molecules mentioned above. For, p-benzoquinone we did optimizations using every possible combination of exchange and correlation functionals available in G92/DFT . (Of course, we did not include all of that in the paper.) For p-benzoquinone, we found that the hybrid Hartree-Fock/Density Functional methods ( B3P86 and B3LYP) gave the best geometries, almost within experimental error of electron diffraction structures. The pure density functional method that gave the best structures was the local density functional method, SVWN, which uses Slater's exchange functional and the correlation functional of Vosko, Wilk, and Nusair. I would be happy to send you a preprint as soon as they are available. Also, if you want information regarding the different combinations of functionals that we did not put in the paper, I could provide that. If you have any questions, feel free to email me at SBOESCH[ AT ]aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu Scott E. Boesch Department of Chemistry #*at*# Biochemistry University of Oklahoma Norman, OK 73019 ============================================================================= Joe Durant (jdurant { *at * } ca.sandia.gov) wrote: Hi John! First off, I am interested in a summary of the responses you get. On to the meat of the matter. I have been focussing on calculation of transition states, and have been comparing various DFT functionals to a set of transition states which I believe have been well characterized by more traditional methods (see J. Chem. Phys. 98, 8031o 1993 for the full list). The transition states include things like H + H2 -> H2 + H, F + H2 -> HF + H, O + HCl -> OH + Cl; I feel fairly comfortable that the energies, frequencies and geometries are not too far off reality. I have looked at these transition states using G92/DFT with the BLYP, B3LYP, B3P86 and BHandHLYP functionals. First off, BLYP fails miserably. O + HCl -> OH + Cl has a 8.5 kcal/mole barrier. BLYP predicts that the surface is completely attractive, although there is an inflection point at about the right geometry for the transition state. It also fails to find the barrier in the F + H2 -> HF + H system. I gave up on it at that point. The B3xx functionals fared somewhat better, but they both systematically underpredicted the barriers for reactions (average underprediction of 5+ kcal/mole for B3P86, and 4+ kcal/mole for B3LYP, with average deviations of about 2 kcal/mole in each case). B3LYP failed to find the F + H2 -> HF + H transition state. BHandHLYP wins my vote for the best functional. It underpredicted barriers by less than 1 kcal/mole, with an average deviation of about 2 kcal/mole. (I suspect that this performance is comparable to that for the G2 data set). Geometries are generally good to < 0.05 A and < 4 degrees. Frequencies aren't as good, with errors of the order of 300 cm-1 being common. I have quoted performances using "about" and "order of" because I have done calculations using 6-31G*, 6-311G**, 6-311++G** and 6-311G(3df,2p) basis sets. I don't find any systematic trends... bigger basis sets don't seem to offer better performance (although I am settling on 6-311G** as a "standard"). One other note: Gaussian noted that BHandHLYP as implemented in G92/DFT is a different functional than that proposed by Becke. But it works. Joe -- #################################################################### # Joe Durant voice: (510) 294-3343 # # Mail Stop 9055 FAX: (510) 294-2276 # # Sandia National Laboratories jdurant -AatT- ca.sandia.gov # # Livermore, CA 94551 http://mephisto.ca.sandia.gov # #################################################################### ============================================================================= John M. McKelvey (mckelvey ( ( at ) ) Kodak.COM) wrote: I prefer Beck3LYP....It gives very good geometries, which seem more accurate than from BLYP, at least for my applications. In general Gaussian, Inc., prefers Becke3LYP, overall. Regards, John -- John M. McKelvey email: mckelvey ^at^ Kodak.COM Computational Science Laboratory phone: (716) 477-3335 2nd Floor, Bldg 83, RL Eastman Kodak Company Rochester, NY 14650-2216 -- ============================================================================= Max Muir (mxm - at - biosym.com) wrote: Dear Dr. Lohrenz, you may care to look at "A study of some organic reactions using density functional theory" Jon Baker, Max Muir, and Jan Andzelm, J. Chem. Phys. 102(5), 1995. We studied twelve reactions (6 radical and 6 closed shell) with BIOSYM's TurboDFT at the 6-31G* level. Regards, Max Muir ============================================================================= end -- ========================================================================= Dr. John Lohrenz Dept. of Chemistry Phone: (403) 220 3232 University of Calgary FAX: (403) 289 9488 2500 University Drive, N.W. 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