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Dear CCL subscribers,

Jan Labonowski's recent reply on the organization of replies
to the list to my mind did not quite give a satisfactory
explanation of why the list was set up as it was. If I may
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I believe you need to use the GAUSS_MEMDEF environment variable, which  
allows you to set the memory (in words) available for G03 utilities  
(these utilities use 6 MW by default).  For example:

setenv GAUSS_MEMDEF 1900000

for tcsh

GAUSS_MEMDEF=1900000;export GAUSS_MEMDEF

for bash, etc.

See:

http://www.gaussian.com/g_ur/m_utils.htm

near the bottom.

On Jun 12, 2005, at 7:04 AM, renyanliang wrote:

> Dear everybody
>
>   when I used the formchk to convert the file (gauss
> 03 C02 for sgi), I found one erro as following:
> Read checkpoint file 1prc-pbh-uff-zindo-pop.chk
> Write formatted file 1prc-pbh-uff-zindo-pop.fchk
> Out-of-memory error in routine FChkPn-MO (IEnd=
> 19876291 MxCore= 6291456)
> Use %mem=19MW to provide the minimum amount of memory
> required to
> complete this step.
> Error termination via Lnk1e at Fri Jun 10 07:34:06
> 2005.
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Dear CCLer's:
I download the MullPop written by professor Reinaldo Pis Diez. But it
can't work for Gaussian 03 output files.
Can you give me some advise on how to modify the source file in order
to use it for the G03 output files?


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Hi

There are numerous examples of TDDFT producing unrealistic and
unexpected results on various systems.  The system itselt should be well
studied both experimentally and theoretically before extracting deep
information from TDDFT results.

Molecular Physics, Vol. 103, No. 6, 2005, 1057.

should provide one example of the analysis of TDDFT performance.

Regards

Tarmo

1057 1065
	
On Jun 13, Rey Puiggros Oscar wrote:
> Hi Fred,
>  
> depending on the size of your system my choice would be Time Dependent Density Functional Methods or ZINDO/S. The first one is quite accurate but it is more expensive, while ZINDO/S is semi-empirical and faster but with lower accuracy.
>  
> Hope it helps,
>  
> Oscar
> 
> ________________________________
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> Para: chemistry (a) ccl.net
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> 
> 
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> I am looking for a method to predict colored compounds or their absorbance spectra in UV-vis.
> Thanks for your suggestions
> Fred
> 
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Summary:

I'm looking for a review of term symbols- particularly molecular. Can 
anyone recommend a review article or book?

_______________

Hi.

Check Haken and Wolf's "Molecular Physics and Elements of Quantum Chemistry"


Regards,
Ojwang JGO
---------------------
Eindhoven University,
The Netherlands


_______________

For diatomic molecules, may I suggest the classic: G. Herzberg, Spectra
of Diatomic Molecules.  For polyatomic molecules, master group theory.
F. A. Cotton's text is an excellent place to start.

Wayne E. Steinmetz
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The only papers that I have read dealing with emission, have calculated a
single value for the energy by calculating the difference between (a) the
energy of the lowest energy excited state and (b) the energy of the ground
state at the geometry of the excited state. As regards software, any general
purpose computational chemistry program such as GAMESS, PC-GAMESS, Gaussian,
ADF, Jaguar could be used.

Since the fluorescence spectra is usually a single peak (?), this seems to
be the simplest method. You could convolute the peak (on an energy scale)
using a Gaussian curve (for example, using Excel) and convert to wavelength.
This would then look like a fluorescence spectrum.

Regards,
Noel O'Boyle.

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>Dear Sirs:
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>Jim
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Dear CCL Subscribers:
>   I optimized a transition state at the b3lyp/DZVP level(Gaussian98) followed
 by the frequency calculation.The computation was normally terminated.But when I
checked the frequency, I found that there was no imaginary frequency,all the
frequencies arepositive.I have never met this kind of problem. Tow dummy atoms
were used in the input internal coordination.I do not know what caused this
problem.
> Here is my input file:
>
> %mem=900mb
> %chk=OH_ts01_ti.chk
> p b3lyp/gen opt=(ts,internal,noeigentest,maxcyc=100)
> scf(maxcyc=600,qc)
>
> Title Card Required
>
> 1  2
> Ti
> O     1              B1
> H     2              B2    1              A1
> C     2              B3    3              A2    1              D1
> C     4              B4    2              A3    3              D2
> X     5              1.0   4              90.0  2             180.0
> C     5              B5    6              A4    4              D3
> X     7              1.0   5              90.0  6              0.0
> H     7              B6    8              A5    5              D4
> H     4              B7    2              A6    3              D5
> H     4              B8    2              A7    3              D6
>
>   B1             1.930000
>   B2             1.720000
>   B3             1.440000
>   B4             1.460000
>   B5             1.210000
>   B6             1.070000
>   B7             1.090000
>   B8             1.090000
>   A1            62.048782
>   A2            97.037077
>   A3           109.090000
>   A4            90.000000
>   A5            90.000000
>   A6           108.160000
>   A7           108.160000
>   D1          -177.996405
>   D2          -179.390699
>   D3           179.900000
>   D4           179.900000
>   D5            61.879301
>   D6           -60.460699
>
> TI  0
> S   6  1.00
>       44446.8960        -0.172760000E-02
>       6664.41460        -0.132329000E-01
>       1511.98650        -0.660837000E-01
>       424.550780        -0.227469100
>       136.800230        -0.470875500
>       46.5145350        -0.364490100
> S   3  1.00
>       90.6049420        -0.101812600
>       10.1468580         0.604299200
>       4.02771640         0.469445000
> S   3  1.00
>       7.12703760        -0.212714600
>       1.10314030         0.710411800
>      0.432449500         0.415330700
> S   2  1.00
>      0.615575200        -0.152657400
>      0.858581000E-01     0.661035000
> S   1  1.00
>      0.331033000E-01      1.00000000
> P   5  1.00
>       537.669030         0.920800000E-02
>       126.364140         0.681868000E-01
>       39.5713790         0.259132400
>       13.9217500         0.504639000
>       4.99168060         0.348778700
> P   3  1.00
>       2.54789080         0.315219700
>      0.959793500         0.553401000
>      0.350206300         0.257754300
> P   1  1.00
>      0.855000000E-01      1.00000000
> D   4  1.00
>       13.5200160        -0.624137000E-01
>       3.50745230        -0.264801600
>       1.02209480        -0.479770000
>      0.262786100        -0.524055800
> D   1  1.00
>      0.510000000E-01      1.00000000
> ****
> C   0
> S   6  1.00
>       2808.06450         0.201780000E-02
>       421.138280         0.154332000E-01
>       95.5866160         0.755815000E-01
>       26.7390040         0.247828200
>       8.43282680         0.479372500
>       2.76058210         0.333834400
> S   2  1.00
>       5.44700450        -0.778408000E-01
>      0.479242200         0.568956000
> S   1  1.00
>      0.146156500          1.00000000
> P   4  1.00
>       18.1308520         0.158547000E-01
>       4.09988320         0.956828000E-01
>       1.18583700         0.304911900
>      0.368597400         0.493501600
> P   1  1.00
>      0.109720000          1.00000000
> D   1  1.00
>      0.600000000          1.00000000
> ****
> O   0
> S   6  1.00
>       5222.90220        -0.193640000E-02
>       782.539940        -0.148507000E-01
>       177.267430        -0.733187000E-01
>       49.5166880        -0.245116200
>       15.6664400        -0.480284700
>       5.17935990        -0.335942700
> S   2  1.00
>       10.6014410         0.788058000E-01
>      0.942317000        -0.567695200
> S   1  1.00
>      0.277474600          1.00000000
> P   4  1.00
>       33.4241260         0.175603000E-01
>       7.62217140         0.107630000
>       2.23820930         0.323525600
>      0.686730000         0.483222900
> P   1  1.00
>      0.193813500          1.00000000
> D   1  1.00
>      0.800000000          1.00000000
> ****
>   H   0
> S   4  1.00
>       50.9991780         0.966050000E-02
>       7.48321810         0.737289000E-01
>       1.77746760         0.295858100
>      0.519329500         0.715905300
> S   1  1.00
>      0.154110000          1.00000000
> ****
>
> --Link1--
> %mem=900mb
> %chk=OH_ts01_ti.chk
> p b3lyp/CHKBASIS stable=opt geom=check guess=read
>
> Title Card Required
>
> 1  2
>
>
> --Link1--
> %mem=900mb
> %chk=OH_ts01_ti.chk
> p b3lyp/CHKBASIS opt=(ts,internal,calcall) SCF(MaxCyc=600) geom=check
>  guess=read pop=(no,nbo) optcyc=100
>
> Title Card Required
>
> 1  2




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On Jun 13, 2005, at 2:07 AM, Rey Puiggros Oscar wrote:

> depending on the size of your system my choice would be Time  
> Dependent Density Functional Methods or ZINDO/S. The first one is  
> quite accurate but it is more expensive, while ZINDO/S is semi- 
> empirical and faster but with lower accuracy.

I'm not sure I'd completely agree with that. For neutral organic  
molecules, I think ZINDO/S does almost as well as TDDFT. Both do well  
with low-lying excited states.

e.g.
Hutchison, G. R.; et. al. J. Phys. Chem. A 2002, 106, 10596.
Fabian, J. Theor. Chem. Acc. 2001, 106, 199.

I'm sure there are similar "benchmark" studies too. (Although if  
anyone has similar comparative experiment vs. computed papers for  
charged organic species, I'd be grateful for references.)

-Geoff


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For a great review see the chapter by Stefan Grimme in Vol 20 of Reviews 
in Computational  Chemistry, and the references therein.  This may be 
the best review available on the subject for ab initio based methods.

John McKelvey


Tarmo Tamm wrote:

>Hi
>
>There are numerous examples of TDDFT producing unrealistic and
>unexpected results on various systems.  The system itselt should be well
>studied both experimentally and theoretically before extracting deep
>information from TDDFT results.
>
>Molecular Physics, Vol. 103, No. 6, 2005, 1057.
>
>should provide one example of the analysis of TDDFT performance.
>
>Regards
>
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>
>1057 1065
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>On Jun 13, Rey Puiggros Oscar wrote:
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>
>>Hi Fred,
>> 
>>depending on the size of your system my choice would be Time Dependent Density Functional Methods or ZINDO/S. The first one is quite accurate but it is more expensive, while ZINDO/S is semi-empirical and faster but with lower accuracy.
>> 
>>Hope it helps,
>> 
>>Oscar
>>
>>________________________________
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>>De: Computational Chemistry List en nombre de Fridiric Ooms
>>Enviado el: dom 12/06/2005 11:01
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>>Asunto: CCL:absorbance spectra or colored compound prediction
>>
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>>
>>Dear colleagues,
>>I am looking for a method to predict colored compounds or their absorbance spectra in UV-vis.
>>Thanks for your suggestions
>>Fred
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I am a student working with ONIOM in g03. Is it possible to modify the
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what
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proceed to
do this by using other software et cetera? I could not find an answer on =
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Yes, but...I think he wants to study what would more correctly be called =
a particular state of Li anion triplet. =20
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I don't remember how Gaussian treats the degeneracy of the three p =
orbitals.  If Gaussian just arbitrarily picks one of the three p =
orbitals, no special manipulation is needed; but if the HOMO is a =
mixture of px, py, and pz it's a different story...
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The electrons belong to the entire atom and are not constrained to any =
orbital.  One uses orbitals to construct the wave function.  One must be =
sure that the set of orbitals, i.e. the basis set, is sufficiently =
flexible to describe completely the molecular species.  You are dealing =
with an atomic species so a polarization basis set is probably not =
needed.

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=20

Gday,=20

=20

I would like to do an MP2 calc on a Li- species in triplet state.=20

=20

With one electron in the s orbital and one in a p orbital,=20

how can you constrain the electron to say the px orbital?=20

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> The only papers that I have read dealing with emission, have 
> calculated a
> single value for the energy by calculating the difference 
> between (a) the
> energy of the lowest energy excited state and (b) the energy 
> of the ground
> state at the geometry of the excited state. As regards 

See this paper and references 1 and 6 within it:

Journal of Physical Chemistry B, 2002, 106(44), 11658-11665

This uses a method based on fluctuation dissipation theory and linear
response to calculate both absorption and emission spectra, stokes shift and
spectral widths.

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To troubleshoot this problem, look at the final geometry in your favorite viewer.  Does it look like the TS, or does it look like reactants or products?  Or maybe the reaction has more than one step and you found an intermediate?  

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Dear CCL Subscribers:
>   I optimized a transition state at the b3lyp/DZVP level(Gaussian98) 
> followed
 by the frequency calculation.The computation was normally terminated.But when I checked the frequency, I found that there was no imaginary frequency,all the frequencies arepositive.I have never met this kind of problem. Tow dummy atoms were used in the input internal coordination.I do not know what caused this problem.
> Here is my input file:
>
> %mem=900mb
> %chk=OH_ts01_ti.chk
> p b3lyp/gen opt=(ts,internal,noeigentest,maxcyc=100)
> scf(maxcyc=600,qc)
>
> Title Card Required
>
> 1  2
> Ti
> O     1              B1
> H     2              B2    1              A1
> C     2              B3    3              A2    1              D1
> C     4              B4    2              A3    3              D2
> X     5              1.0   4              90.0  2             180.0
> C     5              B5    6              A4    4              D3
> X     7              1.0   5              90.0  6              0.0
> H     7              B6    8              A5    5              D4
> H     4              B7    2              A6    3              D5
> H     4              B8    2              A7    3              D6
>
>   B1             1.930000
>   B2             1.720000
>   B3             1.440000
>   B4             1.460000
>   B5             1.210000
>   B6             1.070000
>   B7             1.090000
>   B8             1.090000
>   A1            62.048782
>   A2            97.037077
>   A3           109.090000
>   A4            90.000000
>   A5            90.000000
>   A6           108.160000
>   A7           108.160000
>   D1          -177.996405
>   D2          -179.390699
>   D3           179.900000
>   D4           179.900000
>   D5            61.879301
>   D6           -60.460699
>
> TI  0
> S   6  1.00
>       44446.8960        -0.172760000E-02
>       6664.41460        -0.132329000E-01
>       1511.98650        -0.660837000E-01
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On 6/13/05, Muj? <lith {} ynu.edu.cn> wrote:
> Dear CCL Subscribers:
> >   I optimized a transition state at the b3lyp/DZVP level(Gaussian98) followed
>  by the frequency calculation.The computation was normally terminated.But when I
> checked the frequency, I found that there was no imaginary frequency,all the
> frequencies arepositive.I have never met this kind of problem.
It means only one - you found not a transition state, but just minimum
of the energy. The TS location problem is not a simple one, the method
implemented in the Gaussian as well as in other programs can find only
nearest stationary point, either TS or minimum. So, it is very
imporatnt to set proper initial geometry. Note that the program can
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Dear all,

S. I. Gorelsky and A. B. P. Lever used ZINDO and TD-DFT a lot for calculating
absorption spectra of (charged) transition metal complexes. There are numerous
papers where they used both techniques, but this one might be a good start:

J Organomet Chem, 635 (2001) 187-196.

The conclusions are that both methods yield similar results, most interestingly,
that this also applies to the calculated MOs (Kohn-Sham-orbitals vs.
semiempirical ZINDO/s-MOs). I do not know too much about DFT/TD-DFT, but to my
knowledge prior to that publication, DFT-theory only gives something physically
meaningful and interpretable for the overall-electron density (and all
quantities derivable from that), but not for "single electron"-wavefunctions
(=MOs). However, I might be wrong.

Best wishes,
Andreas

Geoff Hutchison wrote:
> 
> On Jun 13, 2005, at 2:07 AM, Rey Puiggros Oscar wrote:
> 
>> depending on the size of your system my choice would be Time  
>> Dependent Density Functional Methods or ZINDO/S. The first one is  
>> quite accurate but it is more expensive, while ZINDO/S is semi- 
>> empirical and faster but with lower accuracy.
> 
> 
> I'm not sure I'd completely agree with that. For neutral organic  
> molecules, I think ZINDO/S does almost as well as TDDFT. Both do well  
> with low-lying excited states.
> 
> e.g.
> Hutchison, G. R.; et. al. J. Phys. Chem. A 2002, 106, 10596.
> Fabian, J. Theor. Chem. Acc. 2001, 106, 199.
> 
> I'm sure there are similar "benchmark" studies too. (Although if  anyone 
> has similar comparative experiment vs. computed papers for  charged 
> organic species, I'd be grateful for references.)
> 
> -Geoff

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Guner, Osman
Kier, Lemont
Livingstone, David
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Raevsky, Oleg
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van de Waterbeemd, Han
Weintraub, Hershel
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<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">The following are the newly elected
members of the International QSAR and Modelling Society, who will be serving
during 2005 - 2010.</font>
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Charton, Marvin<br>
Cruciani, Gabriele<br>
do Amaral, Antonia Tavares<br>
Fujita, Toshio<br>
Guner, Osman<br>
Kier, Lemont<br>
Livingstone, David<br>
Martin, Yvonne C<br>
Montanari, Carlos Alberto<br>
Raevsky, Oleg<br>
Sener, Esin Aki<br>
van de Waterbeemd, Han<br>
Weintraub, Hershel<br>
Winkler, Dave</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">Congratulations to the new board mem=
bers.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">Osman F. G=FCner, Ph.D.<br>
Executive Director<br>
Cheminformatics and Rational Drug Design<br>
Accelrys Inc., &nbsp;858-799-5341<br>
osman _+_ accelrys.com, http://www.accelrys.com</font>
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David,

You interpreted my question correctly. Without going into the=20
experiment in detail ... we generate Li-(H2O)n clusters and record=20
their infrared spectrum. The source of Li- can potentially create Li-=20
anions in more than the lowest energy singlet state. It appears that=20
the symmetry of the clusters is not the same for different e spin=20
states on the Li- ... an excellent way to differentiate species in=20
vibrational spectroscopy. It would be nice to characterise the=20
different triplet states comprehensively.

Cheers,
Chris

On 14/06/2005, at 3:40 AM, Shobe, David wrote:

> Yes, but...I think he wants to study what would more correctly be=20
> called a particular=A0state of Li anion triplet.=A0
> =A0
> I don't remember how Gaussian treats the degeneracy of the three p=20
> orbitals.=A0 If Gaussian just arbitrarily picks one of the three p=20
> orbitals, no special manipulation is needed; but if the HOMO is a=20
> mixture of px, py, and pz it's a different story...
> =A0
>
> --David Shobe, Ph.D., M.L.S.
> S=FCd-Chemie, Inc.
> phone (502) 634-7409
> fax (502) 634-7724
>
> Don't bother flaming me: I'm behind a firewall.
>
> From: Computational Chemistry List [mailto:chemistry-request ^^^ ccl.net]=20=

> On Behalf Of Wayne Steinmetz
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:46 PM
> To: chemistry ^^^ ccl.net
> Subject: CCL:Defining orbitals
>
> The electrons belong to the entire atom and are not constrained to any=20=

> orbital.=A0 One uses orbitals to construct the wave function.=A0 One =
must=20
> be sure that the set of orbitals, i.e. the basis set, is sufficiently=20=

> flexible to describe completely the molecular species. =A0You are=20
> dealing with an atomic species so a polarization basis set is probably=20=

> not needed.
> =A0
> Wayne E. Steinmetz
> Carnegie Professor of Chemistry
> Woodbadge Course Director
> Chemistry Department
> Pomona College
> 645 North College Avenue
> Claremont, California 91711-6338
> USA
> phone: 1-909-621-8447
> FAX: 1-909-707-7726
> Email: wsteinmetz ^^^ pomona.edu
> WWW: pages.pomona.edu/~wsteinmetz
> =A0
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Computational Chemistry List [mailto:chemistry-request ^^^ ccl.net]=20=

> On Behalf Of Christopher Thompson
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 6:09 PM
> To: chemistry ^^^ ccl.net
> Subject: CCL:Defining orbitals
> =A0
> Gday,
> =A0
> I would like to do an MP2 calc on a Li- species in triplet state.
> =A0
> With one electron in the s orbital and one in a p orbital,
> how can you constrain the electron to say the px orbital?
> =A0
> Cheers,
> cdth ^^^ unimelb.edu.au
> =A0
> Christopher Thompson
> Laser Spectroscopy Group
> School of Chemistry
> University of Melbourne
Dr Christopher Thompson
Laser Spectroscopy Group
School of Chemistry
University of Melbourne
VIC, Australia, 3010.
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David,


You interpreted my question correctly. Without going into the
experiment in detail ... we generate Li-(H2O)n clusters and record
their infrared spectrum. The source of Li- can potentially create Li-
anions in more than the lowest energy singlet state. It appears that
the symmetry of the clusters is not the same for different e spin
states on the Li- ... an excellent way to differentiate species in
vibrational spectroscopy. It would be nice to characterise the
different triplet states comprehensively.


Cheers,

Chris


On 14/06/2005, at 3:40 AM, Shobe, David wrote:


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=A0

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don't remember how Gaussian treats the degeneracy of the three p
orbitals.=A0 If Gaussian just arbitrarily picks one of the three p
orbitals, no special manipulation is needed; but if the HOMO is a
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Inc.</x-tad-smaller></smaller></fontfamily></excerpt><excerpt>=20

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller><x-tad-smaller>phone (502)
634-7409</x-tad-smaller></smaller></fontfamily></excerpt><excerpt>=20

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller><x-tad-smaller>fax (502)
634-7724</x-tad-smaller></smaller></fontfamily></excerpt><excerpt>=20


<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller><x-tad-smaller>Don't bother
flaming me: I'm behind a
firewall.</x-tad-smaller></smaller></fontfamily></excerpt><excerpt>=20


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Computational Chemistry List [mailto:chemistry-request ^^^ ccl.net]
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electrons belong to the entire atom and are not constrained to any
orbital.=A0 One uses orbitals to construct the wave function.=A0 One =
must
be sure that the set of orbitals, i.e. the basis set, is sufficiently
flexible to describe completely the molecular species. =A0You are
dealing with an atomic species so a polarization basis set is probably
not needed.</x-tad-smaller></color></fontfamily>

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=
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=
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Course Director</x-tad-smaller></color></fontfamily>

=
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Department</x-tad-smaller></color></fontfamily>

=
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College</x-tad-smaller></color></fontfamily>

=
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-smaller>645
North College Avenue</x-tad-smaller></color></fontfamily>

=
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California 91711-6338</x-tad-smaller></color></fontfamily>

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=
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=
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-smaller>FAX:
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=
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=
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Computational Chemistry List [mailto:chemistry-request ^^^ ccl.net]
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<fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param><bigger>With one electron in
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<fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param><bigger>how can you
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<fontfamily><param>Lucida Grande</param><x-tad-smaller>Laser
Spectroscopy Group</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Lucida Grande</param><x-tad-smaller>School of
Chemistry</x-tad-smaller></fontfamily>

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=
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</bigger></fontfamily></excerpt><fontfamily><param>Lucida =
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Christopher Thompson

Laser Spectroscopy Group

School of Chemistry

University of Melbourne

VIC, Australia, 3010.

Ph. +61 3 8344 8163

Fax. +61 3 9347 5180</smaller></fontfamily>


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