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I believe there is a result somewhere dictating that
monomers in homodimers must be related by a simple
C2 rotation axis else you will get aggregation.

Does anyone know a proof this result or a counter example?

(closest I can think of is alpha and beta tubulin, which
are very similar, but bind back to front and so yield
an infinite strand or filament). I seem to remember
something about the aggregation of mutant (sickel-cell)
hemoglobin being a similar deal.

The symmetry axis (or more generally, elements)
generating a dimer or tetramer may or may not
be part of the symmetry of the crystal (space group
and any non-crystallographic symmetry).
So, it is not always clear if a crystallographic
contact is a physiological dimer interface or not.
You will have to look at the literature an see
what people say about your particular structure.
The necessary transformations are usually given in
the header of the PDB file, though they may be
a bit cryptic if you haven't worked
with them before.

  Richard Gillilan
  MacCHESS, Cornell



On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 04:13 PM, Atchara Wijitkosoom wrote:

> To whom it may concern,
>
> Does anybody know how to generate the dimer or tetramer? I have modeled
> an enzyme monomer and want to generate its dimer then tetramer. Do we
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Hi,

  I would be more worried about the SCF.  It shows a "spin" of
S**2 = 11.06 and 3.43 before and after spin annihiliation,
respectively.  This gives S = 2.86 and 1.42, which doesn't
make much sense (to me).

       - John Bushnell

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Hello,
	In the gaussian .log file(in linux) or .out file(in Windows),
the 5D shell is expressed as

5D 0
5D+1
5D-1
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5D-2

what's the realtion of it with

xy
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3*z^2 - r^2


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Hi,

There is a database of protein quaternary structures. Since I assume
that you modeled your monomer from an X-ray structure, you could
probably find the dimer or tetramer there and model on that.

http://pqs.ebi.ac.uk/

Otherwise, I think the CCP4 way is the shortest way to the symmetry
equivalents


Hope this helps

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> Does anybody know how to generate the dimer or tetramer? I have modeled
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Dear all,

I am actually using Gaussian 98
I am asking myself about the criteria of convergence when performing an 
optmisation with the SCRF-model where the solute/solvent boundary is 
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Dear All

Does anyone know if there has been projected a correlation like above 
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Dear CCLers:

I'd be obliged if anyone can provide me with the correct references for the nucleophilic, electrophilic, and radical Fukui reactivity indices (N_a, E_a, and R_a, respectively) as encoded in CODESSA.  I've been informed that the correct reference should be:

R. Franke, Theoretical Drug Design Methods. Elsevier, Amsterdam, 1984.

but the specific formulations (below) don't appear there.

N_a = SUMj C_jLUMO^2 / (e_LUMO + 10)

E_a = SUMi C_iHOMO^2 / (1 - e_HOMO)

R_a = SUMi SUMj C_iHOMO C_jLUMO / (e_LUMO - e_HOMO)

where the summations are performed over all atomic orbitals (i and j) at the given atom (a), C_iHOMO and C_jLUMO are the ith and jth atomic orbital coefficients for the HOMO and LUMO, and e_HOMO and e_LUMO are the HOMO and LUMO energies.

Thanks.

Steve Trohalaki 
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Dear CCLers,

Being interested in optical properties of conjugated oligomers, I
calculated electronic structure of oligophenylenevinylene radical cations
with different methods, including ROHF ZINDO.

As the chain length increases, the orbital energy of the SOMO becomes
appreciably lower than that of 1 and then 2 doubly occupied MOs, while in
shorter oligomers SOMO is the highest occupied MO. However, there are all
reasons to believe that the aspect of the SOMO (its symmetry and location
in the middle of the chain) is always correct. Furthermore, the
lowest-energy excitation, as obtained in SCI calculation, is essentially
> from this SOMO to the LUMO.

Of course, in theory MOs must not necessarily be populated by the
electrons in the order of their eigenvalues; it is the total energy that
must be minimum.  However, it is stated in the ZINDO manual that the
aufbau principle is respected for ROHF. In addition, no other method (ab
initio or semiempirical ROHF, unrestricted DFT) makes the SOMO descend
below the doubly occupied MOs.

The question is: is this behavior of ROHF ZINDO correct?

Thanks in advance to everyone who would like to reply.
Victor.
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Hi,

I'm looking for a value of the binding energy of alpha-quartz 
(Equartz- ESi-EO), but in all the papers I managed to find always 
only total energies or energy differences are quoted. So I'm 
wondering if somebody can point me at a paper which actually reports 
the binding energy. 

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From: "Nelson Fonseca" <nfonseca@dq.ua.pt>
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Experience is what you get when you don't get what you 
want.
        
                      -- Dan Stanford--


Dear all:

I have some problems in performing a Freq calculation on 
my system. I need about 1245 MWords (1Gb of memory) to 
store the integrals in direct mode, but I have only 256 Mb 
of Memory.
Can I do the calcutation in other in other form? or should 
I have to upgrade the system memory?

Thanks in advance

Nelson Fonseca

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Folks, JCICS 27, 21(1987) lists 500 or so structures with
experimental logP measurements - does anybody have this or
similar files with experimental and G-C numbers at hand?
SMILES strings or SD files would be the best option, but
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Dear cclers,

	I am studying an Imidazole catalyzed ester hydrolysis reaction.
The reaction involves the imidazole abstracting a proton from a water and
the hydroxyl ion (from water) acting as the nucleophile on the ester
carbon, resulting in an alcohol.

I have the following queries:

1) I would like to know if there is experimental data about the barrier
for this reaction in solution.

2) I found the following references but I am unable to get to these
journals;

ref.1: H. Neuvonen 1996: Ber. Bunsenges. Phys. Chem., 100, 1231.

ref.2: Y. I. Khurgin, T.N. Filatova 1973: Bull. Acad. Sci. USSR, Div.
Chem. Sci., 22, 2255.

3) I would also like to know if there are any computational studies done
on such a reaction.

I greatly appreciate any suggestions or reference material with regards to
the subject. I will be happy to summarize my responses to ccl.

Thanking you in advance,

Devi

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Dear CCL-lister,
Now I have some problem with Gaussian98 when I use it to do casscf calculation. I use the method that Wolfgang Roth provided several days ago in the CCL to solve the casscf geometry optimization problem in Gaussian98(see below). It works well in the singlet case but today I find it is not successful in the triplet case. Can anyone give some advice on this problem. 

Several days ago I put a casscf optimization problem in Gaussian98 at CCL:

when I used the Gaussian98 to do casscf geometry optimization calculation
I encounter a serious problem.At the first point of the optimization, the
wavefunction has converged to the desired state, but at the second point,
the calculation converged to a state that is much higher in energy than
the first point(several hatree). Who can tell me how to solve this problem?

Thank you in advance. 

Wang Xin
Dept Chem,Nanjing Univ 
P.R.China


