From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Aug 18 04:14:01 2009 From: "hirdesh kumar hirdeshs8\a/gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: 3-D structure of cell membrane Message-Id: <-40018-090818041155-24456-uXPi43NC3TTbL0aCjTxPPg##server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: hirdesh kumar Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64aee81ac704004716611df Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:41:43 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: hirdesh kumar [hirdeshs8/a\gmail.com] --0016e64aee81ac704004716611df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear All, I want to analyse the physico-chemical properties of cell membrane and for the same i need the 3-D structure of cell membrane. Is there anyone who can help me regarding the same? Is it available in PDB database.. Thank You in advance Regards, Hirdesh --0016e64aee81ac704004716611df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0016e64aee81ac704004716611df-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Aug 18 05:16:01 2009 From: "Andreas Bick andreas.bick.:.scienomics.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Metropolis/Monte-Carlo tutorial Message-Id: <-40019-090818045609-12052-YtojAK7F0qQud68CROfmnw()server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Andreas Bick Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:14:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Andreas Bick [andreas.bick{=}scienomics.com] Dear Kass, you might want to try Towhee: http://towhee.sourceforge.net/ Best regards Andreas > Hi all, > > Is there any good sites where I could find tutorials, algorithms for > Metropolis/Monte Carlo techniques in chemistry. > > Thanks all, > > Cheers > > Kass -- Dr. Andreas Bick Scienomics SARL Sales and Marketing phone: +492311385847 mobile: +4916096873623 From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Aug 18 09:27:00 2009 From: "John Chao f93223037{=}ntu.edu.tw" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Does any one use program HELFIT before? Message-Id: <-40020-090818052252-25831-em5pTxP4vAx7vF19ejgd+A=-=server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "John Chao" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:22:48 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "John Chao" [f93223037- -ntu.edu.tw] Dear CCL members, HELFIT: Helix tting by a total least squares method Computational Biology and Chemistry 32 (2008) 307310 I found nothing from the website given in the paper and so do those google results. Does anyone know how am I able to download it? I also emailed the author but getting no reply so far. Any other suggestion is also great, especially concerning about helix-fitting in space using several Cartesian Coordinates (and package source). Regards, John Chao 2009.08.18. ================================ John Ching-Hao Chao (JCH Chao) Email Address: f93223037#,#ntu.edu.tw ssNMR Lab in Dept. of Chemistry National Taiwan University No. 1, Sec. 4, Roosevelt Road, Taipei, Taiwan, R.O.C. ================================ From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Aug 18 10:05:01 2009 From: "Toomas Tamm toomas^_^yki.ttu.ee" To: CCL Subject: CCL: ZINDO Documentation Message-Id: <-40021-090817123058-6912-aoybm8YKoraG/1IlD8zxMA-#-server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Toomas Tamm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:32:57 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Toomas Tamm [toomas]~[yki.ttu.ee] Hello all! As one of the last people who worked on the Zindo code between 1994 and 1996, I also have a set of manuals (including documentation of some of the internals of the code). I sent them to Jan for posting to the document archive. -- Toomas Tamm e-mail: tt-ccl2 (at) kky . ttu . ee Chair of Inorganic Chemistry voice: INT+372-620-2810 Tallinn University of Technology fax: INT+372-620-2828 Ehitajate tee 5, EE-19086 Tallinn, Estonia http://www.kk.ttu.ee/toomas/ On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 18:09 -0400, Jan Labanowski janla/speakeasy.net wrote: > Sent to CCL by: Jan Labanowski [janl++speakeasy.net] > Serge Gorelsky wrote: > > Hi, I happen to have the ZINDO manual from Mike Zerner (dated before > > 1999). See the attached text file. S.G. > > Serge, > > Since CCL scripts did not like the attachment (yes, they are paranoid) I placed > the copy of the ZINDO manual that was in your attachment on the CCL Web site in > Document Archive page, namely: > > > http://www.ccl.net/cca/documents/ZINDO_manual_1996.txt > > Jan> > From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Aug 18 17:42:01 2009 From: "kadir kadir*|*visual1.chem.pitt.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: And now something completely different! Message-Id: <-40022-090818170458-15025-OH3oD4NwFSmlcnXP0Y2nxQ^server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: kadir Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:15:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: kadir [kadir..visual1.chem.pitt.edu] Dear Friends and Colleagues, Please check out our short (4 min 16 sec) educational film explaining the interaction of molecules with light using non-traditional visualization tools. "Shine a light": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceoO18RTiZI Like it? Please vote on it on Digg: http://digg.com/general_sciences/Shine_A_Light_4 And don't miss the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYjoEvRpVbI&feature=video_response When your friends or relatives ask why pchem research is so much fun, just show them the film! Enjoy and share! kadir Kadir Diri, PhD Research Scientist Department of Chemistry and iOpenShell Center SSC #426 University of Southern California Los Angeles, CA 90089-0482 -------------------------- Relativistic correction to Murphy's law: Whether things can go wrong or not, depends on your frame of reference. From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Aug 18 19:41:01 2009 From: "lyzhao lyzhao###zjnu.cn" To: CCL Subject: CCL: ZINDO Documentation Message-Id: <-40023-090818193920-22842-Vj2MaYDSxCq7XZsOMHmBxg[]server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "lyzhao" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:39:06 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "lyzhao" [lyzhao{}zjnu.cn] Dear All, Thank Tamm and Jan for sharing the ZINDO Docs, but who can share the "Original" ZINDO Source Code. Best regards!! Youzhao Lan ======================================================== > From:Toomas Tamm toomas^_^yki.ttu.ee Date:2009-08-18 22:35:26 To:Lan, Youzhao Cc: Subject:CCL: ZINDO Documentation Sent to CCL by: Toomas Tamm [toomas]~[yki.ttu.ee] Hello all! As one of the last people who worked on the Zindo code between 1994 and 1996, I also have a set of manuals (including documentation of some of the internals of the code). I sent them to Jan for posting to the document archive. -- Toomas Tamm e-mail: tt-ccl2 (at) kky . ttu . ee Chair of Inorganic Chemistry voice: INT+372-620-2810 Tallinn University of Technology fax: INT+372-620-2828 Ehitajate tee 5, EE-19086 Tallinn, Estonia http://www.kk.ttu.ee/toomas/ On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 18:09 -0400, Jan Labanowski janla/speakeasy.net wrote: > Sent to CCL by: Jan Labanowski [janl++speakeasy.net] > Serge Gorelsky wrote: > > Hi, I happen to have the ZINDO manual from Mike Zerner (dated before > > 1999). See the attached text file. S.G. > > Serge, > > Since CCL scripts did not like the attachment (yes, they are paranoid) I placed > the copy of the ZINDO manual that was in your attachment on the CCL Web site in > Document Archive page, namely: > > > http://www.ccl.net/cca/documents/ZINDO_manual_1996.txt > > Janhttp://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Aug 18 21:51:01 2009 From: "John McKelvey jmmckel||gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: ZINDO Documentation Message-Id: <-40024-090818214814-29181-YsFspdSk0tyOl+WKMfqfyA*_*server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: John McKelvey Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed6b81cd1ea8047174d294 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:47:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: John McKelvey [jmmckel ~ gmail.com] --001636ed6b81cd1ea8047174d294 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I fear that no one can. Current people who have a copy of the source can not even report that they used the code by name without buying a license. As I understand it instead they have to cite the papers upon which the methodologies in ZINDO were developed and tested. John McKelvey On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:39 PM, lyzhao lyzhao###zjnu.cn < owner-chemistry(~)ccl.net> wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "lyzhao" [lyzhao{}zjnu.cn] > Dear All, > Thank Tamm and Jan for sharing the ZINDO Docs, but who can share the > "Original" ZINDO Source Code. > > Best regards!! > Youzhao Lan > ======================================================== > > > From:Toomas Tamm toomas^_^yki.ttu.ee > Date:2009-08-18 22:35:26 > To:Lan, Youzhao > Cc: > Subject:CCL: ZINDO Documentation > > > Sent to CCL by: Toomas Tamm [toomas]~[yki.ttu.ee] > Hello all! > > As one of the last people who worked on the Zindo code between 1994 and > 1996, I also have a set of manuals (including documentation of some of > the internals of the code). I sent them to Jan for posting to the > document archive. > > -- > Toomas Tamm e-mail: tt-ccl2 (at) kky . ttu > . ee > Chair of Inorganic Chemistry voice: INT+372-620-2810 > Tallinn University of Technology fax: INT+372-620-2828 > Ehitajate tee 5, EE-19086 Tallinn, Estonia http://www.kk.ttu.ee/toomas/ > > > > > On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 18:09 -0400, Jan Labanowski janla/speakeasy.net > wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: Jan Labanowski [janl++speakeasy.net] > > Serge Gorelsky wrote: > > > Hi, I happen to have the ZINDO manual from Mike Zerner (dated before > > > 1999). See the attached text file. S.G. > > > > Serge, > > > > Since CCL scripts did not like the attachment (yes, they are paranoid) I > placed > > the copy of the ZINDO manual that was in your attachment on the CCL Web > site in > > Document Archive page, namely: > > > > > > http://www.ccl.net/cca/documents/ZINDO_manual_1996.txt > > > > Janhttp:// > www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt> > > -- John McKelvey 10819 Middleford Pl Ft Wayne, IN 46818 260-489-2160 jmmckel(~)gmail.com --001636ed6b81cd1ea8047174d294 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,

I fear that no one can.=A0 Current people who have a copy of = the source can not even report that they used the code by name without buyi= ng a license.=A0 As I understand it instead they have to cite the papers up= on which the methodologies in ZINDO were developed and tested.=A0

John McKelvey


On Tue, Aug 18, 200= 9 at 7:39 PM, lyzhao lyzhao###zjnu.cn <owner-chemistry(~)= ccl.net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: "lyzhao" [lyzhao{}zjnu.cn]
Dear All,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Thank Tamm and Jan for sharing the ZINDO Docs, but who can = share the "Original" ZINDO Source Code.

Best regards!!
Youzhao Lan
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> From:Toomas Tamm toomas^_^yki.ttu.ee
Date:2009-08-18 22:35:26
To:Lan, Youzhao
Cc:
Subject:CCL: ZINDO Documentation


Sent to CCL by: Toomas Tamm [toomas]~[yki.ttu.ee]
Hello all!

As one of the last people who worked on the Zindo code between 1994 and
1996, I also have a set of manuals (including documentation of some of
the internals of the code). I sent them to Jan for posting to the
document archive.

--
Toomas Tamm =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= e-mail: tt-ccl2 (at) kky . ttu . ee
Chair of Inorganic Chemistry =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0voice: =A0INT+3= 72-620-2810
Tallinn University of Technology =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0fax: =A0 =A0INT+372= -620-2828
Ehitajate tee 5, EE-19086 Tallinn, Estonia =A0http://www.kk.ttu.ee/toomas/




On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 18:09 -0400, Jan Labanowski janla/speakeasy.net
wrote:
> Sent to CCL by: Jan Labanowski [janl++speakeasy.net]
> Serge Gorelsky wrote:
> > Hi, I happen to have the ZINDO manual from Mike Zerner (dated bef= ore
> > 1999). See the attached text file. S.G.
>
> Serge,
>
> Since CCL scripts did not like the attachment (yes, they are paranoid)= I placed
> the copy of the ZINDO manual that was in your attachment on the CCL We= b site in
> Document Archive page, namely:
>
>
> http://www.ccl.net/cca/documents/ZINDO_manual_1996.txt >
> Janhttp://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.ne= t/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt


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