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A new development release of MMTK, 2.5.5, is available now at the=20
standard locations. There are two new features that qualify as=20
experimental: the definition of molecules from within a Python script,=20
and the storage of molecular systems in XML files.

The new module MMTK.MoleculeFactory permits the definition of groups=20
and molecules in terms of atoms, groups, and bonds. Coordinates and=20
attributes can be defined as well. See the example=20
Miscellaneous/molecule_factory.py for an illustration of its use. This=20
approach to molecule construction is complementary to the usual one of=20
writing database definition files. Depending on the application, one or=20
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The XML file storage is a result of a discussion on an FSAtom mailing=20
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The format now implemented in MMTK is the last proposal I made on that=20
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Hello all,
I'm trying to dock a small molecule to a protein. To add hydrogens to the 
protein I use adt and it works well except only one lysine residue it does 
not add the third hydrogen to it, all othe lysines have three hydrogens.
Also, how to modify the protonation state of histidine residues to make some 
HD1 and some positively charged.
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hello,

I am trying to visualize molecular orbitals (MOs) with Molden4.1 using the output from gaussian01. Is there any problem if I use the "gen" keyword and I specify my own basis set (lanl2dz for heavy atoms and 6-31+G for other atoms)? In fact I can actually display MOs but I am not sure if they are correct!
 
the input is as follows:

p b3lyp/gen density=current pop=(full, nboread)
pseudo=read gfprint gfinput test scf=(MaxCycle=300)
Symm(Int,Grad)


Thank you,

Luciano Marchio

Department of Chemistry
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	Dear Autodock users,

	Is anybody running AutoDock with grids 
that have more than 128 points in, at least, one 
dimension?

	I found in this list that if I want to 
use AutoDock with grids that have more than the 
default number of points in at least one 
dimension, I need to edit the 
dist305/src/autodock/autocomm.h file and change 
"128" in "#define MAX_GRID_PTS 128" by the value 
that I want. I have done this, and I have 
recompilated AutoDock with 256 grid points (i.e. 
"#define MAX_GRID_PTS 256" in the 
dist305/src/autodock/autocomm.h file). 
Apparently, it runs without problems at first, 
but after some runs, a "Segmentation fault" 
mistake appears. This segmentation fault repeats 
even if I run AutoDock with little grid maps 
(i.e. 40 grid points in each dimension). The 
"Segmentation fault" problem only dissapears when 
I return the mentioned autocomm.h file to the 
original settings.

	Therefore, I wonder if one of you has succed to do that.

	May you be so kind to help me?

	With many thanks in advances

	Gerard
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Try to set stacksize to unlimited:
in bash : ulimit -s ulimited
set stacksize "ulimited" (hopefully)
 
Bruno Sopko

Vemparala Satyavani <vani _(a)_ reef.phys.lsu.edu> wrote:

Gerard:

Thanks for the Makefile.. I could compile it.. but sadly when i try to
execute it, it fails giving a segmentation fault..

Vani
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, D.BIO- Gerard Pujadas wrote:

> 
> Dear Vani,
> 
> >
> >I have been having problems trying to compile autodock on Linux
> >machine..are there any suggestions?
> >any particular flags i need to have/omit
> >
> 
> probably the problem is that you need a Makefile 
> adapted for a compilation in a Linux machine. I 
> am running AutoDock in a PC with Mandrake and I 
> did the following:
> 
> 1) make clean
> 2) make
> 
> and that's all
> 
> Please, use the Makefile I attached here and 
> replace with it the existing Makefile in 
> src/autodock folder.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
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<DIV>Try to set stacksize to unlimited:</DIV>
<DIV>in bash : ulimit -s ulimited</DIV>
<DIV>set stacksize "ulimited" (hopefully)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bruno Sopko<BR><BR><B><I>Vemparala Satyavani &lt;vani _(a)_ reef.phys.lsu.edu&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>Gerard:<BR><BR>Thanks for the Makefile.. I could compile it.. but sadly when i try to<BR>execute it, it fails giving a segmentation fault..<BR><BR>Vani<BR>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, D.BIO- Gerard Pujadas wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dear Vani,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;I have been having problems trying to compile autodock on Linux<BR>&gt; &gt;machine..are there any suggestions?<BR>&gt; &gt;any particular flags i need to have/omit<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; probably the problem is that you need a Makefile <BR>&gt; adapted for a compilation in a Linux machine. I <BR>&gt; am running AutoDock in a PC with Mandrake and I <BR>&gt; did the following:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 1) make clean<BR>&gt; 2) make<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; and that's all<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Please, use the Makefile I attached here and <BR>&gt; replace with it the existing Makefile in <BR>&gt; src/autodock folder.<BR>&gt;
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--- Jorge Seminario <seminario = tamu.edu> wrote:

> Dear Prof. Sengen Sun,
> Yes, orbitals are humanly defined as any other
> definition.
> Certainly, some of the definitions of MOs are better
> than 
> others for expressing or representing observations
> of reality 
> (experiments).  So as long as you accept that MOs
> are just
> definitions (explicitly or implicitly) and that
> humans have
> the freedom to define them in different ways, and
> not just 
> constrained to one book, school, or interpretation,
> some 
> of these MO definitions might reflect acceptable,
> not necessarily 
> precise, observed features. Thus you can associate
> some of the
> MO definitions to an observed feature (reality). 
> Cordially
> Jorge
> 

It would be more accurate to say that any physical
properties are directly associated with electron
density and electrons' kinetic motion other than
single orbitals. Especially in multielectron systems,
it is impossible to me that any observable properties
can be CONCEPTUALLY assinged to specific orbitals,
although orbitals are very valuable in mathematical
treatments.

I just realize that it is hard to argue whether you
can associate some of the MO to an observed feature.
This question is dualistic depending how you think. If
you answer yes to this question, what you really mean
is to conduct mathematical correlations between
physical properties and orbitals. This is perfectly
fine to me. This does not make orbitals a physical
observable! At the most, what you can safely say is to
build an artificial image of orbitals. 

What is the point to argue about this? Dr. Scerri
started this 5 years ago, while I had had a long
standing problem to understand the mechanism of
concerted cycloadditions. After I studied Dr. Scerri's
philosphy for a couple of years, I started to realize
that I must support his philosophical arguments.

As indicated in a quote given in Dr. Spanget-Larsen's
posting on Jan. 20, "it is very dangerous to assume
that such a limited theory can then be used in a wider
sense. We must be very careful to ask proper questions
of our theories or we face the danger of being greatly
misled." 

Given such a situation of divided opinions in the
scientific community, it is meaningful to make some
effort and to seek some common ground or to form some
possible conventions about how to express our theories
and experiments. This could help our students
understand, and scientists understand each other.

Towards such a goal, I have made my own small effort.
Forgive me for my bad emotion and harsh languages I
used from time to time. I don't mind anything else as
soon as we have something to discuss about science.
Every one's opinions deserve being respected. I hope
every one will continue to pursue what he or she
believes to be correct. What I am really proud of is
that all the ordinary scientists have the
opportunities to express themselves in the stage of a
scientific party on Internet. This is the further
civilization of our human beings.

I hope this is my final posting to this thread
although I may continue to have fun by working on some
mechanisms of organic chemical reactions.

Thanks every one.

Sengen



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