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Hi folks:

Recently I run a little expensive job in PC using
G98W (Revision A.3) successfully.  However, the same
job aborted due to disconvergence in SGI R12000
machine G98 "Revision A.7" and the final output is

Cycle 100  Pass 1  IDiag 1:
Restarting incremental Fock formation.
E=-0.630995259581775D+04 Delta-E=        7.732748886405
DIIS: error= 1.66D+00 at cycle   1.
RMSDP=3.82D-01 MaxDP=2.46D+01

 >>>>>>>>>> Convergence criterion not met.
SCF Done:  E(RB+HF-LYP) =  -4608.89908223     A.U. after  101 cycles
             Convg  =    0.3824D+00             -V/T =  1.9877
             S**2   =   0.0000
KE= 4.666224645423D+03 PE=-1.537682976781D+04 EE= 4.400652526566D+03
Convergence failure -- run terminated.
Error termination via Lnk1e in /usr/local/g98.a.7/g98/l502.exe.
Job cpu time:  0 days  3 hours  4 minutes  5.3 seconds.
File lengths (MBytes):  RWF=   19 Int=    0 D2E=    0 Chk=    1 Scr=    1


A close look leads to a clue: the number of primitive
gaussian functions are different!  See:

In G98W:
   176 basis functions      476 primitive gaussians
    76 alpha electrons       76 beta electrons

While in SGI:

   176 basis functions      494 primitive gaussians
    76 alpha electrons       76 beta electrons

Does anybody know why? I am attching the input file in
this mail in case you have interested to have a look.

Thanks.

Wen (qiuwen@hotmail.com)


%Chk=Fe-Fetest2
#p b3lyp/gen opt fmm scf(conver=6,maxcycle=100)

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    0    1
S 0   -2.883423    2.429337   -0.235535
S 0    0.075821    3.123230    1.824768
S 0    2.605881   -1.189072   -0.411575
S 0   -0.370636   -1.860687   -2.446838
Fe 0    0.579041   -0.593765   -0.949295
Fe 0   -0.855713    1.852554    0.318558
S 0    0.443680    1.564056   -1.460526
S 0   -0.710983   -0.303284    0.836487
H 0   -3.158340    1.920822   -1.448288
H 0    1.036591    2.419907    2.447067
H 0    3.158325   -0.217163    0.333694
H 0   -0.392181   -3.123215   -1.988815

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Subject: SUMMARY:  number of rotatable bonds in drug-like molecules: references ?
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Thanks very much to all who responded.

The paper by Oprea says that 70% of drug-like molecules have between 2 and 8
rotatable bonds.

My understanding of the rationale behind this number is that rotation around
8-9 rotatable bonds would cost ~ 9 * 1.4 kj/mol/rotatable bond = 12.6
kJ/mol/rotatable bonds, or ~ 3kcal/mol/rotatable bond. This would be
commpensated by a hydrogen bond when the ligand is bound to the receptor.
Rotattion around a higher number of rotatable bonds would be more difficult
to compensate in term of non-bonded ligand/receptor interactions (?)

Commercial softwares include this descriptor as 'drug like'. MOE has a
default value of 5 rotatable bonds. MSI' Cerius2 lists the # of rotatable
bonds in the same structural subset  of the descriptor table than the
rule-of-5 descriptors, but does not propose  a default value. I don't know
about Tripos or OxMol or ... (additional informations welcome).

Here is the summary of the answers I get: (!!!! ADDITIONAL ANSWERS ARE
WELCOME !!!)

-------------------------------------
a good reference is: T. Oprea J. Comp.-Aided Mol. Design 14:251-264 (2000)
Property distribution of drug-related chemical matter. According to Opreas
analysis, 70% of drug-like compounds have between 2 and 8 rotatable bonds.

Hope this helps,
Ingo Muegge
--------------------------------------
Hi!
You might take a look at a recent paper by T. Oprea (Property Distribution
in Drug-related database, J. Comput. Aided Mol Des., 2000, 14(3):251-264)
where he describes about number of rotatable bonds (RTB) and rigid bonds
(RGB), etc.
    Hope this helps.
Asim Debnath
---------------------------------------
See Bohm's paper, "The Development of a simple empirical scoring
function to estimate the binding constant for a protein-ligand complex
of known three-dimensional structure" Journal of Computer-Aided
Molecular Design, Vol 8, p 243-256 (1994) in which he finds a cost of
1.4 kJ/mol/rotatable bond.

In a similar vein, see the paper by M. D. Eldridge et. al, "Empirical
Scoring functions: I. The development of a fast empirical scoring
function to estimate the binding affinity of ligands in receptor
complexes" Journal of Computer-Aided Molecular Design, Vol 11 p. 425-445
(1997) where a slightly larger coefficient for a slightly different
functional form than Bohm's is found.
Kristy Mardis,

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> Commercial softwares include this descriptor as 'drug like'. MOE has a
> default value of 5 rotatable bonds. MSI' Cerius2 lists the # 
> of rotatable
> bonds in the same structural subset  of the descriptor table than the
> rule-of-5 descriptors, but does not propose  a default value. 
> I don't know
> about Tripos or OxMol or ... (additional informations welcome).
> 
> Here is the summary of the answers I get: (!!!! ADDITIONAL ANSWERS ARE
> WELCOME !!!)
> 

Hi Jerome,

Tsar, from Oxford Molecular, has rotatable bond count as an optional
addition to the Lipinski descriptors. The default limit is set to 8.
Tsar also (optionally) ignores amide bonds and bonds connected to 
terminal groups, such as Methyl. Tsar calculates and displays the
descriptors and also produces a column in the spreadsheet of the
number of violations of the limits. 1 violation might be okay, 2
might be unacceptable...

Cheers,
Rob



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Dear CCL ers

Are there any review articles on the net concerning
the GW approximation or any free fortran source code
to perform this kind of calculations?
.
____________________________________

Christos S. Garoufalis
Dept. of Physics, University of Patras, Greece
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Hello,
 
         I am using MD to study the dynamics of a solvated Protein/DNA
complex with explicit waters, Na+ and Cl-.
        We know of several studies on WATER residence times near both
proteins and DNA (Wuttrich, Otting, Gueron, etc.)
        Is there any comparable research on ION experimental or
theoretical residence times for Na+, Cl- or other monovalent ions which
are coordinated with either proteins or DNA?
 
                                         Thanks,
 
                                         Linjing Yang
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 hello,
     check this review article by
      
      Aryasetiawan, F.; Gunnarsson, O.    
      The GW method.
      Reports on Progress in Physics, March 1998, vol.61, (no.3):237-312.
      Pub type:  General or Review; Theoretical or Mathematical.
      Type D 6 AB to see abstract.

 best wishes
  -niranjan

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On Thu, 25 May 2000, garoufal wrote:

> Dear CCL ers
> 
> Are there any review articles on the net concerning
> the GW approximation or any free fortran source code
> to perform this kind of calculations?
> >.
> ____________________________________
> 
> Christos S. Garoufalis
> Dept. of Physics, University of Patras, Greece
> ____________________________________
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