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Hello,

do you know this URL:

http://neon.chem.ox.uk/vrchemistry/labintro/newdefault.html

they have a very nice VSEPR tutorial and practical. If I
remember correctly, it is a Java code.
Even if you are not interested in web pages, you could try
to ask for the code.

They also have a very interesting symmetry practical.
Hope this helps.

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Dear CCL'ers
I encountered a problem in calculation of NMR chemical
shift of a ferrocenyl compound:
First I have optimized the geometry of the molecule and
calculated the Hessian matrix.
Second I made a single point calculation with HF method
and the basis set 6-311+G(2d,p).
Then I wanted to calculate the NMR-shift.(see example below)
-------------------------------------------------------
%NProc=4
%Mem=2GB
%Chk=fc05d.chk
# HF/6-311+G(2d,p) SP Test
# iop(6/7=3) gfinput  scfcyc=900

Ferrocenyl-(SiMe2)6-Ph,
NMR HF/6-311+G(2d,p)

   0  1
   Fe                -0.202906    0.111404    7.470024
   H                  0.083021    0.820915   10.194050
   C                 -0.654386    0.704438    9.410643
   C                 -1.354170   -0.497869    9.090560
   H                 -0.700081    2.731516    8.453903
....etc. coordinates of the molecule

--Link1--
%NProc=4
%Mem=2GB
%Chk=fc05d.chk
# HF/6-311+G(2d,p)  NMR Geom=AllCheck Guess=Read Test scfcyc=900

Ferrocenyl-(SiMe2)6-Ph,
NMR HF/6-311+G(2d,p)

0  1

-------------------------------------------------------

The calculated NMR-shift for iron is nonsense.
Shifts of atoms connected directly to iron are
also wrong. Atoms which are further away
have shift values which make sense. (see examples below)
-------------------------------------------------------
Inverted reduced A of dimension  34 with in-core refinement.
  Calculating GIAO nuclear magnetic shielding tensors.
  SCF GIAO Magnetic shielding tensor (ppm):
   1  Fe   Isotropic =***********   Anisotropy =399287.5804
    XX=***********   YX=***********   ZX= 93002.8604
    XY=***********   YY=***********   ZY=***********
    XZ= 94358.4550   YZ=***********   ZZ=***********
    Eigenvalues:**********************  1669.3510
   2  H    Isotropic =    63.4665   Anisotropy =   241.8958
    XX=  -140.7531   YX=    88.9387   ZX=   -99.0583
    XY=  -131.3972   YY=   165.3069   ZY=    36.0108
    XZ=    21.4654   YZ=    72.3870   ZZ=   165.8456
    Eigenvalues:  -146.2706   111.9397   224.7303
   3  C    Isotropic =   695.5235   Anisotropy =   785.0543
    XX=   121.6982   YX=   699.4741   ZX=  -566.8338
    XY=   -59.0868   YY=  1081.0732   ZY=    97.1838
    XZ=   -54.6052   YZ=   293.6058   ZZ=   883.7992
    Eigenvalues:  -103.2821   970.9596  1218.8931

....etc.

30  Si   Isotropic =   422.8279   Anisotropy =    32.8879
    XX=   397.0723   YX=    13.0645   ZX=     3.0779
    XY=     2.9391   YY=   435.9510   ZY=     8.5848
    XZ=     9.8744   YZ=     5.0853   ZZ=   435.4603
    Eigenvalues:   394.8440   428.8865   444.7531
  31  C    Isotropic =   204.6798   Anisotropy =    19.0621
    XX=   192.2924   YX=    11.0580   ZX=    -8.3426
    XY=    -7.4119   YY=   216.0632   ZY=     1.2366
    XZ=     0.1573   YZ=     6.6130   ZZ=   205.6837
    Eigenvalues:   190.8175   205.8340   217.3879
  32  H    Isotropic =    45.1076   Anisotropy =    16.0320
    XX=    38.4798   YX=    16.9477   ZX=   -16.3021
    XY=    -4.0497   YY=    48.1692   ZY=     0.3816
    XZ=    -5.8285   YZ=     6.8300   ZZ=    48.6737
    Eigenvalues:    28.6116    50.9155    55.7956
-------------------------------------------------------

What is wrong here?
I hope anybody can help me to solve this problem!

Sincerely Yours
Uwe Boehme.


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Dr. Uwe Boehme
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Technische Universitaet Bergakademie Freiberg
09596 Freiberg
Germany

e-mail: uwe.boehme@chemie.tu-freiberg.de
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Hi Olegas,
  
> In the "standard" BSSE equation (for a dimer AB):
> 
> BSSE(AB) =3D E(AB)^AB - E(A)^A - E(B)^B + [E(A')^A - E(A')^AB + E(B)^B - =
> E(B)^AB]
> 
> I've got most of the parameters, but how in G98W do I calculate E(A)^AB =
> and E(B)^AB, i.e. the energy of the monomer units in terms of the dimer =
> basis set.
  
With Gaussian, the keyword Massage has to be used for counterpoise 
corrections (assuming it's the same for G98 and G98W).  Have a look at the 
Gaussian manual: http://www.gaussian.com/00000452.htm.
There is an example there as well. However, don't believe the sentence
about counterpoise being only a crude estimate, have a look at the 
following papers to learn more about BSSE and Counterpoise:

-  F.B. van Duijneveldt, J.G.C.M. van Duijneveldt-van de Rijdt, and
   J.H. van Lenthe, Chem. Rev. 94, 1873, 1994 (on counterpoise theory)

-  S. Simon, M. Duran, J.J. Dannenberg, J. Chem. Phys. 105, 1996
   (on geometry optimizations on BSSE-corrected potential energy surfaces).

-  F.B. van Duijneveldt, "Basis Superposition Error"
   in "Molecular Interactions" S. Scheiner (ed.), Wiley (1997)

-  T. van Mourik, A.K. Wilson, K.A. Peterson, D.E. Woon, T.H. Dunning, Jr.,
   Adv. Quant. Chem. 31, 105, 1999 (showing BSSE effects on interaction
   energies, distances, and frequencies).

HTH,

Tanja
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Docking problems are small enough that
you could possibly run a single trajectory
and wait long enough to actually see a docking
occur. This is after all how simulated annealing
works. But you will waste a lot of time waiting
for this to happen ... it will be a rare event.
The easier thing to do is to run a trajectory
in reverse starting in a docked configuration. 
Hamiltonian dynamics is time-reversible so the 
undocking trjectory is simply a docking trajectory
with the signs of the momenta (or time) reversed.
This trick has been used for years.

Any number of simulation programs will probably
work for this purpose.

Richard Gillilan
MacCHESS, Cornell

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I think you mean:

http://neon.chem.ox.ac.uk/vrchemistry/vsepr/intro/vsepr_splash.html


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Hello,

do you know this URL:

http://neon.chem.ox.uk/vrchemistry/labintro/newdefault.html

they have a very nice VSEPR tutorial and practical. If I
remember correctly, it is a Java code.
Even if you are not interested in web pages, you could try
to ask for the code.

They also have a very interesting symmetry practical.
Hope this helps.

-- 

                                      ...Xav

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Hello Uwe and All!

On Fri, 24 May 2002, Uwe Boehme wrote:

> Second I made a single point calculation with HF method
> and the basis set 6-311+G(2d,p).

[...]

> The calculated NMR-shift for iron is nonsense.

I don't believe HF is a good choice for calculating NMR shifts, or much
else, for transition metals. Personally I have no experience on this
matter though, so maybe someone on the list has other comments?

Try using DFT, you might have better luck. See for example:

M. Bühl, "Density functional computations of transition metal NMR
chemical shifts: dramatic effects of Hartree-Fock exchange",
Chem. Phys. Lett. 267 (1997) 251-257

Have a nice day,
    Mikael Johansson
    University of Helsinki
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Hi Ibrahim and CCL users,

I got some answers for the FlexX Formal Charges problem. I attached the 
answers for you.

And my experiment carried out that we can set the 
flag of Assign_Formal_Charges to 0 (automatically assignment OFF) or 
1(automatically assignment ON) through the Graphic User Interface 
panel of Sybyl FlexX. Then we can assign formal charges manually in the 
ligand.mol2 file when flag is 0.

Thanks for everyone's kindly help.

     -----Mingzhu 
 
    Southern Methodist University


On Wed, 22 May 2002, Ibrahim Moustafa wrote:

>  Hello Pearl,
> 
>     I'm interested in your question. Can you forward me the answers you'll
> get?
> 
>   Thanks,
>  Ibrahim
> 
> Name         :Ibrahim M.Moustafa
> Mail address :Center for Biomolecular Science,
>               BIOMOLECULAR SCIENCE BUILDING,
>               North Haugh,St-Andrews,
>               Fife,KY16 9ST
>               Scotland,U.K.
>          Tel :+44(0)1334-467257
>       E-mail :im17@st-andrews.ac.uk
> 
> On Tue, 21 May 2002, Pearl Zheng wrote:
> 
> > Hi dear CCL users,
> > 
> > I am using sybyl FlexX to docking a small molecule to the active site of 
> > an enzyme. But the assignment of formal charges automatically by FlexX 
> > only works well in simple case. My question is how can I assign formal 
> > charge by myself. The second question is can I use Gasteiger-Huckel 
> > charges while doing FlexX?
> > 
> > All response are appreciated.
> > 
> >    ---Mingzhu
> > 
> > 
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Dear CClers,

 Could any one tell me if there are free softwares available for doing

 IR, Raman, XPS, NMR etc spectra using MNDO/PM3/AM1 theories.

Tapas

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"We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without
which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made."
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"The value of pi was first calculated by Budhayana, and he explained
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scholars have last year (1999) officially published that Budhayan’s
works dates to the 6th Century, which is long before the European
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Dear CCL,

1) How can I scan a potential energy surface along a vibrational normal
mode with Gaussian or another molecular electronic structure program
automatically ?

2) How can I increase the precision of the normal modes printed with
Gaussian ?


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-- Answer 1 --

Hi Jens,

you might try POLYRATE. It is a program
(designed by Prof. Joel Bowman and others) to
calculate vibrational frequencies and more by
going beyond the harmonic oscillator approximation.

Add the HPFREQ option to the FREQ command.
You can find a very thorough documentation of
G98 at:
http://www.gaussian.com/techinfo.htm

Stefan Fau


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>1) How can I scan a potential energy surface along a vibrational normal

I have a very crude fortran program that, when you give it the hpmodes 
output for a mode, will create a multi step g98 input file that scans (and 
computes what you want) along a mode.  It is not automatic, and it is 
rather ugly, but it seems to work for me.  I'd be happy to send you a copy 
if you'ld like.


>2) How can I increase the precision of the normal modes printed with

The hpmodes keyword will do this.

Steve Williams


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>1) How can I scan a potential energy surface along a vibrational normal

G98 claims to be able to do this using freq as an option to IRC, alas that
is not the case.  The gaussian people says that it will work in rev. B.
Please do let me know if you get an answer to this question.

Theis Ivan Soelling


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  The FREQ=HPModes option will print out the normal modes to higher
precision.

  Douglas J. Fox

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 Dear everyone:
       Here is a question that I need some examples. I wonder if the
molecular electrostatic potential based charge fitting could be done in
GAMESS-US. If so, would you please give me some examples. Thanks.


Regards,
mao



