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Dear CCLers,

I did linear correlation graph Expt. vs calculated B.E. for
Enzyme-Substrate interactions. But I do need to compute  (from my
correlation plot) values of r**2, cross-validated r**2 (sometimes called
q**2), F value, p value, etc., which would reveal  the statistical
quality of my linear regression. I would appreciate any suggessions
about how to generate these various statistical parameters.

Thanks in advance,
Sincerely,
D.Sivanesan

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Dear CCLers,
<p>I did linear correlation graph Expt. vs calculated B.E. for Enzyme-Substrate
interactions. But I do need to compute&nbsp; (from my correlation plot)
values of r**2, cross-validated r**2 (sometimes called q**2), F value,
p value, etc., which would reveal&nbsp; the statistical quality of my linear
regression. I would appreciate any suggessions about how to generate these
various statistical parameters.
<p>Thanks in advance,
<br>Sincerely,
<br>D.Sivanesan
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Dear CCl

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PyMOL v0.56 has been released http://pymol.sourceforge.net .

An illustrated manual is available on the web page, and the program is
now considered late beta-test quality. 

PyMOL is a full-featured molecular graphics and animation program, and
will eventually support building and molecular modeling. PyMOL lays the
groundwork for a completely free and open-source replacement for
packages such as Grasp, Molscript/Raster3D, O, Midas, Insight II,
Cerius2, Sybyl, and Quanta. Why pay MSI or Tripos for expensive tools if
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PyMOL has most of the visualization features you would expect for maps
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PyMOL is an optimal solution for generating PowerPoint figures on your
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Although there are other similar efforts underway (Birdwash, CCP4-3d,
MolKit, etc.), PyMOL is currently ahead of the other efforts in terms of
visualization capabilities and accessibility to non-developers under
Windows. Right now, PyMOL is the most powerful molecular graphics
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Unlike RasMOL, PyMOL is targeted towards the needs of professionals, not
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Python lovers will be happy to learn that PyMOL uses an embedded Python
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A Windows installer can be found at: 

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and requires Python 152 

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Source code for unix can be obtained and compiled through the publicly
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Please see the web site for additional information: 

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Hi CCLers:

    I have a question about the negative frequency in the frequency =
calculation.
For larger or complicate molecule, the geometry optimization usually can =
not reach the minimum point, but the saddle point with some negative and =
small vibration frequencies. To adapt and try to reoptimize the molecule =
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> ATOM      1  N   GLN A   1      63.870 -23.035  -4.001  1.00  2.09
> MCP1 N  
> ATOM      2  CA  GLN A   1      65.000 -22.112  -3.695  1.00  1.89
> MCP1 C  
> ATOM      3  C   GLN A   1      64.534 -20.647  -3.880  1.00  1.67
> MCP1 C  
> 
> my question is there are 2 Nitrogens, 5 carbons etc.,..in Glutamine
> residue. how would i know which corresponds to what?

Each atom has a unique name, for example, the "CA" is the alpha
carbon, and "C" is the carbon in the peptide group. Check the PDB
specification for details.

However, some programs use their own naming rules instead of those
defined by the PDB, including widespread codes such as CHARMM and
XPlor. And for hydrogens, the chaos is almost perfect. Moreover, not
all programs respect the rules for atom name justification (right
justification for the element symbol, left justification for the
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Konrad Hinsen wrote:

> > ATOM      1  N   GLN A   1      63.870 -23.035  -4.001  1.00  2.09
> > MCP1 N  
> > ATOM      2  CA  GLN A   1      65.000 -22.112  -3.695  1.00  1.89
> > MCP1 C  
> > ATOM      3  C   GLN A   1      64.534 -20.647  -3.880  1.00  1.67
> > MCP1 C  
> > 
> > my question is there are 2 Nitrogens, 5 carbons etc.,..in Glutamine
> > residue. how would i know which corresponds to what?
> 
> Each atom has a unique name, for example, the "CA" is the alpha
> carbon, and "C" is the carbon in the peptide group. Check the PDB
> specification for details.
> 
> However, some programs use their own naming rules instead of those
> defined by the PDB, including widespread codes such as CHARMM and
> XPlor. And for hydrogens, the chaos is almost perfect. Moreover, not
> all programs respect the rules for atom name justification (right
> justification for the element symbol, left justification for the
> unique identification part). Alpha-carbons thus are frequently
> labelled as calcium atoms.

CHARMM follows the same alpha-amino acid atom name conventions as PDB
wrt. heavy atoms for the most part; the exceptions are few (C terminal O
atoms, CD vs. CD1 for ILE).  The only other major issue for CHARMM is
for the HIS residue; CHARMM has 3 separate residues (HSD, HSE, HSC)
depending on the protonation state.

PDB2 format includes the element symbol, so that CA should be recognized
as a carbon atom, if the newer format is used.

Hydrogen naming is systematic in most cases, just different; it's so
difficult to deal with the 1:1 correspondence of H atom names that it's
usually not worth the effort.

If you want to see real chaos, try looking at the heavy atom labels that
come from data extracted from the Cambridge small molecule database,
e.g. for saccharides.

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Dear CCLers,

A possible challenge of the day ...  Getting correct [acyclic, of
course] torsion angles in conjugated systems...

If I have missed the general solution to this quandry please forgive the
band width, and let me know.

There have been many methodologies put forth for computing [gas phase]
molecular geometries.  Some are expensive, and some are quite
inexpensive.  They all have parameters [To CI or not To CI, basis set,
USS,UPP, Beta, exponents, etc.]
Some get bond lengths and bond angles correct.  At nearly all levels of
theory it seems difficult to get torsion angles dependably at an
acceptable, approximate, affordable cost.  B3LYP can be an acceptable
fall back when all the semiempirical methods fail, and they seem to in
my experience over >25  years at doing chromophore design.. But B3LYP
usually gets things too flat, i.e.Ph-N=N-Ph, and when there is the
possibility of internal hydrogen bonding, even between SP2 N and SP2 or
Sp3 O, and a H attached to an aromatic ring.  MP2 is only slightly
better.

Some of the best results I have seen were done > 25 years ago when
Birner [Leipzig, I think] simply added to lowly INDO all the 2-center
<pq|rs> computed over Slater functions.....

Yes there has been a lot of progress, but I still see opportunities.

Comments?

John McKelvey



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Hi,
 thankyou for answering the previous query. Iam trying to do Molecular dynamics
simulation of some protein. I can get the starting structure from the PDB
file (the cartesian coordinates). But how can i find the box size for that
structure for MD?

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