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Preliminary ECCC10 Announcement

Dear colleagues,

I am pleased to announce that the 10th Electronic
Computational Chemistry Conference will be held during the month of April
2005, entirely on the Internet, at http://eccc.monmouth.edu. A call for
papers will follow this announcement in the very near future.

As in previous years, ECCC10 is a multidisciplinary, international
conference and covers all aspects of computational and theoretical
chemistry and materials science, as well as computational molecular
biology, computational and theoretical molecular and atomic physics,
visualization, chem- and bio-informatics, the history of computational
chemistry
and related fields. Participants will be able to view the
presentations and discuss them entirely through a web browser.

As with the previous nine ECCCs, ECCC10 will have NO registration fee
and is a completely virtual, online conference. The ECCC was originally
conceived of and developed by Steven Bachrach, who organized the first
five meetings.

Abstracts for all contributions to ECCC10 will be reviewed by the
Scientific Organizing Committee (SOC) to insure novelty, scientific
value, and appopriateness for inclusion in the conference. Invitations to
join the SOC will be issued shortly; volunteers who would like to help
with various aspects of the conference (including volunteers for SOC
membership) would be most welcome.

All presentations must be made in HTML format and ideally will take full
advantage of the interactive nature of the World-Wide Web to present
their findings and conclusions. Authors may choose to either serve their
contributions from their own local web site, or may request us to serve
them from our own server. Uploaded contributions will be removed from our
server at the end of ECCC10.

As in ECCC9, a single weeklong "interactive" session will be part of the
conference. This session will be held via asynchronous posting of
questions to the conference site, which authors can choose to receive
either at the site, at their personal email account, or both. All authors
must commit to having at least one coauthor available to answer questions
(i.e. by checking the discussion board at least once daily) during the
"interactive" session to provide timely responses (within approximately
24 hours) to any questions that conferees may have about their online
presentation.

I very much look forward to your active participation in ECCC10.

Robert Q. Topper
Department of Chemistry, Medical Technology and Physics
Monmouth University
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From: Konstantin Kudin <konstantin_kudin^at^yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: CCL:Guess on change in geometry
To: Matt Challacombe <MChalla^at^ICE.LANL.GOV>, chemistry^at^ccl.net
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 Matt,

 There could be a number of ways to get density for an updated
geometry.
Perhaps, the easiest ones would be to purify the previous density
matrix, or diagonalize the old Fock matrix with the new orbitals. The
geometry changes should not be too large.
Specifically:

1) density purification -
 Diagonalize {-SV*D*(SV)^t} where D is the old atomic density, S, V are
new overlap and orthonormal basis coefficient matrices. Occupy Ne
lowest eigenvalues. That is what {-} is for. With the {-}, 1 becomes -1
and everything is sorted by the diagonalization routine itself.

2) old Fock diagonalization -
 Diagonalize {V^t*F*V}, where F is the old Fock matrix, V is a new
orthonormal coefficient matrix. As before, occupy Ne lowest
eigenvalues.

 {^t} stands for complex-conjugate.

 My experience would suggest that 1) appears to be better than 2),
although if the gain is significant or marginal I am still not fully
sure.

 I have used 2) a lot with the periodic boundary conditions
calculations. On the other hand, 1) worked like a charm when I needed
to create a good density matrix from ionic densities, then D consisted
of patches for ionic densities with 0s for cross-ionic density
elements. Such "patching" permits one to keep the ionic electronic
state for transition metals.

 Kostya



--- Matt Challacombe <MChalla^at^ICE.LANL.GOV> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I haven't seen much in the quantum chemistry literature on methods
> for 
> creating a new guess to start an SCF after a change in geometry.  I'm
> guessing
> this is something that most code developers take for granted, and
> never really
> publish.  Do any of you CCL'ers out there have the intimate details
> of these
> procedures for your code of choice?  
> 
> Thx, Matt
> 
> -- 
> Matt Challacombe, Group T-12, LANL
> MChalla^at^LANL.Gov, (505) 665-5905
> http://www.t12.lanl.gov/~mchalla/
> 


		
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Hi,

I would like to thank a series of people for very valuable pointers 
about hydrophobic surface area evaluation. The people are (in no 
prioritized order):
Mitchell Polley, Jamie Platts, Andreas Bender, Joe, Rajarshi Guha, 
Giulio Vistoli, Gabriele Cruciani, and Michel Petitjean.

I haven t had a chance to test the various alternatives yet, so I might 
get back to some of you to obtain the scripts and code that you have 
kindly offered to provide me with.

I think, that I will initially test GRID, but I may eventually also 
test some of the other proposed alternatives.

Thanks again,
Torben.

Here are all the answers I received:
Mitchell Polley:
I'd recommend MolCAD by Jurgen Brickman, available from Tripos Inc. 
(www.tripos.com)

Jamie Platts:
I can send a copy of Dodd and Theorodou's original VOLUME program, 
which treats molecules as a set of super-imposed vdw spheres and 
reports their exposed surface area (see reference below).
We've also modified this to read MDL mol files, and automatically 
identify polar (N, O, NH, OH) atoms, if this would be useful. Both are 
freely distributed under the GNU GPL.
Reference:
"Analytical treatment of the volume and surface area of molecules 
formed by an arbitrary collection of unequal spheres intersected by 
planes"
L.R. Dodd and D.N. Theodorou
MOLECULAR PHYSICS, Volume 72, Number 6, 1313-1345, April 1991

Andreas Bender:
One possibility is GRID (http://www.moldiscovery.com/) - which is free 
for academic research groups. You can calculate points on the surface 
e.g. using msms and then use the coordinates as input for GRID, in 
combination with suitable probes (e.g. methyl or DRY probe in your 
case) put at those points you get estimates about "hydrophobicity" 
(energy values) in certain areas of your molecule. I wrote a tcsh 
script to calculate those energy values in bath mode and I could send 
it to you. Just be aware that you need to have msms and GRID installed 
for it to run.

Joe:
One of the easiest approaches is to take Ertl's TPSA rules to calculate 
polar surface area and consider everything else as lipophilic (total 
area - TPSA). If you want graphical representations, I think Molcad 
does this...

Rajarshi Guha:
HSA descriptors (as well as surface area and molecular volume) are 
available in the ADAPT package (http://research.chem.psu.edu/pcjgroup/)

Giulio Vistoli:
I can suggest to use VEGA program (www.ddl.unimi.it) It is free and can 
calculate polar surface area and total area and by difference you can 
have an evaluation of hydrophobic surface.

Gabriele Cruciani:
Try GRID, with DRY (hydrophobic) probe, for small molecules and 
biomolecules as well.
It is free. Windows UNIX and Linux are available, under 
www.moldiscovery.com

Michel Petitjean:
Look to the freeware ASV (there is documentation and references):
http://petitjeanmichel.free.fr/itoweb.petitjean.spheres.html
http://petitjeanmichel.free.fr/itoweb.petitjean.freeware.html#ASV
Both the analytical method and the Monte-Carlo are included.




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Hi all

Can anyone point me to some free software to do molecular dynamics =
simulations that run or runs under Windows (preferably), Cygwin or =
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RIchard,

The following two programs should be what you are looking for:

Tinker: http://dasher.wustl.edu/tinker/
NAMD: http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/namd/

Masa Watanabe

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  Hi all

  Can anyone point me to some free software to do molecular dynamics =
simulations that run or runs under Windows (preferably), Cygwin or =
Linux?  I'd prefer Windows programs, but the other two would work as =
well.  I'm on a real low budget, so I really need some free programs.

  Thanks in advance,
  Richard


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tinker: <A=20
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earch/namd/</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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