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Yong,

Try using the mopac 7 distribution and instructions available from the 
WebMO website "MOPAC 7 Installation Instructions for IRIX":
      http://www.webmo.net/support/mopac_sgi.html

Will Polik

At 11:02 AM 6/23/2004, you wrote:
>    I tried to compile mopac7 under IRIX6.5 using GCC compiler,
>however I always get the error message as below:
>
>**Error code 1 (bug 21)
>Too many arguments passed to intrinsic 'SECOND' at (^)
>----------------------------------
>
>The commnad line in Makefile is as below:
>
>g77 -w -O -static *.f -o $(EXE)
>
>
>Does anybody know how to fix this bug? I downloaed the
>binary from Webmo website. Any suggestion is highly
>appreciated. Thanks in advance.

================================
Dr. William F. Polik
Hofma Professor of Chemistry

Department of Chemistry
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Yong,<br><br>
Try using the mopac 7 distribution and instructions available from the
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<a href="http://www.webmo.net/support/mopac_sgi.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.webmo.net/support/mopac_sgi.html</a><br><br>
Will Polik<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
At 11:02 AM 6/23/2004, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>&nbsp;&nbsp; I tried to compile
mopac7 under IRIX6.5 using GCC compiler,<br>
however I always get the error message as below:<br><br>
**Error code 1 (bug 21)<br>
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The commnad line in Makefile is as below:<br><br>
g77 -w -O -static *.f -o $(EXE)<br><br>
<br>
Does anybody know how to fix this bug? I downloaed the<br>
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appreciated. Thanks in advance. </blockquote>
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USA<br><br>
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>I have some transition-sate structures and their corresponding 
>energies.  In addition, I
>have the enantiomeric excess values for the products that arise from these
>transition-state structures.  Is there a method that can be used to 
>correlate in silico
>transition-state energies to the ee's reported in litterature.  I 
>have been searching
>in vain for a method, but have been unsuccesful to date.  Any help 
>would be greatly
>appreciated.

	This comes out of the Eyring or Arrhenius equations, which 
you find in any basic physical chemistry text book.  Arrhenius: k = A 
exp(-Ea/RT); I prefer Eyring, but they give the same results when 
you're looking at relative rates.  As a first approximation assume 
that the constant(s) are equal for both paths (usually including the 
entropy, a fairly strong approximation...).  I assume that you're 
looking at an irreversible step, then the ratio of products, r, can 
be obtained simply as the ratio of rate constants, r = exp(DEa/RT), 
where DEa is the difference in transition state energy (all the 
constants disappear in the division).  When you have the ratio, the 
ee is easily obtained from ee = (r-1)/(r+1), which is the excess 
divided by the total, the definition of ee.

	/Per-Ola
-- 
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Steve,

Mol2mol has an advanced rotation toolbar, which has the options you are looking for. In
addition, you can decide wheter to apply or not the screen rotations to the original
coordinates and to save them.
Look at:
http://web.interware.hu/frenzy/mol2mol

or the rotation stuff:

http://web.interware.hu/frenzy/mol2mol/m2m/graphwin.htm#rot_summary

Regards

Tamas Gunda
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> I am frantically searching for a simple piece of code that will allow me to:
>
> Read a standard file (mol, pdb, Sybyl ...)
> select an atom to put at the Cartesian origin
> select an atom to put on the X axis
> select an atom to put in the XY plane
> Do a rigid rotation
> Do sequential rigid rotations about Cartesian axes
> Freeze the molecule in the new orientation
> Output the NEW, transformed coordinates.
>
> This is equivalent to the Sybyl "orient" command, plus rigid rotations, plus
> "Freeze molecule". But I have not found a free (or even cheap) package that
> will freeze a molecule in the new coordinates before output.
>
> Thanks in advance for any pointers,
> Steve
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> <pre>
> >I have some transition-sate structures and their corresponding 
> >energies.  In addition, I
> >have the enantiomeric excess values for the products that arise from these
> >transition-state structures.  Is there a method that can be used to 
> >correlate in silico
> >transition-state energies to the ee's reported in litterature.  I 
> >have been searching
> >in vain for a method, but have been unsuccesful to date.  Any help 
> >would be greatly
> >appreciated.
> 
> 	This comes out of the Eyring or Arrhenius equations, which 
> you find in any basic physical chemistry text book.  Arrhenius: k = A 
> exp(-Ea/RT); I prefer Eyring, but they give the same results when 
> you're looking at relative rates.  As a first approximation assume 
> that the constant(s) are equal for both paths (usually including the 
> entropy, a fairly strong approximation...).  I assume that you're 
> looking at an irreversible step, then the ratio of products, r, can 
> be obtained simply as the ratio of rate constants, r = exp(DEa/RT), 
> where DEa is the difference in transition state energy (all the 
> constants disappear in the division).  When you have the ratio, the 
> ee is easily obtained from ee = (r-1)/(r+1), which is the excess 
> divided by the total, the definition of ee.
> 
> 	/Per-Ola
> -- 
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On Friday 04 June 2004 18:00, Mark Thompson wrote:
> One major drawback to scientific programing in Java, at the present time,
> is good 3D graphics. 

I agree with the situation that OpenGL support for Java is not where it should 
be... Java3D had very many bugs, and I guess JOGL is its successor announced 
quite some time ago already, and have not heard much about it yet...

But, the good news is, that for top quality molecular graphics, you don't 
necessarily need hardware accelerated graphics... Unless you need a *very* 
general 3D library, but just focus on molecular stuff, I would suggest to 
have a look at the Jmol v10 prereleases of which demo's can be found on this 
website:

<a 
href="http://jmol.sourceforge.net/preview/">http://jmol.sourceforge.net/preview/
</a>

Note that thousands of atoms as in the Nanotech example are not really a 
problem. In the field of biomolecular sciences, there are nice examples of 3D 
rendering in cartoon, ribbon format and some others.

Not likely the best performance ever, but very close.

Egon

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Will,

Try to use Mol2mol for converting hin files to pdbq files
http://web.interware.hu/frenzy/mol2mol

Tamas Gunda
University of Debrecen, Hungary
tgunda *AT* puma.unideb.hu


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Subject: CCL:hyperchem in tandem with autodock


I'm a biochemistry grad student who has recently been given the task of learning basic
molecular modeling independently.  I have learned the basics of hyperchem and autodock,
and, having no experience in computational chemistry, have blindly moved forward and my
dockings.  It was recently suggested to me that although hyperchem can be used to find
docking/binding energies through geometry optimizations, I should just use it to assign
charges to my substrates (which are rather small 10-15 C) and use these substrates for my
autodock dockings.  However, I was under the impression that charges were assigned through
autodock without having to use hyperchem.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.  Also, .hin
files are not compatible with autodock and must somehow be converted to .pdbq files if
this method is indeed useful.  I've found a python script hin2pdbq.py, but don't know how
to use it since I have no real knowledge of how to use linux/python.  I managed to get
autodock up and running on cygwin with some help from the members of this board (thanks).
Any input would be greatly appreciated.  On a side note, I'm very interested in learning
how to screen a database of possible substrate/inhibitors with autodock.  I have no idea
if an additional program is needed or what changes to make.  Thanks a lot for the help in
advance.

Will
University of south florida
ewlowe<<at>>helios.acomp.usf.edu



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ArgusLab 4.0 can do this.

http://www.arguslab.com

Mark

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Behalf Of Steve Bowlus
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Subject: CCL:Orient molecule


I am frantically searching for a simple piece of code that will allow me to:

Read a standard file (mol, pdb, Sybyl ...)
select an atom to put at the Cartesian origin
select an atom to put on the X axis
select an atom to put in the XY plane
Do a rigid rotation
Do sequential rigid rotations about Cartesian axes
Freeze the molecule in the new orientation
Output the NEW, transformed coordinates.

This is equivalent to the Sybyl "orient" command, plus rigid rotations, plus
"Freeze molecule". But I have not found a free (or even cheap) package that
will freeze a molecule in the new coordinates before output.

Thanks in advance for any pointers,
Steve


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Dear Colleagues,

 

Please note that the new version of Molecular Conceptor - Medicinal
Chemistry & Drug Design Courseware was released.

 

This interactive course for teaching students and self-training of young
scientists in pharmaceutical industry includes more than 20 chapters and
2000 pages:

 

A - MOLECULAR MODELING

      Molecular Geometry

Molecular Properties 

Stereochemistry 

Molecular Energies 

Conformational Analysis 

Selected Examples in 3D Analysis 

B - PROTEIN STRUCTURE AND MODELING 

Protein Structure 

C - RATIONAL DRUG DESIGN 

Principles of Rational Drug Design 

D - STRUCTURE-BASED DRUG DESIGN 

Structure-Based Drug Design: Analysis 

Structure-Based Drug Design: Design 

Structure-Based Drug Design: Examples 

Molecular Docking 

E - PHARMACOPHORE-BASED DRUG DESIGN 

Pharmacophore-Based Drug Design: Analysis 

Pharmacophore-Based Drug Design: Design 

Pharmacophore-Based Drug Design: Examples 

F - QSAR 

Introduction to QSAR 

H - PEPTIDOMIMETICS 

Peptidomimetics 

Peptidomimetics Examples 

I - ADME PROPERTIES AND PREDICTIONS 

ADME Properties 

K - GENERAL TOPICS 

Molecular Graphics 

General Introduction on drugs 

Drug Discovery 

Drug Development

 

Designed by N. Claude Cohen and his team (Synergix Ltd.)

 

More information: http://www.molecular-conceptor.com
<http://www.molecular-conceptor.com/>  

Download Demo: http://www.molecular-conceptor.com/demo_form.html 

 

Elie Cohen

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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Conceptor &#8211; Medicinal Chemistry &amp; Drug Design Courseware was
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
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drugs </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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There is an interesting benchmark that compares Java productivity (Sun Java 
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The author claims that in most tasks Java performance was superior.
The full story is here:

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Hi all,
 
I have performed a potential energy scan over two coordinates with
geometry optimization at each point.  From what I could gather from the
G03 manual and trying to get the simulations running, the way to do this
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# ... opt(addredundant,..) ..
 
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X Y <start> S <#steps <stepsize>
W Z <start> S <#steps <stepsize>
 
 
Where X,Y,W,Z are my coordinates of interest.
 
 
The calculation ran and completed geometry optimization at each step.
But I don't get a nice table like the Gaussian manual says I should by
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coordinates with geometry optimization at each point.<span
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the G03 manual
and trying to get the simulations running, the way to do this is like =
this:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'># &#8230;.. <span class=3DGramE>opt(</span><span =
class=3DSpellE>addredundant</span>,&#8230;.)
&#8230;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&lt;<span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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coordinates of
interest.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The calculation ran and completed geometry =
optimization at
each step.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>But I =
don&#8217;t get a nice
table like the Gaussian manual says I should by using the scan keyword. =
<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span>I don&#8217;t want to just use =
the scan
keyword, because I want geometry optimization at each =
step.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Is there a way to get my results out of my log file? =
I know
they are in there, but I have done post-processing w/Excel and =
it&#8217;s not
that fun and prone to errors.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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Steve,

This is something PyMOL can do with a little help from Python...
  
# PyMOL script: view2coord.pml

# get the current camera matrix
v=cmd.get_view()

# translate atoms to the current origin of rotation
alter_state 1, all, \
(x,y,z) = (x-v[12],y-v[13],z-v[14])

# apply the rotation (matrix multiplication)
alter_state 1, all, \
(x,y,z) = (x*v[0]+y*v[3]+z*v[6], \
x*v[1]+y*v[4]+z*v[7], x*v[2]+y*v[5]+z*v[8])

# end script

After loading a molecule and choosing a view (either with the mouse, or
using commands like "orient", "turn", "move", "center", etc.), you then
simply run the script and save the new coordinates:

load original_mol.pdb
orient
center 10/ca
@view2coord.pml
save transformed_mol.pdb
quit

Oh, and yes, PyMOL is still free unless you choose to pay for it.

Cheers,
Warren

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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: CCL:Orient molecule
> 
> I am frantically searching for a simple piece of code that 
> will allow me to:
> 
> Read a standard file (mol, pdb, Sybyl ...) select an atom to 
> put at the Cartesian origin select an atom to put on the X 
> axis select an atom to put in the XY plane Do a rigid 
> rotation Do sequential rigid rotations about Cartesian axes 
> Freeze the molecule in the new orientation Output the NEW, 
> transformed coordinates.
> 
> This is equivalent to the Sybyl "orient" command, plus rigid 
> rotations, plus "Freeze molecule". But I have not found a 
> free (or even cheap) package that will freeze a molecule in 
> the new coordinates before output.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any pointers,
> Steve
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Dear CCL-users,

Dear CCL users is anyone able to provide the whole community with an 
open available data set, which can be also used by the machine learning 
and data mining community as benchmark. E.g., like the NIPS feature 
selection challenge (only synthetic, no molecular structures).
http://www.nipsfsc.ecs.soton.ac.uk/

In my opinion we need open QSAR and Pharmacophore benchmark data sets 
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machine learning community without any structural informations.

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Hi!

I have just calculated a large cluster of zinc sulfide with G98W. After intensive calculation, I got thousands of MOs(molecular orbital). At this time, I want to study the contribution of each AOs(atomic orbital) to every MO. For a small molecule of tens of MOs, it is an easy job. But for thousands of MOs, it is time killing and boring. 

So, I wonder if there are some software tools that can do the analysis. Please let me know if this kind of software is available.

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On Wednesday 23 June 2004 10:42 pm, Steve Bowlus wrote:
> I am frantically searching for a simple piece of code that will allow me
> to:
>
> Read a standard file (mol, pdb, Sybyl ...)
> select an atom to put at the Cartesian origin
> select an atom to put on the X axis
> select an atom to put in the XY plane
> Do a rigid rotation
> Do sequential rigid rotations about Cartesian axes
> Freeze the molecule in the new orientation
> Output the NEW, transformed coordinates.
>
> This is equivalent to the Sybyl "orient" command, plus rigid rotations,
> plus "Freeze molecule". But I have not found a free (or even cheap)
> package that will freeze a molecule in the new coordinates before output.
>
> Thanks in advance for any pointers,
> Steve
>
>

I do not know of a mouse and windows package that will do what you
want, but it is easy with a 6-8 line nab program:
http://www.scripps.edu/case/

As I have posted here in the past, nab is a "molecular
manipulation" language with a syntax similar to C, but with atoms,
molecules, etc as primitive data types.  I use it extensively to
create the starting structures of quite complex molecules for
computational chemistry.  E.g., creating a B-DNA molecule of
arbitrary sequence is a 4-5 line program.

Licensed under the GPL, very well documented, runs on any 32-bit
Unix (e.g., Linux and BSD), and costs no money.  But you will need
to do some programming.

Good luck.
-- 
M. L. Dodson                                bdodson|at|scms.utmb.edu
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Here is the software to do it:

http://www.sg-chem.net/aomix/

You can easily analyze molecular systems with up to 7000 molecular
orbitals.

With regards,

S. Gorelsky

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, li wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I have just calculated a large cluster of zinc sulfide with G98W. After intensive calculation, I got thousands of MOs(molecular orbital). At this time, I want to study the contribution of each AOs(atomic orbital) to every MO. For a small molecule of tens of MOs, it is an easy job. But for thousands of MOs, it is time killing and boring.
>
> So, I wonder if there are some software tools that can do the analysis. Please let me know if this kind of software is available.
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> Sincerely yours
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 arashid|at|iqe.phys.ethz.ch wrote:

> 
> <a href="http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45250">http://www.sys-
> con.com/story/?storyid=45250</a>
> 

	W/ regards to java/c++ benchmarks the following discussion may
be relevant :

http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/15/217239&mode=nested&tid=108&tid=126&tid=156

Here are another set of benchmarks using both icc/gcc and slightly
rewritten version of the same c++ benchmark set (addressing some of 
the original issues w/ the c++ benchmark) that was done :

http://cpp.student.utwente.nl/benchmark/

	-best,
	-avi

