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Try ArgusLab

http://www.arguslab.com/


Jim

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> Hello.
>
> Could anyone suggest a convenient molecular builder. My task is, say, I
> have optimized geometry for water and nitric anion. Then I want to
> compose a system using their geometries with cation, anion and 10 waters.
>
> It is enough if it saves xyz file. In fact it is preferably.
>
> Any suggestions? Everything I saw either shows molecules or offer
> building but from the very scratch.
>
> Thank you all in advance.
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> Regards.
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> ---Dmitry.
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Close, David M. wrote:

> CCL'ers:
>   Someone told me I can run G98 jobs faster on my Dell 530 Workstation
> if IX use %Nproc=2 and make the following changes to the LINUX kernel
> for sharing memory.
>
> echo "67108864" >/proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
> echo "67108864" >/proc/sys/kernel/shmall
>
> only replace 67108864 with the amount of memory in your machine (in bytes)
>  Also, I know that the %Mem= should be per processor. Therefore, since I
> have 512Mb total memory and 2 processors, I should use something like
> %Mem=230Mb
>  Having done all this and also checking that the SMP kernel was running,
> I cannot get this to work. After only a second the program quits where
> the list of links to be used is printed.  The program ends with an
> "shmget failed" statement.  I presume this has something to do with
> shared memory, but I am not sure what to try next.  Perhaps someone
> knows what to try next, or perhaps what diagnostics to use to make sure
> the system has been configured properly.
>   Regards, Dave Close.
>
>
>

Here are some notes I received on this...
-Bryan

IF YOU WANT TO RUN SHARED-MEMORY ON AN SMP system.

Linux assumes that you want to share only small portions of memory, where
Gaussian wants big chunks. To allow larger chunks of memory to be shared,
add the following lines to /etc/sysctl.conf (requires reboot as this
forces a re-configure of the kernel at boot):

        kernel.shmmax=134217728
        kernel.shmall=134217728

(134217728 = 128*1024*1024 = 128Mb) You may set this according to your
memory needs. You are supposed to be able to write to the /proc/sys/kernel
files that control this on-the-fly, but it didn't seem to work for me and
would have to be done after each reboot anyway.



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Hi,
thanks for your reply. I was trying to perform some nmr calculations with
mp2 and triple split valence basis; I tried it also with the maxdisk key
and the calc crashes; however the value that is reported at the end of the
output file is really huge (about 280GB) and I don't have that much
scratch available. I'll try anyway as you suggest to put the reported
value as maxdisk, but I'm afraid to overflow our cluster (used by a
certain number of people!).
I'll let you know

Thanks again

Alessandro

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Giju Kalathingal wrote:

> Hello,
> Since I had missed your query to CCL, could you please
> send me your question again?
> I don't know what others replied to you. However,
> you may try to use "maxdisk" (for, e.g., 50GB), first
> with specifying some lower amount of memory. If the
> calc crashes, the output will give you some info.
> Then redo by specifying that amount of memory.
> It worked for me in the past.
>
> Sincerely,
> Giju Kalathingal
>
> PS. Let me know the outcome.
>
> >Hi,
> >I'd like to thanks Marcel Swart, Stephen Garrison, Olga Dmitrenko and
> >Giovanni Scalmani for the kind reply.
> >The problem as suggested was derived by a "out of disk" or "out of memory"
> >error (the famous -1); however I could not solve it because the disk
> >requested for my system was 280GB and more for a semidirect and at least
> >25GB of memory for a direct optimization. However the calculation run
> >properly with B3LYP/cc-pvtz, B3LYP/tzvp and B3LYP/6-311+G(2d,p) basis.
> >
> >Thanks again
> >
> >Alessandro Contini
> >
> >Alessandro Contini, Ph.D.
> >Istituto di Chimica Organica "Alessandro Marchesini"
> >Universit` degli Studi di Milano, Facolt` di Farmacia
> >Via Venezian, 21 20133 Milano
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> Dear ,
>
> With best regards,
> Giju Kalathingal
>
> Present Address:-
> Dr. Kalathingal Thomas Giju
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>
>

Alessandro Contini, Ph.D.
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I was wondering if there was a program, as well as intructions how, to add 
partial atomic charges, fragmental volume and solvation parameters to a pdb 
file to create a pdbqs file for use in AUTODOCK3 on a LINUX machine.

Thanks 
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I was wondering if there was such a thing a Sybyl for LINUX fo the prupose of 
adding partial atomic charges to a pdb file? If so how does one go about 
gettting it?

thanks
K.Doucet


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 I need to calculate volumes and surfaces of molecular fragments that fall within a given sphere (i.e. for the space falling within the union of the big sphrere and the van der Waals volume of the molecule intersected by it). Is there any simple way to do it (preferably under Windoze)?

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Ru-Zhen,Li wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> 
> I was trying to build a amyloid peptide with the builder module in Insight2, the sequence is 
> DAEFR---HDSGY---EVHHQ---KLVFF---AEDVG---SNKGA---IIGLM---VGGVV---IAT
>  
> What I am confused is: as we all know, there are two hydrogens on the amino group, and if I choose different hydrogen to form the peptide bond with the carboxylic acid group from the previous amino acids, I will have different structure, one is quite global, and another is quite linear.
>  
> what I really what to know is, since the amino acids is not symmetrical, the two hydrogens must be different to construct the secondary structure, shall I just select the two hydrogens randomly or shall I select a particular hydrogen? the peptide might choose the structure which has the lowest energy, but the problem is, since there are so many amino acids, there will be too many possibilities, how can I know which one is right?
>  
> can anyone tell me what is the truth in real protein? 

This is the famous 'protein folding problem', meaning you cannot know or
predict this straightaway. If you have e.g. NMR measurements, or X-ray
structure, you're done ofcourse. You could search the PDB for homologous
sequences and try the corresponding structures. Otherwise, try a long
(>>100ns!) M simulation and see whether significantly populated clusters develop.


-- 
Groetjes,

Anton
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Joey Harriman wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to cluster a database of a tetrapeptide with different geometries.  I am
> currently using MOE and have tried varying fingerprints (at the 99%) threshold with no
> success.  Does anyone have a good system for clustering different geometries of the
> same molecule from a database?  Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

There is a tool in the Gromacs (free under GPL at www.gromacs.org) package
desinged to cluster conformations from an MD trajectory. It will accept
concatenated .pdb files (all of the same molecule) as if it was a trajectory.
It is called g_cluster and has several algorithms to cluster conformations\
based on their RMSD, or you can read an externally generated 'difference'
matrix for your conformations.


-- 
Groetjes,

Anton
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From: Michel Petitjean <ptitjean/at/itodys.jussieu.fr>
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(1) compute the volume of the big sphere V1
(2) compute the van der Waals volume V2 
(3) compute the volume of the union V3 
The intersection between the big sphere and the van der Waals volume
has for volume V = V1 + V2 - V3, because the volume of the union
is V3 = V1 + V2 - V.

The freeware ASV is able to compute all these volumes:
http://petitjeanmichel.free.fr/itoweb.petitjean.freeware.html#ASV
 
Sorry, no Windows Version.

Michel Petitjean,                     Email: petitjean/at/itodys.jussieu.fr
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>
 >I need to calculate volumes and surfaces of molecular fragments
> that fall within a given sphere (i.e. for the space falling
> within the union of the big sphrere and the van der Waals volume
> of the molecule intersected by it). Is there any simple way to do it
> (preferably under Windoze)?
>
> Thanks - Zoli


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Hello,

There are scripts included with the autodock3 distribution that can help 
you accomplish your jobs. q.amber for charges and others.  Look at the 
online documentation from the autodock website 

Brian



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> 
> I was wondering if there was a program, as well as intructions how, to add 
> partial atomic charges, fragmental volume and solvation parameters to a pdb 
> file to create a pdbqs file for use in AUTODOCK3 on a LINUX machine.
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Hi Katie,

> I was wondering if there was a program, as well as intructions how, to add 
> partial atomic charges, fragmental volume and solvation parameters to a pdb 
> file to create a pdbqs file for use in AUTODOCK3 on a LINUX machine.

Try AutoDockTools, it runs on Windows, Unix and LINUX, there is a link from the main
AutoDock site (http://www.scripps.edu/pub/olson-web/doc/autodock/index.html), and there
are plenty of examples as well.

-Robert


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Hi everyone,

I am trying to run an ONIOM calculation with B3LYP/6-31+G(d,p) as a high layer 
and Amber as my low layer.  The error at the end of the file says I am missing 
atomic parameters (see below for the last part of the calc file).  What are 
these atomic parameters and where would I obtain them to get my calculation to 
work?

Thanking You in Advance,
Sarah Whittleton
Mount Allison University

Th calcaultion dies almost immediatley and ends with:

 I=  105 IAn= 15 Valence= 4.
          JB=  1 J=  106 IAn=  8 IBT= 1 Dist= 1.80D+00
          JB=  2 J=  107 IAn=  8 IBT= 2 Dist= 1.48D+00
          JB=  3 J=  171 IAn=  8 IBT= 1 Dist= 1.80D+00
          JB=  4 J=  104 IAn=  8 IBT= 2 Dist= 1.58D+00
 Missing atomic parameters for atom   207 IAtTyp=    20000000
 Missing atomic parameters.
 Error termination via Lnk1e in /var/local/g03/l101.exe at Fri Nov  7 15:18:04 
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 Job cpu time:  0 days  0 hours  0 minutes  0.6 seconds.
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Hi,

I have electronic density data for various systems. In gOpenMol, one can 
easily plot iso-density contours. However, I did not find a way to plot 
the iso-density surface containing a given amount (say 90%) of the 
*total* charge density.

Do you know weather it can be done with gOpenMol, or any other viewer?

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I have electronic density data for various systems. In gOpenMol, one
can easily plot iso-density contours. However, I did not find a way to
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Katie,

In the 6.9.1 release of SYBYL (on Linux or IRIX) there is a command in the
Biopolymer module "Load Charges".
This allows you add charges from a variety of charge treatments for both the
protein and any bound ligand/cofactors etc.

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I was wondering if there was such a thing a Sybyl for LINUX fo the prupose
of
adding partial atomic charges to a pdb file? If so how does one go about
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thanks
K.Doucet


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