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Dear all:

I am not sure if G2 or G3 or any other methods can be used to calculate the
hermodynaics properties of transition states. To my knowledge, these
integrated steps involving the geometry optimization which i am afraid might
optimize the geometries into equilibrium states instead of transition states.

Your suggestion will be very important to me.



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Dear CCL:

Sincere thanks to all who replied to my question!

Below I have printed my original email and a summary
of the responses:

Dear Sir:

         I would like to ask you about (1) recent books for Monte Carlo
 Simulation and (2) recent books and reviews for constructing an
 intermolecular potential for MD and MC.

         Thank you

         M. Masamura

        
==========================================================
  One book I would recommend to you is Understanding Molecular Simulation:
  From Algorithm to Applications by Daan Frenkel and Berend Smit (Published
  1997).  Covers MC and MD and looks at algorithms (in Fortran) as well.

Deepak.

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At 07:26 AM 10/27/00 +0800, Chungen Liu wrote:
>Dear all:
>
>I am not sure if G2 or G3 or any other methods can be used to calculate the
>hermodynaics properties of transition states. To my knowledge, these
>integrated steps involving the geometry optimization which i am afraid might
>optimize the geometries into equilibrium states instead of transition states.
>

Yes, you can, by using the opt=ts keyword.  However, since these methods
were optimized for equilibrium states, they have questionable accuracy for
transition states.

Jaime Martell, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Chemistry
SUNY Potsdam
Potsdam, NY 13676
Phone: 315-267-2268
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I'm having trouble finding a transition state (using Gaussian's opt=qst2).
The problem is that the reaction involves methoxide compounds with very
nearly free methyl rotors.  As a result, I keep getting additional imaginary
frequencies from the rotation of the methyl groups, and the program stops
with an "Error termination..."   Does anyone have any tricks to use in such
situations? 

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Dear CCL,

A new release of the TINKER Molecular Modeling Package, version
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and global search that are not readily available elsewhere.

TINKER version 3.8 contains the following new features and updates
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(3) a new nucleic acid building module for generating DNA or RNA
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literature variants, (6) Ewald summation for polarizable multipole
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functions, diffusion constants and power spectra from MD simulations.

TINKER is distributed with full source code, a User's Guide, and
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Prebuilt executables limited to a maximum of 10000 atoms are also
provided for Linux, Windows, and Macintosh.

Please see the web site above for further information. Comments,
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I have seen excellent results for Peterssons CBS-QB3 in applications to
transition structure energies (to be published). For the method, see J.
Chem. Phys. 110, 2822 (1999). This now is a(nother) black box procedure
in Gaussian98. DFT of course does a good job for TS geometries and the
S^^2 dependent correction term in the energy extrapolation apparently
ameliorates the situation for a (more or less single reference)
description of breaking bonds. 

Technically, use opt=TS for transition structure optimizations. 

Regards, 
Max

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>
>I am not sure if G2 or G3 or any other methods can be used to calculate the
>hermodynaics properties of transition states. To my knowledge, these
>integrated steps involving the geometry optimization which i am afraid might
>optimize the geometries into equilibrium states instead of transition states.
>
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Dear CCl,

Is it possible to optimize dimeric structures using Gaussian?
Any pointers, references, etc. would be very helpful.

I will summarize to the list.

Thank you,

Dr. Frank Devlin.




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Frank,
	What kind of dimeric structures are you interested in calculating?
With symmetry constraints?

Regards,
David Power
Department of Chemistry
University of North Texas
Nt Station, Box 305070
Denton, Texas 76203-5070
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Frank J. Devlin wrote:

> 
> Dear CCl,
> 
> Is it possible to optimize dimeric structures using Gaussian?
> Any pointers, references, etc. would be very helpful.
> 
> I will summarize to the list.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Dr. Frank Devlin.
> 
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Hi Trevor,

Consider dimethylsulfoxide (DMSO).  It is known experimentally 
that DMSO forms dimers in solution i.e. IR bands for dimer can 
be observed.  Now I would like to model the dimer system to 
determine the structure that exists in solution. 

Is it like this for example

            CH3    O   CH3
               \  / \ /
                S    S
               /  \ / \
             CH3   O   CH3

or are the DMSO molecules oriented in some other way?

So, I want to optimize the geometries of likley dimer 
structures and calculate their IR spectra.

Regards,

Frank.





On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, TREVOR D POWER wrote:

> Frank,
> 	What kind of dimeric structures are you interested in calculating?
> With symmetry constraints?
> 
> Regards,
> David Power
> Department of Chemistry
> University of North Texas
> Nt Station, Box 305070
> Denton, Texas 76203-5070
> tdp0006@unt.edu
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Frank J. Devlin wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Dear CCl,
> > 
> > Is it possible to optimize dimeric structures using Gaussian?
> > Any pointers, references, etc. would be very helpful.
> > 
> > I will summarize to the list.
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Dr. Frank Devlin.
> > 
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> 


