From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 03:56:01 2006 From: "Ben Sattelle ben.sattelle^_^postgrad.manchester.ac.uk" To: CCL Subject: CCL: DFT for pi-pi Interaction? Message-Id: <-31186-060314035420-26952-kEKcGUzu402Gqrw1BGsY8A~~server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Ben Sattelle Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format="flowed" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:54:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Ben Sattelle [ben.sattelle . postgrad.manchester.ac.uk] hi, BH&H ... J Comput Chem 27: 491-504, 2006 ben. > Sent to CCL by: "Sue L" [chsue2004 .. yahoo.com] > Hi, > > Do you know any DFT method that describes well the pi-pi interaction > of the aromatic system? > > Thank you very much. > > Sue------------------------------------------------------------ Mr B.M. Sattelle, Room B8, Jackson's Mill, School of Chemical Engineering and Analytical Science (CEAS), The University of Manchester, PO Box 88, Sackville Street, Manchester, M60 1QD, UK. Tel: [+44] (0)161 306 8857 http://www.mib.ac.uk/ http://neon.ce.umist.ac.uk/ http://www.manchester.ac.uk/ceas ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 05:06:00 2006 From: "Dipankar Roy dipankarroy_-_iitb.ac.in" To: CCL Subject: CCL: DFT for pi-pi Interaction? Message-Id: <-31188-060314041735-5263-ZpeyRKOH5aCGNWmIKGZCDg . server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Dipankar Roy" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:00:22 +0530 (IST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Dipankar Roy" [dipankarroy{:}iitb.ac.in] Hi, Check the following articles: Journal of Chemical Physics 2005, 123 ,10, pp. 1-10 Journal of Physical Chemistry A 2005, 109 ,19, pp. 4209-4212 Chemical Physics Letters 2004, 397 (1-3), pp. 56-61 Chemical Physics Letters 2004, 394 (4-6), pp. 334-338 Chemistry - A European Journal 2004, 10, 4, pp 3423-3429 > Sent to CCL by: "Sue L" [chsue2004 .. yahoo.com] > Hi, > > Do you know any DFT method that describes well the pi-pi interaction of > the aromatic system? > > Thank you very much. > > Sue> > > > *********************************************** Dipankar Roy Graduate Student of Prof. R. B. Sunoj Computational Chemistry Laboratoty Dept. of Chemistry Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay India - 400076 Phone: +91-22-2576-4130(lab) *********************************************** GETTING A SIMPLE ANSWER FROM A PROFESSOR IS LIKE GETTING A THIMBLE OF WATER FROM A FIRE HYDRANT. - PROF. LEN SHAPIRO, NDSU From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 05:40:01 2006 From: "Jamie Platts platts::Cardiff.ac.uk" To: CCL Subject: CCL: DFT for pi-pi Interaction? Message-Id: <-31189-060314045401-18942-XfaojYv1GS1uykLLfKXHLg]^[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Jamie Platts" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:17:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Jamie Platts" [platts|,|Cardiff.ac.uk] Dear Sue We recently found such a method, as set out in Hybrid density functional theory for pi-stacking interactions: Application to benzenes, pyridines, and DNA bases, J. Comput. Chem., 2006, 27, 491-504. DOI 10.1002/jcc It seems this works by accident, cancelling errors in the HF and LDA exchange, but nonetheless works well for all cases we have been able to test. Let me know if you would like a reprint, Jamie ---------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Platts School of Chemistry Phone: +44 (0) 2920 874950 Cardiff University Email: platts.at.cf.ac.uk Park Place FAX: +44 (0) 2920 874030 Cardiff CF10 3AT www.cf.ac.uk/chemy >>> owner-chemistry_._ccl.net 03/14/06 5:02 am >>> Sent to CCL by: "Sue L" [chsue2004 .. yahoo.com] Hi, Do you know any DFT method that describes well the pi-pi interaction of the aromatic system? Thank you very much. Sue From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 06:15:00 2006 From: "Stefan Grimme grimmes]~[uni-muenster.de" To: CCL Subject: CCL: DFT for pi-pi Interaction? Message-Id: <-31190-060314053026-11767-uKxuO21mT4w7naKs8bEBYw*_*server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Stefan Grimme Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:27:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Stefan Grimme [grimmes##uni-muenster.de] On Tuesday 14 March 2006 05:31, Sue L chsue2004!A!yahoo.com wrote: > Sent to CCL by: "Sue L" [chsue2004 .. yahoo.com] > Hi, > > Do you know any DFT method that describes well the pi-pi interaction of the > aromatic system? > > Thank you very much. > > Sue Standard functionals like B-LYP or PBE with a C6*R-6 dispersion correction, see e.g. S. Grimme, Accurate description of van der Waals complexes by density functional theory including empirical corrections, J. Comput. Chem. 25, (2004), 1463-1476 and ref. therein. Regards Stefan ____________________________________________________________ Prof. Dr. Stefan Grimme Organisch-Chemisches Institut (Abt. Theoretische Chemie) Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet, Corrensstrasse 40 D-48149 Muenster, Tel (+49)-251-83 36512/33241/36515(Fax) Email:grimmes|uni-muenster.de http://www.uni-muenster.de/Chemie/OC/research/grimme/ ____________________________________________________________ From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 06:51:01 2006 From: "Dufaure Corinne corinne_dufaure[-]yahoo.fr" To: CCL Subject: CCL: bond energy Message-Id: <-31191-060314060231-1125-htjth6KDOE13Obn5B+J3vg|*|server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Dufaure Corinne Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1424006722-1142330544=:28364" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:02:24 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Dufaure Corinne [corinne_dufaure**yahoo.fr] --0-1424006722-1142330544=:28364 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello, I want to calculate the energy of a O-O bond in an organic molecule. As the molecule is bicyclic, I can not calculate the E of two isolated fragments resulting from the scission of the O-O bond. Moreover, the scission is homolitic resulting in a biradical O*-O*. I would like to use DFT. Could you give me advice? thanks, sincerely, Cd --------------------------------- Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Téléchargez la version beta. --0-1424006722-1142330544=:28364 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
hello,
 
I want to calculate the energy of a O-O bond in an organic molecule.
As the molecule is bicyclic, I can not calculate the E of two isolated fragments resulting from the scission of the O-O bond. Moreover, the scission is homolitic resulting in a biradical O*-O*.
I would like to use DFT.
 
Could you give me advice?
thanks, sincerely,
 
Cd


Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez la version beta. --0-1424006722-1142330544=:28364-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 07:36:00 2006 From: "Jim Kress ccl_nospam-.-kressworks.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Calculation of ESR/ EPR spectra Message-Id: <-31192-060313185745-1350-fE7tG0lkSCTbly3TLJjdoA(~)server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Jim Kress" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:57:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [ccl_nospam__kressworks.com] Anybody know of (preferably) free software that interfaces with GAMESS/ PCGAMESS and calculates ESR/EPR spectra? Thanks. Jim From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 08:10:00 2006 From: "Jim Kress ccl_nospam[-]kressworks.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: DFT for pi-pi Interaction? Message-Id: <-31193-060314073922-22989-dFVibU3rWcLnB2XFtu5dhg|*|server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Jim Kress" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:39:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [ccl_nospam[#]kressworks.com] Hybrid Meta Density Functional Theory Methods for Thermochemistry, Thermochemical Kinetics, and Noncovalent Interactions: The MPW1B95 and MPWB1K Models and Comparative Assessments for Hydrogen Bonding and van der Waals Interactions http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/article.cgi/jpcafh/2004/108/i33/pdf/jp048147q.pd f Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue L chsue2004!A!yahoo.com [mailto:owner-chemistry : ccl.net] > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:47 PM > To: Kress, Jim > Subject: CCL: DFT for pi-pi Interaction? > > Sent to CCL by: "Sue L" [chsue2004 .. yahoo.com] Hi, > > Do you know any DFT method that describes well the pi-pi > interaction of the aromatic system? > > Thank you very much. > > Sue > > > > -= This is automatically added to each message by the mailing > script =- To recover the email address of the author of the > message, please change the strange characters on the top line > to the : sign. You can also look up the X-Original-From: line > in the mail header.> Conferences: > http://server.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ > > Search Messages: http://www.ccl.net/htdig (login: ccl, > Password: search)> > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 08:45:00 2006 From: "Jim Kress ccl_nospam..kressworks.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: DFT for pi-pi Interaction? Message-Id: <-31194-060314074936-27282-UP5Mfr8K7lAv18J3vP2grw{=}server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Jim Kress" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:47:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [ccl_nospam a kressworks.com] Also, in the latest JCTC: Design of Density Functionals by Combining the Method of Constraint Satisfaction with Parametrization for Thermochemistry, Thermochemical Kinetics, and Noncovalent Interactions Yan Zhao, Nathan E. Schultz, and Donald G. Truhlar http://dx.doi.org/10.1021/ct0502763 Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue L chsue2004!A!yahoo.com [mailto:owner-chemistry||ccl.net] > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:47 PM > To: Kress, Jim > Subject: CCL: DFT for pi-pi Interaction? > > Sent to CCL by: "Sue L" [chsue2004 .. yahoo.com] Hi, > > Do you know any DFT method that describes well the pi-pi > interaction of the aromatic system? > > Thank you very much. > > Sue > > > > -= This is automatically added to each message by the mailing > script =- To recover the email address of the author of the > message, please change the strange characters on the top line > to the || sign. You can also look up the X-Original-From: line > in the mail header.> Conferences: > http://server.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ > > Search Messages: http://www.ccl.net/htdig (login: ccl, > Password: search)> > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 09:20:03 2006 From: "Qadir Timerghazin Qadir.Timerghazin|a|CERMM.Concordia.CA" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Dalton software Message-Id: <-31195-060313221210-4229-a4e1RSOr9LFRD2BhHkgQbg_._server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Qadir Timerghazin Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:35:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Qadir Timerghazin [Qadir.Timerghazin~~CERMM.Concordia.CA] Yes, I compiled Dalton successfully on Opteron machine using the latest Intel Fortran and C compilers; all tests run fine, save usual walk_vibav and rsp tests. The compilation process went smoothly, without any manual intervention, usual "./configure; make". The OS is Suse 9.1. Qadir On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 08:42:17PM -0500, igor novak upper_peirce!A!yahoo.com wrote: > Sent to CCL by: "igor novak" [upper_peirce]-[yahoo.com] > Dear CCL netters, > has anybody compiled Dalton code for AMD64 Athlon CPU?? > Regards > I.Novak > > -- ****************************************************** Qadir K. Timerghazin Centre for Research in Molecular Modeling (CERMM) Concordia University Richard J. Renaud Science Complex 7141 Sherbrooke St.West Montréal, Québec, CANADA H4B 1R6 Phone: (514) 848 2424 x3336 ****************************************************** From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 09:55:00 2006 From: "Alfred Gil agil . cesca.es" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: SVD failed for GenInv Error in G03.C02 Message-Id: <-31196-060314040354-31321-uNy46x+EILo1kNckC1/Z/g(a)server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Alfred Gil" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:03:52 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "Alfred Gil" [agil/a\cesca.es] Hello, I am running a pcm solvent calculation in g03 (rev c02) with the following parameters opt(modredundant,maxcycle=100) ub3lyp/6-31g(d,p) scrf=(solvent=water,pcm) From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 10:30:01 2006 From: "Gerhard Wolber wolber!A!inteligand.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: New: LigandScout 1.0 Pharmacophore Generator Message-Id: <-31197-060314083457-24505-MTkjJNU8Q9bONDTWrN6TPA^_^server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Gerhard Wolber" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:34:52 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "Gerhard Wolber" [wolber]~[inteligand.com] Dear colleagues, we would like to announce our new 3D pharmacophore creation tool LigandScout 1.0. It facilitates the creation of structure-based 3D pharmacophores for virtual screening, and allows the combination and comparison of several pharmacophores from similar complexes. An efficient molecular alignment using pharmacophore points within a full-featured graphical user-interface allows sophisticated pharmacophore analysis and fine-tuning to create selective pharmacophoric screening filters for a specific purpose. 3D pharmacophore information can be exported to a still growing number of screening platforms. More information along with an on-line manual can be found on our website (http://www.inteligand.com/ligandscout), as well as an evaluation version for download (http://www.inteligand.com/ligandscout/download.shtml). Software grants for academic institutions are available. We would appreciate your feed-back including feature requests and comments. Best regards, Gerhard Wolber -- Gerhard Wolber, PhD Executive Partner, Technology Inte:Ligand GmbH Mariahilferstrasse 74B/11 1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 19:38:00 2006 From: "Christopher David Thompson cdth:-:unimelb.edu.au" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Transition State Search Message-Id: <-31198-060314193251-21329-UBH7XGzTCl+f5jSnjyxM3Q#server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Christopher David Thompson" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:32:49 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "Christopher David Thompson" [cdth===unimelb.edu.au] Gday, I'm attempting a transition state search using the following route line; opt=qst2 mp2 geom=connectivity aug-cc-pvdz The two starting geometries are local minima on the surface. The job is quickly terminating at this point; New curvilinear step not converged. ***** Convergence failure in GTrans ***** Try using 3 structures as input for QST transition state search Thoughts? What 3rd structure would be suitable here? Cheers, Chris From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Mar 14 22:08:01 2006 From: "Sengen Sun sengensun:yahoo.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: ORGLIST: A breakthrough in mechanism of concerted Message-Id: <-31199-060314210449-22941-9rDjRORZGea7S+n2+5oVKg:+:server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Sengen Sun Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:04:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Sengen Sun [sengensun=-=yahoo.com] Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:07:12 -0800 (PST) > From: Sengen Sun Subject: Re: ORGLIST: A breakthrough in mechanism of concerted To: everybody]-[orglist.net Dear Ravi, I sincerely welcome your comments. But the issues you and I raised here really deserve a public debate in the ORGLIST. I welcome every one to participate. In my opinion, the issues here are entirely the confusion we have had for the last half century. I'd like to start with some remarks I made in CCL in 2003. http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/message-new?2003+06+02+016 "...Fukui & Hoffmann well deserved 1981 Nobel prize due to their discovery of the correlation between MOs and chemical reactivity. But I don t think that everything they said is correct. We must criticize their mistakes hard without mercy. Their mistakes could have too much negative impacts on our scientific community due to their high profiles, especially on experimental chemists with little theoretical knowledge." I feel it is much easier to convince many theoretical chemists than experimentalists that W-H rules are no more than a very useful mathematical tool for predicition of reaction products. Hoffmann once asked a very funny question something like "Should experimental chemists TRUST theoreticians?" (not the exact words, but see Theochem 1998, 424:1-6) I do not have a beter way to explain, but let me give you recent one of particular examples of conceptual confusion made by Hoffmann (See JACS, 2002, 124, 6836, Scheme 1, I will forward this article to any one if requested by e-mail). There, the intramolecular proton transfer was mistakenly treated as hydride transfer. That is, the arrows should be drawn in the exactly opposite direction. I would be bad if I were just exaggerating some accidental errors. This is not an accidental error. Such a mistake derived from our mental assumption of orbital control, so that well-established acid-base theory in chemistry can be overturned but by a high profile Nobel Laureate! To me, his philosophy is that arrows can be arbitrarily drawn due to orbital control! I do not mind if you call me an attacker. But I have a high expectation to a Nobel Laureate. Such a kind of conceptual mistakes in JACS are unacceptable and should be corrected by the authors! For more, please see my ppt file: http://www.ccl.net/cca/documents/ConcertedCycloadditons_2/ By the way, I am proud of myself, while Bader would be proud of nothing about me as asserted by Ravi. I am sure that Bader does not know who I am although I did my Ph.D. at McMaster in organic chemistry (1989-1994). But I have known him for 20+ years and have admired his philosophy of QM ever since. Regards, Sengen > > > --- Ravi Orugunty wrote: > > > Dear Sengen, > > I have missed out on the earlier part of your > > messages wrt to a breakthrough > > in mechanism of concerted reactions. However i > will > > try to answer the > > questions that you have raised without resorting > to > > any metaphors. > > Hopefully this might help. > > Q) What is the mechanism of a chemical reaction? > > A) Any idea/theory that sufficiently explains the > > bonds that are broken and > > formed during the course of any chemical process > is > > a mechanism of that > > chemical reaction. > > Mankind likes to organize its ideas so that it can > > understand nature and > > therby harness it to some useful work and this is > > also true for mechanisms > > in chemistry. Granted that we really dont need to > > know the mechanism in > > sufficient detail to get a reaction to work . Two > > examples will be provided > > to sufficiently buttress the above statement. > > Undergraduates in chemistry > > for the most part when they start their first lab > > rarely know the mechanism > > of a Grignard reaction but are able to perform the > > reactions in a lab (Good > > supervision is essential though). Prehistoric man > > had no idea about the > > mechanism of reductions and electron transfer and > > yet was highly successful > > in smelting and purifying iron and other metals. > > It is perhaps from those early discoveries, that > > lead man to further > > investigate and understand nature. More so > > understand nature in terms that > > would make sense of a myriad of processess that > were > > observed in daily life. > > It is from these observations the language of > > chemistry evolved and is > > taught as mechanism and theory of chemistry in any > > modern class. > > In that respect i do agree with you that > mechanisms > > and theories are no more > > than a language used by chemists to communicate > > their ideas. > > > > Q)Are mechanisms of chemical reactions important > in > > chemistry. > > A) Yes, mechanisms are important not to perform > > chemical reactions (see the > > example of prehistoric man) but are extremely > > neccessary to understand > > chemical processess. Once one has a better > > undertanding of any process one > > can develop newer reactions and thereby new > products > > etc. Therefore the > > language of mechanisms has its utility. > > > > Q) Was the mechanism of concerted cycloadditions > > well > > established before at the theoretical level? > > A) We havent established a chronological time > here > > but i will answer it > > without any metaphors. When Diels and Alder > > published their first papers > > (around 1910 or so). The mechanism of concerted > > reaction was not known. In > > fact, the electronic theory of chemical bonds was > > being developed by G.N. > > Lewis and others( i hope my memory serves me right > > here so please correct me > > if i'm mistaken). However as our knowledge of > > matter progressed with time, > > Woodward-Hoffman and Fukui developed the modern > > rules for cycloadditions and > > they seem to have served mankind in particular > > organic chemists pretty well. > > Have these rules stood the test of time? Yes. Any > > process that violates the > > W-H theory can be explained using an alternate > > mechanism that would not > > require the use of the conservation of molecular > > orbitals. The "hypnotic > > effect" of W-H rules are in their elegance in > > predicting the feasability of > > a thermaly catalyzed cycloaddition reaction based > on > > orbital overlap. > > Q)Do my computational data tell us some new > > knowledge > > of electronic reorganization - the mechanism? > > (Please, > > do not tell me to use your favored computational > > approach unless you can use your approach to prove > I > > am wrong!) > > A) Cant reply to this question? I'm not a great > > believer of doing > > extraordinary computation as i consider myself to > be > > an experimentalist. > > For me the proof is invariably in the pudding ( a > > metaphor for a change ) > > this is particularly true when one is dealing with > > peptides and complesx > > biological systems. > > > > If you have a new theory share it with your fellow > > scientists by all means. > > > > Facts are observed truths for example matter, > > energy, gravity and everything > > else under the sun that nature presents before us. > > Theories are explainations given by mankind. > > Gravity existed long before > > Newton explained it and the same is true for > > cycloadditions. So take it > > easy. > > As to wether you choose to publish or not is > > entirely your choice. However, > > I would encourage you to put forth your ideas > before > > your peers and learn > > from what they have to say and make professor > Bader > > proud. > > Hope this helps. Good luck > > ravi > > > > > > I sincerely welcome the comments and suggestions > by > > Yuehui and other two people. I'd like to address > > Yuehui's for now as I am too busy to reply to > every > > one. > > > > As I argued in two interenational sympossiums in > > 2005, > > prediction and explanation are two different > things > > conceptually. Some theories do contain both of > them, > > but some others do not. Woodward-Hoffmann rules > are > > a > > very valuable predicting theory derived from a > > pattern > > of mathematical operations. It is my strong > opinion > > that W-H rules are not equivalent to an > explanation > > as > > neither is FMO theory. Dewar called the W-H to > have > > "hypnotic effect", which I could not agree more. > The > > reality is that no one understands how "they > > explain". > > The discussions via revolutionary internet > > communications in CCL have led more and more > > scientists to accept that "orbitals are a means to > > an > > end", which I learned initially from Prof. Richard > > Bader at McMaster University. How do you > understand > > an > > explanation that is based on something of no > > understandable physical meaning? > > > > I had tortured myself over and over again for > years > > before I convinced myself that I have made "a > > breakthrough in mechanism of concerted > > cycloadditions". Now I have the confidence to > defend > > such a statement. If you don't agree, I'd like to > > ask > > you to calm down and to address the following > > questions in concise languages without metaphors: > > > > 1. What is mechanism of chemical reactions? > > > > 2. Are mechanisms of chemical reactions important > in > > chemistry. > > > > 3. Was the mechanism of concerted cycloadditions > > well > > established before at the theoretical level? > > > > 4. Do my computational data tell us some new > > knowledge > > of electronic reorganization - the mechanism? > > (Please, > > do not tell me to use your favored computational > > approach unless you can use your approach to prove > I > > am wrong!) > > > > My theory is about how electrons to move in a > > concerted reaction. I don't agree with Yuehui that > a > > theory must be able to predict. "The earth > revolves > > around the sun" is a theory on paper but a fact in > > the > > nature. > > > > I could not publish my papers, and I don't need > one. > > I > > don't make a living from publications (as advised > by > > Einstein? -:). But the knowledge if correct will > > benefit the human society one way or the other. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Sengen > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > ORGLIST - Organic Chemistry Mailing List > Website / Archive / FAQ: http://www.orglist.net > To post a message (TO EVERYBODY) send to > everybody]-[orglist.net > To unsubscribe, send to > everybody-request]-[orglist.net the message: > unsubscribe your_orglist_password your_address > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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