Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:30:21 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Savita Pundlik [savita.pundlik|*|tcs.com]

Hello Abhishek,

I think population analysis (rather than energy decomposition) will gi= ve some idea about covalency against ionicity.

Desides this, the strength of covalent bond may also be judged by meas= uring density at the bond critical point.

Good luck,

Savita Pundlik=
Tata Consultancy Services
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Dear All,

&nb= sp; Is there any computational method to calculate covalency of= a particular bond ? In many article, It has been seen that this particular= bond have some percentage of covalency and ionicity as well. Will energy d= ecomposition method be helpful here ? What else a bond contains besides cov= alency and ionicity ? Please give your suggestion considering weak interact= ion along with covalent bond. Thanks a lot.

Wish you a = Merry Christmas and may this festival bring abundant joy and happi= ness in your life!

Regards : ABHISHEK SHAHI
Research Scholar
Inorganic and Physical Chemistry
India= n Institute Of Science
Bangalore-12

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From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Nov 26 07:33:01 2012 From: "Sergio Galembeck segalemb~~usp.br" To: CCL Subject: CCL: covalency and ionicity Message-Id: <-47914-121126072824-11300-JVLtJJ7KtV5RjlBkqkjqXA]_[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Sergio Galembeck Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EDB7F9C0-087F-4CA8-9B30-1E72C0EA50A3" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:28:06 -0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Sent to CCL by: Sergio Galembeck [segalemb=-=usp.br] --Apple-Mail=_EDB7F9C0-087F-4CA8-9B30-1E72C0EA50A3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear Abhishek, You can use any energy decomposition analysis and you will obtain = indirectly the covalency and ionicity of a bond. A direct determination = is made by using the natural bond orders, implemented in NBO 5.0. Best regards, Sergio O n 26/11/2012, at 05:00, Savita Pundlik savita.pundlik++tcs.com = wrote: > Sent to CCL by: Savita Pundlik [savita.pundlik|*|tcs.com] > Hello Abhishek, > =20 > I think population analysis (rather than energy decomposition) will = give some idea about covalency against ionicity. > Desides this, the strength of covalent bond may also be judged by = measuring density at the bond critical point. > =20 > Good luck, > =20 > Savita Pundlik > Tata Consultancy Services > Mailto: savita.pundlik^^tcs.com > Website: http://www.tcs.com >=20 >=20 > -----owner-chemistry+savita.pundlik=3D=3Dtcs.com^^ccl.net wrote: ----- > To: "Pundlik, Savita Sunil " > From: "ABHISHEK SHAHI shahi.abhishek1984/a\gmail.com"=20 > Sent by: owner-chemistry+savita.pundlik=3D=3Dtcs.com^^ccl.net > Date: 11/26/2012 10:46AM > Subject: CCL: covalency and ionicity >=20 > Dear All,=20 >=20 > Is there any computational method to calculate covalency of a = particular bond ? In many article, It has been seen that this particular = bond have some percentage of covalency and ionicity as well. Will energy = decomposition method be helpful here ? What else a bond contains besides = covalency and ionicity ? Please give your suggestion considering weak = interaction along with covalent bond. Thanks a lot.=20 >=20 > Wish you a Merry Christmas and may this festival bring abundant joy = and happiness in your life! >=20 > Regards :=20 > ABHISHEK SHAHI > Research Scholar > Inorganic and Physical Chemistry > Indian Institute Of Science > Bangalore-12=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D-----=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D-----=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Notice: The information contained in this e-mail > message and/or attachments to it may contain=20 > confidential or privileged information. If you are=20 > not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use,=20 > review, distribution, printing or copying of the=20 > information contained in this e-mail message=20 > and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If=20 > you have received this communication in error,=20 > please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and=20 > immediately and permanently delete the message=20 > and any attachments. Thank you >=20 >=20 > - This is automatically added to each message by the mailing script =3D-= To recover the email address of the author of the message, please = change the strange characters on the top line to the __ sign. You can = alsoE-mail to = subscribers: CHEMISTRY__ccl.net or use: =E-mail to = administrators: CHEMISTRY-REQUEST__ccl.net or use ==Before posting, check wait = time at: http://www.ccl.netConferences: = http://server.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ Search = Messages: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/searchccl/index.shtml If your = mail bounces from CCL with 5.7.1 error, check: =RTFI: = http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/aboutccl/instructions/ --Apple-Mail=_EDB7F9C0-087F-4CA8-9B30-1E72C0EA50A3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

You can use any energy decomposition = analysis and you will obtain indirectly the covalency and ionicity of a = bond. A direct determination is made

by using the natural bond orders, implemented in = NBO 5.0.

= Best regards,

= = Sergio

O = n 26/11/2012, at 05:00, Savita Pundlik savita.pundlik++tcs.com <owner-chemistry__ccl.net> = wrote:

Sent to CCL by: Savita Pundlik [savita.pundlik|*|tcs.com]
Hello Abhishek,

I think population analysis (rather than energy decomposition) will = give some idea about covalency against ionicity.

Desides this, the strength of covalent bond may also be judged by = measuring density at the bond critical point.

Good luck,

Savita = Pundlik
Tata Consultancy = Services
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Dear All, =

Is there any computational method = to calculate covalency of a particular bond ? In many article, It has = been seen that this particular bond have some percentage of covalency = and ionicity as well. Will energy decomposition method be helpful here ? = What else a bond contains besides covalency and ionicity ? Please give = your suggestion considering weak interaction along with covalent bond. = Thanks a lot.

Wish = you a Merry Christmas and may this festival bring abundant joy = and happiness in your = life!

Regards :
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Research Scholar
Inorganic and Physical = Chemistry
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= --Apple-Mail=_EDB7F9C0-087F-4CA8-9B30-1E72C0EA50A3-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Nov 26 08:07:00 2012 From: "Vijay Solomon vijaysolomon_2005]~[yahoo.co.in" To: CCL Subject: CCL: covalency and ionicity Message-Id: <-47915-121126022616-24283-kkED8Vpic2zePE35rY/hUw]|[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Vijay Solomon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-886612536-2098345757-1353914767=:83733" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:26:07 +0800 (SGT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Vijay Solomon [vijaysolomon_2005|-|yahoo.co.in] ---886612536-2098345757-1353914767=:83733 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear abhishek,=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Yes, you are right, EDA (Energy Decomposition Analysi= s) will be very useful in understanding the covalent/ionic character of a c= hemical bond and you can also see G. Frenking's publications for further de= tails. Regarding the weak interactions, u can also go for SAPT analysis whi= ch includes the dispersion terms along with other attraction and repulsion = terms. =0A=0A=0ACheers,=0A=0Avijay solomon. r=0A=0A=0A=A0=0A=A0wherever you= go leave your best and the best will follow you=0A=0A_____________________= ___________=0A=0AVijay Solomon.R=0ASwiss Federal Commission Fellow =0ADepar= tment of Chemistry=0A=0AUniversity of Basel=0AKlingelbergstrasse 80=0ACH-40= 56 Basel, Switzerland =0Amore details=A0=A0http://vjsolo.weebly.com=0A=0A__= ______________________________=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________= =0A From: ABHISHEK SHAHI shahi.abhishek1984/agmail.com =0ATo: "Solomon, Vijay " =0ASe= nt: Monday, 26 November 2012 9:49 AM=0ASubject: CCL: covalency and ionicity= =0A =0A=0ADear All, =0A=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Is there any computational method= to calculate covalency of a particular bond ? In many article, It has been= seen that this particular bond have some percentage of covalency and ionic= ity as well. Will energy decomposition method be helpful here ? What else a= bond contains besides covalency and ionicity ? Please give your suggestion= considering weak interaction along with covalent bond. Thanks a lot. =0A= =0A=A0 Wish you a Merry Christmas and may this festival bring abundant joy = and happiness in your life!=0A=0ARegards : =0A=A0ABHISHEK SHAHI=0AResearch = Scholar=0AInorganic and Physical Chemistry=0AIndian Institute Of Science=0A= Bangalore-12 ---886612536-2098345757-1353914767=:83733 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear abhishek,=

= &nb= sp; Yes, you are right, EDA (Energy Decomposition Analysi= s) will be very useful in understanding the covalent/ionic character of a c= hemical bond and you can also see G. Frenking's publications for further de= tails. Regarding the weak interactions, u can also go for SAPT analysis whi= ch includes the dispersion terms along with other attraction and repulsion = terms.

Cheers,

vijay solomon. r
=

wherever you go l= eave your best and the best will follow you

Vijay Solomon.R
Swiss Federal Commission Fellow
Department of Chemistry

=09=09University of Basel
=09=09Klin= gelbergstrasse 80
=09=09CH-4056 Basel, Switzerland =09=09

<= div align=3D"left">more details http://vjsolo= .weebly.com

= From: ABHISHEK SHAHI shahi= .abhishek1984/agmail.com <owner-chemistry=-=ccl.net>
To: "Solomon, Vijay " <vijays= olomon_2005=-=yahoo.co.in>
Sent= : Monday, 26 November 2012 9:49 AM
Subject: CCL: covalency and ionicity

Dear All,

= ; Is there any computational method to calculate covalency of a parti= cular bond ? In many article, It has been seen that this particular bond ha= ve some percentage of covalency and ionicity as well. Will energy decomposi= tion method be helpful here ? What else a bond contains besides covalency a= nd ionicity ? Please give your suggestion considering weak interaction along with covale= nt bond. Thanks a lot.
=0A=0A
Wish = you a Merry Christmas and may this festival bring abundant joy and h= appiness in your life!
=0A=0A
Reg= ards :
ABHISHEK SHAHI
Research Scholar
=0A=0AInorganic and Physical= Chemistry
Indian Institute Of Science
=0A=0ABangalore-12

= =0A

---886612536-2098345757-1353914767=:83733-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Nov 26 08:42:01 2012 From: "uekstrom_-_gmail.com uekstrom_-_gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Need advice on buying a large memory pc Message-Id: <-47916-121126075420-19757-OY5BHCn8kkdRbyzhRUcRaA**server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "uekstrom++gmail.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:54:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "uekstrom^^^gmail.com" [uekstrom^^^gmail.com] Thanks to everyone who gave me advice on a large memory pc. It turned out that the memory is more expensive than what it looked like at first glance, I might have to wait for the 16 GB modules to come down in price. On the the other hand I now appreciate our supercomputing center more.. Regards, Ulf From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Nov 26 09:18:00 2012 From: "Alex A Granovsky gran * classic.chem.msu.su" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Good reviews on LIMS systems? Message-Id: <-47917-121126083637-16691-1uz/jOJurGVF/2q5chEdgQ|a|server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Alex A Granovsky" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:36:36 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "Alex A Granovsky" [gran _ classic.chem.msu.su] Dear CCLers, I would be very grateful if someone could suggest good critical reviews on modern LIMS systems. Kind regards, Alex Granovsky From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Nov 26 09:53:00 2012 From: "quantum chem qchem66\a/gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: topic Message-Id: <-47918-121126093831-6079-fG80lLPCIk6fQC9e8hWKaw-x-server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "quantum chem" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 09:38:30 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "quantum chem" [qchem66%%gmail.com] Dear Members, I am looking for a new research topic for writing a research project on the theoretical studies of atomic clusters/biomolecules/peptides etc employing ab intio methods.I shall appreciate if some of you could suggest me some new/potential topics of research. best qc From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Nov 26 10:42:00 2012 From: "Joseph Leonard jleonard42++gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: topic Message-Id: <-47919-121126103922-17671-NZ1ttL3EdsWT99wISS8lfQ*_*server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Joseph Leonard Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:39:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Joseph Leonard [jleonard42#,#gmail.com] Two related projects that would help in my work would be to understand where protonation occurs in drug-like molecules and how tautomer forms can be evaluated/scored for such molecules. While I have not followed the literature base closely on this, I think much of this has been handled via rules or models build from small, possibly mono-functional molecules. Robust, relatively quick methods would be a win... Joe On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:38 AM, quantum chem qchem66a/gmail.com wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "quantum chem" [qchem66%%gmail.com] > Dear Members, > I am looking for a new research topic for writing a research project on the theoretical studies of atomic clusters/biomolecules/peptides etc employing ab intio methods.I shall appreciate if some of you could suggest me some new/potential topics of research. > best > qc> > -- Be productive, be fantastically clever when necessary, speak truth to power, hit your dates and don't ship crap. -- Rands From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Nov 26 16:07:00 2012 From: "Fedor Goumans goumans(a)scm.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: covalency and ionicity Message-Id: <-47920-121126133248-10260-pGttBfP1mNeDzMIkkqdtsg .. server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Fedor Goumans Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--162080220 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:32:38 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Sent to CCL by: Fedor Goumans [goumans|*|scm.com] --Apple-Mail-2--162080220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Abhishek, You can also have a look at the recent natural orbitals for chemical = valence method, which works nicely in combination with the energy = decomposition analysis. The ETS-NOCV method by Mitoraj & Michalak also decomposes the = interaction energy in terms of specific orbital contributions and gives = the deformation density due to the orbitals interacting between = fragments. With kind regards, Fedor On 26 Nov 2012, at 08:26, Vijay Solomon vijaysolomon_2005]~[yahoo.co.in = wrote: > Dear abhishek, >=20 > Yes, you are right, EDA (Energy = Decomposition Analysis) will be very useful in understanding the = covalent/ionic character of a chemical bond and you can also see G. = Frenking's publications for further details. Regarding the weak = interactions, u can also go for SAPT analysis which includes the = dispersion terms along with other attraction and repulsion terms.=20 >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > vijay solomon. r >=20 > =20 > wherever you go leave your best and the best will follow you > Vijay Solomon.R > Swiss Federal Commission Fellow=20 > Department of Chemistry > University of Basel > Klingelbergstrasse 80 > CH-4056 Basel, Switzerland > more details http://vjsolo.weebly.com >=20 > From: ABHISHEK SHAHI shahi.abhishek1984/agmail.com = > To: "Solomon, Vijay " =20 > Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012 9:49 AM > Subject: CCL: covalency and ionicity >=20 > Dear All,=20 >=20 > Is there any computational method to calculate covalency of a = particular bond ? In many article, It has been seen that this particular = bond have some percentage of covalency and ionicity as well. Will energy = decomposition method be helpful here ? What else a bond contains besides = covalency and ionicity ? Please give your suggestion considering weak = interaction along with covalent bond. Thanks a lot.=20 >=20 > Wish you a Merry Christmas and may this festival bring abundant joy = and happiness in your life! >=20 > Regards :=20 > ABHISHEK SHAHI > Research Scholar > Inorganic and Physical Chemistry > Indian Institute Of Science > Bangalore-12=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-2--162080220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Dear = Abhishek,

You can also have a look at the recent = natural orbitals for chemical valence method, which works nicely in = combination with the energy decomposition analysis.

The = ETS-NOCV method by Mitoraj & Michalak also decomposes the = interaction energy in terms of specific orbital contributions and gives = the deformation density due to the orbitals interacting between = fragments.

With kind = regards,

Fedor

On 26 Nov 2012, = at 08:26, Vijay Solomon vijaysolomon_2005]~[yahoo.co.in wrote:

Dear = abhishek,

           = ;            &= nbsp; Yes, you are right, EDA (Energy Decomposition Analysis) will = be very useful in understanding the covalent/ionic character of a = chemical bond and you can also see G. Frenking's publications for = further details. Regarding the weak interactions, u can also go for SAPT = analysis which includes the dispersion terms along with other attraction = and repulsion terms.

Cheers,

vijay solomon. r

=
wherever you go = leave your best and the best will follow = you
Vijay Solomon.R
Swiss Federal Commission Fellow
Department of = Chemistry
= University of Basel
Klingelbergstrasse = 80
CH-4056 Basel, Switzerland =
more = details  http://vjsolo.weebly.com
<= div align=3D"left">

=

=
From: = ABHISHEK SHAHI shahi.abhishek1984/agmail.com = <owner-chemistry=3D-=3Dccl.net>
To: "Solomon, Vijay " = <vijaysolomon_2005=3D-=3Dyahoo.co.in>
Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012 = 9:49 AM
Subject: = CCL: covalency and ionicity

Dear All,

      Is = there any computational method to calculate covalency of a particular = bond ? In many article, It has been seen that this particular bond have = some percentage of covalency and ionicity as well. Will energy = decomposition method be helpful here ? What else a bond contains besides = covalency and ionicity ? Please give your suggestion considering weak interaction along with = covalent bond. Thanks a lot.

Wish you a Merry Christmas and may = this festival bring abundant joy and happiness in your = life!

Regards :
ABHISHEK = SHAHI
Research = Scholar
Inorganic = and Physical Chemistry
Indian = Institute Of Science
Bangalore-= 12

=

= --Apple-Mail-2--162080220-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Nov 26 22:34:00 2012 From: "Eric Scerri scerri(~)chem.ucla.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: apologies Message-Id: <-47921-121126220051-18932-Rvk/GIof0+lKu4W83LdwyA__server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Eric Scerri Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-72--131431418 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:03:26 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Sent to CCL by: Eric Scerri [scerri**chem.ucla.edu] --Apple-Mail-72--131431418 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear CCL'ers, Apologies to those of you annoyed by my offering copies of my recent New Scientist article. I rather naively thought that theoretical and computational chemists might be interested in the subject matter of realism and anti-realism in chemistry. all the best eric scerri. P.S. I was under the impression that I was a CCL subscriber and that's why I was able to post to the list? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- website: http://ericscerri.com/ Eric Scerri, A Very Short Introduction to the Periodic Table, Oxford University Press, 2011, http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Chemistry/?view=usa&ci=9780199582495 Eric Scerri, The Periodic Table, Its Story and Its Significance, Oxford University Press, 2007. http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Chemistry/?view=usa&ci=9780195305739 UCLA faculty website: http://faculty.chemistry.ucla.edu/institution/personnel?personnel_id=294334 --Apple-Mail-72--131431418 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear = CCL'ers,

Apologies to those of you annoyed by my = offering copies of my recent New Scientist article.

I rather = naively thought that theoretical and computational chemists might be = interested in the subject matter of realism and anti-realism in = chemistry.

all the best

eric = scerri.

P.S. I was under the impression = that I was a CCL subscriber and that's why I was able to post to the = list?

http://ericscerri.com/
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Eric Scerri, The Periodic Table, Its Story = and Its Significance, Oxford University Press, = 2007. http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Ch= emistry/?view=3Dusa&ci=3D9780195305739

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