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Hi Folks!

Anybody know a web site with links for free molecular modeling
software's (for linux)?.
Thanks a lot!,... I will summarize the answers.

Danilo Gonzalez
University of Santiago de Chile
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> 
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Lars Packschies wrote:
> 
>> Dear CCLers,
>> 
>> I'm trying to compile g98.A7 on a Redhat 7.0 (ok, not the best 
choice). 
>> PGF77 ist working fine (as far I coud see). But when it comes to
>> build/link l402, I get an error. The text is attached. 
>> 
>> Is this a RH7-specific problem which means to install a different
>> distribution ? 
>> It wouldn't surprise me anayway... Is anybody out there who compiled
>> g98.A7 on a RH7 PIII-box ?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Lars
>> 
>> 
> 
> Hi!,
> just delete bd0402.o in bsd/i386.make line:
>        $(RUNF77) $(FFLAGS) -o $*.exe m$*.o $(EXTOBJ) $*.a bd0402.o
> $(EXTRAS) $(GAULIB) $(LIBS)
> 
> Apparently the RH 7.0 linker does not need the block data outside of 
a
> library file. I presume the same problem arise in l609 and l809.
> 
> Rafael
> -- 
> Dr. Rafael R. Pappalardo
> Dept. Quimica Fisica, Fac. de Quimica, Univ. de Sevilla. 
41012-Sevilla
> (Spain)
> e-mail: rafapa@simulux.us.es
> 

I could compile g98 on RH7.0. However, the executables do not work 
properly and generate a core file. Here is some information obtained 
with the PG debugger, in case somebody has some hints:

pgdbg[2322]: Stab entry ignored
                Stab Type: N_LSYM
                Stab: long long int:t(0,6
)=@s64;r(0,6);01000000000000000000000;0777777777777777777777;
                Source: init.c
pgdbg[2150]: Stab entry ignored
                Stab Type: N_LSYM
                Stab: __fsid_t:t(3,30)=(3,31)=s8__val:(3,32)=ar(3,33
)=r(3,33);0000000000000;0037777777777;;0;1;(0,1),0,64;;
                Source: init.c
pgdbg[1323]: Stab entry ignored
                Stab Type: N_FUN
                Stab: 
                Source: ../../gcc/libgcc2.c
Symbol table built: ./g98
NOTE: Can't find main function compiled -g
Loaded: ./g98



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> -------- Original Message --------
> From: "Familia Esguerra Neira" <esguerra@mentecolectiva.com>
> Subject: CCL:Short Budget
> To: chemistry@ccl.net
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> 
> I would like to ask for your advice on buying a PC for running gaussian 98
> and gamess-us jobs under Slackware Linux 7.1. My budget is U$4000 and I
> have been looking at Dell computers for the fastest machine I can get with
> this money.

.... rest deleted ....


I'm running Guassian-98 and GAMESS-US (also GAMESS-UK). I'm using athlon 
750's that behave like intel's running at 1.15 times the clock speed. 
Price/performance dictatest that I use athlon's. By the way, I've been 
using Debian very successfully with these software packages.

Art Edwards


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Hi,

FIC is now shipping their first motherboard supporting the DDR memory technology
and the Socket A Athlon and Duron processors.  It will support older and newer
Athlons with 266MHz FSB. The AD11 supports up to 1GB of PC1600 or 2100 DDR SDRAM
via two DIMM slots. The AD11 also features; AGP 4X, ATA 100 and integrated audio.
The price is about $200. That is a new product, and I have no news about the
benchmarks of its tests.

DDR memory shoud be very quick as  r/wr functions are performed in another way from
SDRAM's. The 1.2 GHz Athlon is about $ 280 and mauch cheaper than PIII or P4 ....
and Athlons usually have higher performance about 20 %. Espetially in floating
point intensive calculations.

Here is only my opinion, but the price/performance for Athlons is better. The save
money you can use in obtaining good SCSI system if presume high HDD usage during
calculations.

good luch
Arturas Z.



Yubo Fan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I prefer a dual pentium III 933MHz with 1GB SDRAM (I don't think PC800 RDRAM is
> much faster than PC133  SDRAM and the bus speed of PIII/933 is 133 MHz). I list
> the prices of the most important components for your calculations.
>
> 2 PIII/933 $500
> 1GB SDRAM(4x256MB) $450
> MSI 694D VIA Dual Socket 370 motherboard $140
> 40GB ATA100 Hard Drive (7200 rpm) < $150
>
> others: monitor, video card, network card
> housing, mouse and keyboard
>
> So, you can build two dual PIII/933 w/1GB memory Linux machine as I suggest. Of
> course, you just need one monitor for them. You can remote-control them when
> you run QM jobs on them. Remember, this type of computer is very good for DFT
> calculation. Don't try POST-SCF calculations (ie CCSD) on them, or you will be
> very disappointed.
>



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On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 10:15:36PM +0100, Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de's all...
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: "Familia Esguerra Neira" <esguerra@mentecolectiva.com>
> Subject: CCL:Short Budget
> To: chemistry@ccl.net
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> 
> I would like to ask for your advice on buying a PC for running gaussian 98
> and gamess-us jobs under Slackware Linux 7.1. My budget is U$4000 and I
> have been looking at Dell computers for the fastest machine I can get with
> this money.
> 
> I am undecided on whether to buy a dual pentium III 933MHz or a single
> pentium IV 1.5 GHz processor both with 1Gb PC800 RDRAM; if any of you out
> there has any information as to which of this two options would work
> better, or other suggestion on how to invest my money in order to obtain
> the fastest performing machine I would greatly appreciate it.

Remember, G98 thrashes cache and so needs high speed bandwidth to ram. All my
tests have shown that the Thunderbird 750 is the best value for the money with
its 133MHz bus for the jobs we're doing. If you are doing smaller molecules,
they might fit in L2 cache, especially on the larger cache on P3's. However,
without benchmarking your exact jobs its hard to tell.  The extra money for
Thunderbirds at higher speed in my tests have indicated that its not worth the
money (even when extra cabinet space/network infrastructure is included in the
cost, along with cost of mainboard, ram, etc). For the $ in fact, few things
are as efficient in terms of Mhz speed vs speed of calculation as my
Celeron450 for G98 stuff that we're working on - only the Tbird 700 and 750
are as 'efficient' per Mhz as the Celeron. The cpu sits idle, basically,
wait stating to death, while ram fetches the next hunk of data. Need
a really fast bus. This is why 133Mhz bus dual CPU boards dont hold high
hopes for me for what we're doing. I have yet to get back results from
DDR tests for comparison.

/kc

 


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Dear CCLers,

     Does anyone know any "FAST" cluster methods which can divide a
paramets matrix (such as RMSDs, Similarities) into groups of given number?
Any advice will be appreciated.

     Thanks a lot.

     Zhijie Liu



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Hi, Doree,

Yes -- XCluster, (part of MacroModel) which you already have. :-)

We print out something we call the "clustering map" which contains
the same info as the dendrogram, but in a different format. (In
geometric terms, I believe it's the "dual".)

The "Dfile" method of XCluster takes the distance matrix from
a file, rather than computing it from an ensemble of conformations.
In this way, it can be used on arbitrary preprocessed data.

-P.

On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Doree F Sitkoff wrote:

> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:48:51 -0500
> From: Doree F Sitkoff <doree.sitkoff@bms.com>
> To: chemistry@ccl.net
> Cc: Doree F Sitkoff <doree.sitkoff@bms.com>
> Subject: CCL:software to compute dendrograms from distance matrices
> 
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Does anyone know of software (PC or UNIX-based) that can take a distance
> matrix as input, perform clustering and display back results as a dendrogram
> - of high enough quality that it could be used for poster or publication
> purposes?
> 
> I have investigated SAS/JMP however it appears that it cannot take a
> distance matrix as input - it must calculate the matrix within the program.
> 
> MINITAB does appear to be able to do this, however I am wondering what other
> options we might have.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Doree
> ---
> Doree Sitkoff, PhD
> Research Investigator
> Bristol-Myers Squibb, PRI
> doree.sitkoff@bms.com

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Check out the "Scientific Applications on Linux"

http://search.KachinaTech.COM/Z/2/index.shtml

Hope you find something thats helps you.

Edgar

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art' wrote:

> Hi,
>
> FIC is now shipping their first motherboard supporting the DDR memory technology
> and the Socket A Athlon and Duron processors.  It will support older and newer
> Athlons with 266MHz FSB. The AD11 supports up to 1GB of PC1600 or 2100 DDR SDRAM
> via two DIMM slots. The AD11 also features; AGP 4X, ATA 100 and integrated audio.
> The price is about $200. That is a new product, and I have no news about the
> benchmarks of its tests.
>

I don't think DDR memory is much faster than PC133 SDRAM. You can find the comparison
data on the homepage of www.amd.com. CPU is always the most important for
calculations.

>
> DDR memory shoud be very quick as  r/wr functions are performed in another way from
> SDRAM's. The 1.2 GHz Athlon is about $ 280 and mauch cheaper than PIII or P4 ....
> and Athlons usually have higher performance about 20 %. Espetially in floating
> point intensive calculations.
>

I agree Athlon is faster and cheaper than PIII but there isn't dual processor
supported motherboard available now. Maybe two months later, this type of motherboard
is available commercially. Double speed is always better than 20% faster.

>
> Here is only my opinion, but the price/performance for Athlons is better. The save
> money you can use in obtaining good SCSI system if presume high HDD usage during
> calculations.
>

SCSI hard drive is nearly useless for DFT calculations, I think. PC is not good for
POST-SCF calculations. So, you shouldn't waste money on SCSI system. Spend your fund
on CPUs and memory.

>
> good luch
> Arturas Z.
>
> Yubo Fan wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I prefer a dual pentium III 933MHz with 1GB SDRAM (I don't think PC800 RDRAM is
> > much faster than PC133  SDRAM and the bus speed of PIII/933 is 133 MHz). I list
> > the prices of the most important components for your calculations.
> >
> > 2 PIII/933 $500
> > 1GB SDRAM(4x256MB) $450
> > MSI 694D VIA Dual Socket 370 motherboard $140
> > 40GB ATA100 Hard Drive (7200 rpm) < $150
> >
> > others: monitor, video card, network card
> > housing, mouse and keyboard
> >
> > So, you can build two dual PIII/933 w/1GB memory Linux machine as I suggest. Of
> > course, you just need one monitor for them. You can remote-control them when
> > you run QM jobs on them. Remember, this type of computer is very good for DFT
> > calculation. Don't try POST-SCF calculations (ie CCSD) on them, or you will be
> > very disappointed.
> >

--
============================================================
Yubo Fan                   Email: yubofan@mail.chem.tamu.edu
Department of Chemistry    Tel:   1-979-845-7222
Texas A&M University
College Station, TX 77843
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There are many programs for free and to buy listed at 

www.rcsb.org, look at software.

SM


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Hi Guys:

We are looking for a software package for doing Hansch type QSAR. We want to
provide the input data as an SD file with the structures and the activity
data. We want to identify the scaffold by picking atoms in one molecule, the
program should be able to identify the substituents and calculate their
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Hello CCLers,

could anybody give me - for educational purposes - the sentence Dirac - I think
- said about that "in principle one can calculate the whole chemistry" - if
possible in German - and where and when he stated this?

Thank you very much in advance

Wibke Sudholt
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Hello,
 
 Does anyone have any all electron (NOT psueodpotential) basis sets optimised for  GaAs, GaP and ZnS 
 suitable for use in CRYSTAL98 calculations?
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 I will summarise answers



