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Schrodinger do a pKa calc that is a QSAR using QM results. There was a good paper in J.Amer.Chem.Soc last year on ab initio calcs to predict pka. It's a difficult area as the slightest error will give erroneous results.

Mr James J Robinson B.Sc. (HONS) MRSC M.Phil
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Hello,
I am wondering if anyone would know of any programs that can calculate
pKa's quantum mechanically.  I think ChemCad calculates them
semi-empirically, but I would prefer a QM method.
                            Thank you,
                                 Jean

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Check the MIME types of your webserver. Sounds like chemical/x-xyz is
not registered correctly.

Regards,

Ingo

> Dear CCL
> 
> I have been trying to put some *.xyz on my web site. they are supposed to
> show vibrational motion in molecules using the chime plugin. although pdb
> files work perfectly ,there is always an error reported when I try to look
> at the vibrations online. they work perfectly well on my local machine
> though. I sent one of the file + the chime script to a friend to see if she
> could get it to work via her isp but it didn't. Am I missing something
> obvious? Can someone help me to get these files to work?
> I've attached a simple xyz file to this message and the script that I've
> been using is:
> 
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> 
> Roma
> 
> Roma E. Oakes
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Dear Sir:
When I using IPCM in Gaussian98 to do single point calculation 
,I find that the convergence of can not be reached.
"the Largest difference in charges from previous cycle" 
do not change.My model is a hydrigen bond system.I use DFT method.

what hint can you give me to solve the problem?
thank you

chenhui
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Subject: SUMMARY: A couple of questions about AIM analysis
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Hello all,

I thank everyone for answering my question on AIM analysis.  I was asked by
some to post a summary, and so I am doing so.  It would appear that the
overall concensus is that the Gaussian implementation of AIM is not the most
robust and that more specialized software is more appropriate (i.e., MORPHY,
AIM2000, etc.).

*************************
First, my original question:

I have implemented AIM analysis from with Gaussian98W successfully many
times.  The keywords I use are: SCF(conver=8) density=current
AIM=bondorders.  The level of theory in all cases has been
RB3LYP/6-311+G(2d,p) which is the same level of theory as the other
calculations involving these molecules (e.g., minimizations, frequency
calculations, NBO analysis).

However,when attempting the same calculation on one particular structure,
the calculation fails.  I am given the information below:

 WARNING: RMS ERROR HAS INCREASED
 WARNING: RMS ERROR HAS INCREASED
 WARNING: RMS ERROR HAS INCREASED
 WARNING: RMS ERROR HAS INCREASED
 NEWTON STEP FAILED FOR SURFACE SHEET  16
 Error termination via Lnk1e in C:\G98W\l609.exe.
 Job cpu time:  0 days  4 hours 16 minutes  8.0 seconds.
 File lengths (MBytes):  RWF=   48 Int=    0 D2E=    0 Chk=    2 Scr=    1

The Gaussian User's Reference suggests that the AIM code will fail at times
and cites the particular instance when the message NEWTON-RAPHSON STEP
FAILED is due to a molecule with rings that has an unusual topology (which
may well be the case).  Is there any cure for this problem?  Am I able to
tweak something to get the calculation to go to completion?


********************

Don't know how to force gaussian to work round difficult topologies, but our
in
house code (MORPHY) is available for a modest fee and is it is easy adapt
the
internal settings to get round most problems [it will also look at the
topology
of the laplacian, and elf, and soon other fields like lol]. If you want any
more
info let me know.

Richard Baders code (AIMPAC) is freely available and should be flexible
enough
to do what you want but I don't have any direct experience of it.

regards

noj Malcom

*******************

We have done quite a bit of AIM recently but not using Gaussian.  There have
been several comments about the G98 AIM package that suggest that it is not
robust, and will fail in cases like yours where there is extreme curvature
in the atomic surfaces.  I have heard of no "fix" for these cases.  I
believe that the G98 AIM package is essentially a re-packaging of the
original AIMPAC bundle of Bader et al.

We have found that the AIM2000 package has given us very good results,
although the MORPHY program is also claimed to be very good and may in fact
be superior if its long-awaited next version ever comes out.  In several
cases, atomic integrations attempted with the PROAIMV program from the
AIMPAC bundle failed no matter what parameters we tried, but integration
with AIM2000 succeeded.  We have also found it much easier to enhance the
accuracy of integrals with AIM2000.

Good Luck.

Phil Hultin

*****************

The Gaussian implementation of AIM is not reknowned for its robustness.
Their love affair ended a long time ago and the aim in gaussian is an old
and not maintained version.
I suggest using aim2000 or aimpac or morphy from a gaussian output wfn file.


Yours,

Alexandre HOCQUET

***************

   There is no known cure for this error.  The program is attempting
to fit a surface so it can do integration within the various regions.
There are a number of topological features which cause it problems.
The code is doing a first order search and this is obviously not high
enough order but no one has taken on the task of implementing a
higher order search, linear search etc, similar to what is done for
difficult geometry optimization.

   There are a couple of bond order estimates in the NBO package.  If
you use

#  ...  POP=NBORead

and then after the structure add lines,

 $NBO BNDIDX NLMO $END

you will see these printed out.

   If you need an estimate of the bond order better than something like
Mulliken that is my recommendation.

  Douglas J. Fox
  Technical Support
  Gaussian, Inc.

*******************

Dear Professor Gary Breton,

Gaussian has a multiple of optimization and minimization methods.

I think you are using the most default method, but I think there are other
methods available, like QC, GDIIS, NODIIS, etc.

I am not exactly sure where the error occurred because you cut off the
output a little too short, but there are other methods.

I am curious. Why do you use SCF(COVER=8)? The default I think is 7. Is
there are a need for the extra accuracy in the SCF cycle for AIM
calculations?

Yours,
Ha Yeon Cheong



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Dear CCLers

We would like to use EGO Molecular Dynamics program, but we are unable to
compile the program for the Windows platform: there is someone that it has
already compiled this software for Win-PCs?

Thanks in advance


Giulio Vistoli


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Hi there,

I am looking for software, preferably freeware, to plot 3D electron
density or electron density difference maps for large molecules (appr.
500 atoms). The program may run on a unix workstation or on pc.

We have our own programs to calculate the value of the electron density
(difference) in the grid points of a given 3D lattice. Therefore, we can
generate the results in any format needed, but we do need to know what
the input format is for a given plotting program, so therefore we would
prefer a program that comes along with its source code or sample input
files. We also welcome programs for converting one 3D data set into
another.

I already donwloaded Molden, but it seems a bit slow when I am looking
at our molecular system interactively.


Friendly greetings,

Dr. Anik Peeters
University of Antwerp
anik@uia.ac.be



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Hello again --

It occurred to me that re-posting the abstract submission procedure
might be a good idea but, while fishing it out of my "sent-mail" folder,
I accidently sent the last message before it was finished.  Sorry.

> Please submit your abstract through the OASYS facility.  Point your
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> From: Anik Peeters [mailto:anik@uia.ua.ac.be]

> I am looking for software, preferably freeware, to plot 3D electron
> density or electron density difference maps for large molecules (appr.
> 500 atoms). The program may run on a unix workstation or on pc.

PyMOL is ideal for this kind of project, where you might be able to do a
bit of development in order to enable efficient transfer of your 3D
dataset into the visualization program.

http://www.pymol.org

> We have our own programs to calculate the value of the 
> electron density
> (difference) in the grid points of a given 3D lattice. 
> Therefore, we can
> generate the results in any format needed, but we do need to know what
> the input format is for a given plotting program, so 
> therefore we would
> prefer a program that comes along with its source code or sample input
> files. We also welcome programs for converting one 3D data set into
> another.
> 

PyMOL can read XPLOR and CCP4 format electron density files, but you can
also create a 3D volume "brick" from within Python (using the
high-perfomance "Numeric" package) to display volume data like electron
density.  Mesh isosurfaces are supported by the current binary release,
and the impending release supports solid isosurfaces too (source code in
current CVS).  These are great for MO diagrams and/or electrostatic
potential plots.

Python is rapidly becoming a standard programming language for
computational chemistry, so I encourage everyone to learn it.  PyMOL's
capabilities provide you with a specific reward for doing so.

> I already donwloaded Molden, but it seems a bit slow when I am looking
> at our molecular system interactively.

Provided that you can access a graphics accelerator card, PyMOL's
performance meets or beats any other package, and it is cross-platform
(Windows, Unix, MacOSX).  It can display any 3D map that will fit into
available RAM.  

And now for the best part...

PyMOL is unrestricted open-source software (even for commercial usage),
meaning that it is free, modifiable, and redistributable in modified
form.  If you find PyMOL useful, then you are asked to help advance the
project through development, documentation, or  funding.  PyMOL's users
(hundreds of scientists distributed around the globe) are working
together to make it a better and better package each and every day.
Everyone is welcome to join the effort.

The goal of PyMOL is to create the "Linux" of molecular modeling: a
Python environment, (including PyMOL and other powerful packages), that
is free, open-source, interoperable, and suited for an unlimited variety
of tasks in computational chemistry and structural biology.

- Warren
PyMOL Founder 

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Warren L. DeLano, Ph.D.



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Dear Anik,

Pretty much all the modeling packages will render surfaces.

ArgusLab (http://www.arguslab.com)  will do what you ask.  

Currently ArgusLab recognizes two file formats for surface data: ArgusLab's own 
binary format and the Gaussian cube file format.  If you can get the data into 
a cube file format, then you can import it into ArgusLab and do pretty much 
anything you like with it: combine it with other surface data, differences, 
maps, etc.

Also, ArgusLab's contouring is very fast.  For Gaussian cube files, ArgusLab 
will cache them so that you only have to read them in one time.

The ArgusLab format is not proprietary and if you like we can confer off-line 
if you want the format.  Reading ArgusLab's binary cube files is much faster 
than formatted reads of Gaussian cube files.

ArgusLab is not free, but its very inexpensive for academic's.  It runs on 
Windows based PCs.

Cheers,

Mark Thompson, PhD
Planaria Software
Seattle, WA




> Hi there,
> 
> I am looking for software, preferably freeware, to plot 3D electron
> density or electron density difference maps for large molecules (appr.
> 500 atoms). The program may run on a unix workstation or on pc.
> 
> We have our own programs to calculate the value of the electron density
> (difference) in the grid points of a given 3D lattice. Therefore, we can
> generate the results in any format needed, but we do need to know what
> the input format is for a given plotting program, so therefore we would
> prefer a program that comes along with its source code or sample input
> files. We also welcome programs for converting one 3D data set into
> another.
> 
> I already donwloaded Molden, but it seems a bit slow when I am looking
> at our molecular system interactively.
> 
> 
> Friendly greetings,
> 
> Dr. Anik Peeters
> University of Antwerp
> anik@uia.ac.be
> 
> 
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Planaria Software
Seattle, WA

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Hi All!

My question to you fellow CClers is as follows:

I need to analyze (computationally) the conformations of various
nucleosides, and ribonucleosides having modifications in the furanose and
the heterocyclic base regions. Are you aware of any commercial and/ or
shareware package that can achieve this. I will need to calculate atomic
charges, assign proper atom properties and then perform molecular mechanics
and dynamics simulations to assign determine the likely conformation of the
molecules under study. A program that has the requisite force fields ( any
suggestions for the proper force field to use would be appreciated), and
should have reasonable cost and hardware requirements ( PC compatibility
would be best).

I look forward to the usual helpful responses and thank all respondents in
advance.

Sincerely,

Prasad Dande





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Dear Colleagues --

Something appears to have gone wrong!

I thought that "Tautomerism and Protonation States in the Context of
Virtual Screening" would be an excellent topic for a Symposium at the
Boston ACS meeting and I expected that there would be numerous abstracts
submitted.  Thus, I was very surprised and disappointed when, upon
returning to the US, I checked the ACS web-site and found that only one
abstract (Keith & Catherine Davies') has been submitted!!  I was about
to contact the Chair of the COMP Division and suggest cancelling this
Symposium but then noticed an e-mail from Yvonne Martin saying:

> I was surprised to see that my talk was not scheduled. 
> Did I forget to send in the abstract?

Given that Yvonne Martin is not the sort of person who forgets about
submitting abstracts and given that the only abstract received was
submitted back in February (before most people get around to it), it
appears that there *may* have been some temporary problem with the
abstract submission process. I submitted a test abstract just moments
ago and it worked perfectly.

IF YOU WANT TO PRESENT A PAPER AT THE AFOREMENTIONED SYMPOSIUM, PLEASE
SUBMIT OR RESUBMIT YOUR ABSTRACT NOW!!!  THE ACS DEADLINE (not mine!) IS
APRIL 1ST.
It might also be a good idea to send me a copy of your abstract.


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Just wondering if someone could suggest to me how to properly restrain
torsion angles in AutoDock. I am trying to dock flexible ligands to a
protein, using LGA, while applying restraints to allow only a small amount
of flexibility in the torsion angles. When I use the command "hardtorcon",
the program doesn't seem to apply a barrier at all. With "gausstorcon" and
a barrier of 100 or more, there is a little flexibility but not enough.
When I lowered the barrier to 10, it seemed to work at first, but later on
I noticed a lot of conformations produced with torsional angles far
outside the range. What are the units of this barrier and how/when is it
applied in the calculation? Is this energy added to the internal energy of
the ligand, or does it not appear in the final docked energies at all? And
how can I get the program to show this penalty ("showtorpen" doesn't seem
to work?)

Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks and best regards,

Maggie Johnson



Margaret A. Johnson
Department of Chemistry
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, B.C.
Canada
Tel: (604) 291-5650
Email: johnsont@sfu.ca



