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From: "Telkuni Tsuru" <telkuni$at$venus.dti.ne.jp>
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Subject: DBs for RNA
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:35:41 +0900
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 Hello, CCLers.

I'm looking for DBs and web-sites which describe the relationship between 
RNA sequence and structure(including calculated structure).

Although I know "Nucleic Acid Database" http://ndbserver.rutgers.edu/ , 
the site's sequence number is few to me. I can't find suitable data from
"PDB" http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/ . And I don't know calculated structure
DBs.

If you know such DBs and sites, please let me know.
When I receive replies, I will summarize them.



  Sincerely yours,
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        Telkuni Tsuru     telkuni$at$venus.dti.ne.jp




From vdava@davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk  Mon Jan 17 15:29:34 2005
From: Daan van Aalten <vdava..at..davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk>
To: chemistry-request..at..server.ccl.net, jlabanow..at..nd.edu
Subject: PRODRG available for download / release of PRODRG2.5 server (fwd)
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 Dear all

 The PRODRG2 program, which generates coordinates and topologies from
 scratch (output formats: various PDB files with/without hydrogens and CNS,
 REFMAC, SHELX, WHAT IF, O, MDL Molfile, Mol2, Gromacs, Autodock (and
 others) topologies) is now available as a binary executable for free for
 academic users.  Please download and use PRODRG locally if you want to,
 for instance, convert large libraries of small molecules - this will
 relieve some of the strain on the server, which is still there for anyone
 to use and always runs the most up-to-date/bug-fixed version.

 In addition, a new version, PRODRG2.5, is available for testing on the
 server (and will also soon be available for downloading). There are
 several improvements, the most significant improvement is compatibility
 with the Gromos96 force field. PRODRG2.5 is very much a beta version and
 we would welcome your feedback to help us improve it.

 The server/download page is at http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/prodrg

 Happy PRODRG-ing and best wishes for 2005!

 Alex Schuettelkopf & Daan van Aalten

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From: Sengen Sun <sengensun{at}yahoo.com>
Subject: CCL:orbitals and reality 
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I have been asked to make a summary on this year
discussion on this subject. I received responces from
10 this year. 3 of them are neutral, 5 agree, and 2
disagree. I am specially interested in the
disagreements and therefore post them here. I would
think the first one might be meaningful. And we will
have to see.

I would be much happier if Mikael P Johansson and any
one else could also critisize my earlier postings on
the List as well :-). Here are two examples:

http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/message.cgi?2003+07+28+001;

http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/message.cgi?2003+06+02+016;

The second disagreement is not specific enough. But I
will address it later after Mikael P Johansson's next
message or posting. 

Cheers!

Sengen
  
--- Mikael P Johansson <mikael.johansson{at}helsinki.fi>
wrote:

 
> Well, if it helps, I disagree with you :-) I will
> write up a "pro-orbital"
> mail for CCL as soon as my work load permits.
> 
> Happy New Year,
>     Mikael J.
>     http://www.helsinki.fi/~mpjohans/

> 
--- @yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello Dr. Sun,
> 
> It's interesting to see your posts about that paper.
> 
> 
> Since I am very busy I have not read the details of
> the paper. However it
> looks like what they did in the paper is very
> important and meaningful.
> 
> I think they derived some information about the
> orbital from experiments
> and data analysis, similar to the X-ray data
> analysis in some sense. Also
> they mentioned that the phase component of the wave
> function is arbitary.
> Very likely they derived the real part or the
> imaginative part, or at
> least some of either.  So it's still very meaningful
> 

> 





		
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