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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:40:50 +0100
Subject: Re: CCL:Summary: Calculations without  Born-Oppenheimer approximation  "2nd Call"
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"John McKelvey" <jmmckel*at*attglobal.net>:

> Jens,
> 
> A question, please.  Neglecting the fact that FSGO's may be poor basis
> functions, where do they stand with respect to BO if the positions of the
> gaussians are optimized along with the SCF process?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John McKelvey
> 

Dear John: 

I don't have the papers at hand. But as far as I see, the 
basic features of the approach by Boehm and associates are the 
following: They perform the basic calculations within the 
usual Born-Oppenheimer approximation, obtaining data for a 
very large number of nuclear configurations. This part of the 
investigation can be performed with a variety of electronic 
hamiltonians and basis sets, as in other standard ab initio 
procedures. However, and that is the important point, they 
don't determine the molecular "equilibrium configuration" in 
the usual Born-Oppenheimer manner, i.e., by selecting the 
single nuclear configuration that corresponds to a minimum on 
the Born-Oppenheimer potential hypersurface. In the Boehm 
procedure, the quantum and thermal nuclear degrees of freedom 
are accounted for by forming quantum ensemble averages over 
the set of nuclear configurations. The result is a wave-packet 
picture of the nuclear positions that goes beyond the Born-
Oppenheimer picture.

Yours, Jens >--<


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Dear CCL!

In my files I keep the following quotation from A. Comte:

   "Every attempt to employ mathematical methods in the study 
of chemical questions must be considered profoundly irrational 
and contrary to the spirit in chemistry.
    If mathematical analysis should ever hold a prominent 
place in chemistry - an aberration which is happily almost 
impossible - it would occasion a rapid and widespread 
degeneration of that science."   A. Comte (1830)

I got it several years ago from an Internet page, without any 
details. Does anybody know this text? A. Comte must be the 
philosopher Auguste Comte, and the year 1830 may indicate his 
work "Cours de philosophie positive" which was published in 
this and the following years. But what can he have meant? Any 
comments?

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From: Steve Williams <willsd<<at>>appstate.edu>
Subject: CCL: archive section of gaussian output file
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I am sure that someone out there can answer this question but I cannot 
recall it being asked in the past 12 or so years I've been on CCL:

I need the equivalent of high precision vibrational mode data from g98 and 
g03 calculation that I have already run (some of the mp2 freq=raman took 
quite a long time), but I foolishly did not always specify freq=hpmodes in 
the route line.  Had I done so, the required displacements (with more than 
2 digits of precision) would be nicely labeled in the output files....

I think that this information is included in the archive section (since I 
think this is where gaussview gets its information) at the end of the out 
put file, but I am not sure how it is formatted there, nor where it is 
located.

Can anyone help?  I have included a typical archive section.  (Apologies in 
advance for including a large lump of nearly incomprehensible text....)

Thanks,
Steve Williams


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Hi, all:

I am doing the geometry optimization of a system with 132 atoms. and I
used the keyword "opt=modredundant" to constrain some distances and
dihedral angles. the input file is like following:

****************************
#T RHF/6-31G(d) Opt=ModRedundant Test

Test

0 1
C  0.1 0.1 0.1
..............      //the XYZ format coordinates
.............
............. 

N1 N2 N3 N4 F       //the constraints, about 32 constraints in total
N6 N7 F
........
.............

************************

the calculation stopped after 8 hours and gave the error message like
this:

**************************
ShPair-CalcS2-2 allocation failure:  iend,mxcore=   3448329   2993230
 Error termination via Lnk1e in
/usr/local/stow/Gaussian-linda/g98/l701.exe.
 Job cpu time:  0 days  9 hours 21 minutes 46.1 seconds.
 File lengths (MBytes):  RWF=  598 Int=    0 D2E=    0 Chk=   21 Scr=    1
**************************

Could anybody tell me what is going on here? Thank you very much.

Wei Zhuang









