From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jun 8 08:10:01 2017 From: "Dan T Major majort^^^biu.ac.il" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Educational software for molecular modeling/computational chemistry co Message-Id: <-52828-170608080739-7786-zaV6vzaiPKgXAPzcPTRMGg .. server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Dan T Major" Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 08:07:37 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Dan T Major" [majort()biu.ac.il] Dear Colleagues, I would like your advice regarding educational software for molecular modeling/computational chemistry courses. In my department, we have been giving a course in molecular modeling for some years now that includes lectures and hands-on sessions. Its a rather extensive course that covers potential energy surfaces (molecular mechanics, quantum chemistry), minimization methods, molecular dynamics, solvation, docking, protein modeling, pharmacophores, and some solid-state modeling using DFT. The course has been geared towards a general graduate student audience (not specialists) to expose young researchers to modeling. The course includes a final project related to their area of research. The hands-on part of the course is an essential part of the course and we have used Discovery Studio and Materials Studio (Biovia). Due to continuously increasing costs it has now become too expensive for us, and we are looking for much cheaper alternatives that have similar easy intuitive GUI for a wide range of applications (to minimize the need for students to spend time learning many different programs). We have many existing platforms, but none really fill this need (i.e. Gaussian, Q-Chem, CHARMM, Amber, VASP, Autodock, etc.). Schrodinger is currently also on the expensive side for educational purposes. Any ideas? Thank you, Prof. Dan T Major Chemistry Department Bar-Ilan University Ramat-Gan 52900 Israel Phone: 972-3-5317392 Fax: 972-3-7384053 e-mail:majort\a/mail.biu.ac.il(majort\a/biu.ac.ilorDan-Thomas.Major\a/biu.ac.il) Web:http://ch.biu.ac.il/major --> New Web-site:https://faculty.biu.ac.il/~majord -->GoogleScholar(https://scholar.google.co.il) -->ResearchID(http://www.researcherid.com/rid/J-8761-2014) -->ORCID(http://orcid.org/0000-0002-9231-0676) -->ResearchGate(https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Dan_Major) From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jun 8 09:34:00 2017 From: "Peter Jarowski peterjarowski..gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Educational software for molecular modeling/computational chemistry co Message-Id: <-52829-170608092706-10917-IGWnYIicdIUBLUY+548zzA/a\server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Peter Jarowski Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f40304388784808add055172ce61" Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 13:26:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Peter Jarowski [peterjarowski^gmail.com] --f40304388784808add055172ce61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear Prof. Major: We are developing an OpenSaaS cloud-based computational chemistry environment, where the business model is low subscription fees and on-demand pay-as-you-go access to CPU time on the cloud. www.chemalive.com Take a look at our recently launched conformational analysis module: http://www.chemalive.com/C/interfaceC.html Its only one aspect but watch us here for the launch of more advanced features over the next couple months. Once more developed it would be perfect for the classroom as there is no need for software or hardware on your end. - only an internet connection. Our ultimate goal is the fully managed computation of reaction mechanisms direct from 2D chemical syntax to 3D structure and thermodynamics/kinetics. Part of our tech is supported by machine learning. Thus, one motivation for us is the collection of high quality molecules in our large database (for training data). So it would be great if you and others register and use our interface (no IP please as we own the structures once submitted). It's free, but currently only at the PM6 level. The exchange: We get relavent molecules and you get automatic generation of conformers and optimization using rdkit and CP2k as the primary engines direct from 2D chemical input with an interactive display for navigating the energetic/structural space. Please register and try it out. That's my pitch for the moment. Best to all, Peter On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 at 15:06, Dan T Major majort^^^biu.ac.il < owner-chemistry _ ccl.net> wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "Dan T Major" [majort()biu.ac.il] > Dear Colleagues, > I would like your advice regarding educational software for molecular > modeling/computational chemistry > courses. > In my department, we have been giving a course in molecular modeling for > some years now that includes > lectures and hands-on sessions. Its a rather extensive course that covers > potential energy surfaces > (molecular mechanics, quantum chemistry), minimization methods, molecular > dynamics, solvation, > docking, protein modeling, pharmacophores, and some solid-state modeling > using DFT. The course has > been geared towards a general graduate student audience (not specialists) > to expose young researchers > to modeling. The course includes a final project related to their area of > research. > The hands-on part of the course is an essential part of the course and we > have used Discovery Studio > and Materials Studio (Biovia). Due to continuously increasing costs it has > now become too expensive for > us, and we are looking for much cheaper alternatives that have similar > easy intuitive GUI for a wide range > of applications (to minimize the need for students to spend time learning > many different programs). We > have many existing platforms, but none really fill this need (i.e. > Gaussian, Q-Chem, CHARMM, Amber, > VASP, Autodock, etc.). Schrodinger is currently also on the expensive side > for educational purposes. Any > ideas? > > Thank you, > > Prof. Dan T Major > Chemistry Department > Bar-Ilan University > Ramat-Gan 52900 > Israel > > Phone: 972-3-5317392 > Fax: 972-3-7384053 > e-mail:majort]~[mail.biu.ac.il(majort]~[biu.ac.ilorDan-Thomas.Major]~[ > biu.ac.il) > Web:http://ch.biu.ac.il/major > --> New Web-site:https://faculty.biu.ac.il/~majord > -->GoogleScholar(https://scholar.google.co.il) > -->ResearchID(http://www.researcherid.com/rid/J-8761-2014) > -->ORCID(http://orcid.org/0000-0002-9231-0676) > -->ResearchGate(https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Dan_Major)> > > --f40304388784808add055172ce61 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Prof. Major:

We are developing an OpenSa= aS cloud-based computational chemistry environment, where the business mode= l is low subscription fees and on-demand pay-as-you-go access to CPU time o= n the cloud.

= www.chemalive.com

Take a look at our recently = launched conformational analysis module:

http://www.chemalive.com/C/= interfaceC.html

Its only one aspect but watch = us here for the launch of more advanced features over the next couple month= s. Once more developed it would be perfect for the classroom as there is no= need for software or hardware on your end. - only an internet connection.<= /div>

Our ultimate goal is the fully managed computation= of reaction mechanisms direct from 2D chemical syntax to 3D structure and = thermodynamics/kinetics.

Part of our tech is suppo= rted by machine learning. Thus, one motivation for us is the collection of = high quality molecules in our large database (for training data). So it wou= ld be great if you and others register and use our interface (no IP please = as we own the structures once submitted).

It's= free, but currently only at the PM6 level. The exchange: We get relavent m= olecules and you get automatic generation of conformers and optimization us= ing rdkit and CP2k as the primary engines direct from 2D chemical input wit= h an interactive display for navigating the energetic/structural space.

Please register and try it out.

<= div>That's my pitch for the moment.

Best to al= l,

Peter

=
On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 at 15:06, Dan T Major majort^^^biu.ac.il <owner= -chemistry _ ccl.net> wrote:
<= br> Sent to CCL by: "Dan T Major" [majort()biu.ac.il]
Dear Colleagues,
I would like your advice regarding educational software for molecular model= ing/computational chemistry
courses.
In my department, we have been giving a course in molecular modeling for so= me years now that includes
lectures and hands-on sessions. Its a rather extensive course that covers p= otential energy surfaces
(molecular mechanics, quantum chemistry), minimization methods, molecular d= ynamics, solvation,
docking, protein modeling, pharmacophores, and some solid-state modeling us= ing DFT. The course has
been geared towards a general graduate student audience (not specialists) t= o expose young researchers
to modeling. The course includes a final project related to their area of r= esearch.
The hands-on part of the course is an essential part of the course and we h= ave used Discovery Studio
and Materials Studio (Biovia). Due to continuously increasing costs it has = now become too expensive for
us, and we are looking for much cheaper alternatives that have similar easy= intuitive GUI for a wide range
of applications (to minimize the need for students to spend time learning m= any different programs). We
have many existing platforms, but none really fill this need (i.e. Gaussian= , Q-Chem, CHARMM, Amber,
VASP, Autodock, etc.). Schrodinger is currently also on the expensive side = for educational purposes. Any
ideas?

Thank you,

Prof. Dan T Major
Chemistry Department
Bar-Ilan University
Ramat-Gan 52900
Israel

Phone: 972-3-5317392
Fax: 972-3-7384053
e-mail:majort]~[mail.biu.ac.il(majort]~[biu.ac.ilorDan-Thomas.Major]~[biu.ac.il)=
Web:http://ch.biu.ac.il/major
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-->GoogleScholar(https://scholar.google.co.il)
-->ResearchID(http://www.researcherid.com/rid/J-8761-2= 014)
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--f40304388784808add055172ce61-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jun 8 13:11:00 2017 From: "Joe Leonard jleonard42__gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Educational software for molecular modeling/computational chemistry co Message-Id: <-52830-170608093205-12311-/skAWjy8bnoM1S8PLeKpsw- -server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Joe Leonard Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6F193C49-CA02-49AF-BB42-0DD7257D7C9C" Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 09:31:56 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Sent to CCL by: Joe Leonard [jleonard42/a\gmail.com] --Apple-Mail=_6F193C49-CA02-49AF-BB42-0DD7257D7C9C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Have you considered Spartan? It has been successfully used in both = educational and commercial work for deades and (I think) covers many of = the areas you describe. It also has a tablet application that might be = useful as a replacement for the tinker-toy models used =E2=80=9Cwhen I = was a boy=E2=80=9D. It=E2=80=99s possible one of the commercial vendors (Schrodinger, = OpenEye, CCG) might work with academic sites that offer training on a = recurring basis as it is a marketing effort for them. I have no idea = whether this is still done (Accelrys was known for this if I remember = correctly). Perhaps you should contact their Academic Sales contacts to = see whether a workshop or an on-going relationship can be set up? Joe > On Jun 8, 2017, at 8:07 AM, Dan T Major majort^^^biu.ac.il = wrote: >=20 >=20 > Sent to CCL by: "Dan T Major" [majort()biu.ac.il] > Dear Colleagues, > I would like your advice regarding educational software for molecular = modeling/computational chemistry=20 > courses.=20 > In my department, we have been giving a course in molecular modeling = for some years now that includes=20 > lectures and hands-on sessions. Its a rather extensive course that = covers potential energy surfaces=20 > (molecular mechanics, quantum chemistry), minimization methods, = molecular dynamics, solvation,=20 > docking, protein modeling, pharmacophores, and some solid-state = modeling using DFT. The course has=20 > been geared towards a general graduate student audience (not = specialists) to expose young researchers=20 > to modeling. The course includes a final project related to their area = of research. > The hands-on part of the course is an essential part of the course and = we have used Discovery Studio=20 > and Materials Studio (Biovia). Due to continuously increasing costs it = has now become too expensive for=20 > us, and we are looking for much cheaper alternatives that have similar = easy intuitive GUI for a wide range=20 > of applications (to minimize the need for students to spend time = learning many different programs). We=20 > have many existing platforms, but none really fill this need (i.e. = Gaussian, Q-Chem, CHARMM, Amber,=20 > VASP, Autodock, etc.). Schrodinger is currently also on the expensive = side for educational purposes. Any=20 > ideas? >=20 > Thank you, >=20 > Prof. Dan T Major > Chemistry Department > Bar-Ilan University > Ramat-Gan 52900 > Israel >=20 > Phone: 972-3-5317392 > Fax: 972-3-7384053 > = e-mail:majort]~[mail.biu.ac.il(majort]~[biu.ac.ilorDan-Thomas.Major]~[biu.= ac.il) > Web:http://ch.biu.ac.il/major > --> New Web-site:https://faculty.biu.ac.il/~majord > -->GoogleScholar(https://scholar.google.co.il) > -->ResearchID(http://www.researcherid.com/rid/J-8761-2014) > -->ORCID(http://orcid.org/0000-0002-9231-0676) > -->ResearchGate(https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Dan_Major) >=20 >=20 >=20 > -=3D This is automatically added to each message by the mailing script = =3D- > To recover the email address of the author of the message, please = change>=20>=20>=20 > Subscribe/Unsubscribe:=20>=20>=20 > Job: http://www.ccl.net/jobs=20 > Conferences: = http://server.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ >=20>=20>=20>=20 >=20 =E2=80=94 =E2=80=9CWe=E2=80=99re all told at some point that we can no longer play = the children=E2=80=99s game. We just don=E2=80=99t know when that=E2=80=99= s gonna be. Some of us are told at 18, some of are told at 40, but = we=E2=80=99re all told.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 Moneyball --Apple-Mail=_6F193C49-CA02-49AF-BB42-0DD7257D7C9C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Have you considered Spartan?  It has been successfully = used in both educational and commercial work for deades and (I think) = covers many of the areas you describe.  It also has a tablet = application that might be useful as a replacement for the tinker-toy = models used =E2=80=9Cwhen I was a boy=E2=80=9D.

It=E2=80=99s possible one of the = commercial vendors (Schrodinger, OpenEye, CCG) might work with academic = sites that offer training on a recurring basis as it is a marketing = effort for them.  I have no idea whether this is still done = (Accelrys was known for this if I remember correctly).  Perhaps you = should contact their Academic Sales contacts to see whether a workshop = or an on-going relationship can be set up?

Joe
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Sent to CCL by: "Dan T Major" [majort()biu.ac.il]
Dear = Colleagues,
I would like your advice regarding educational = software for molecular modeling/computational chemistry
courses.
In my department, we have been giving = a course in molecular modeling for some years now that includes
lectures and hands-on sessions. Its a rather extensive course = that covers potential energy surfaces
(molecular = mechanics, quantum chemistry), minimization methods, molecular dynamics, = solvation,
docking, protein modeling, pharmacophores, and = some solid-state modeling using DFT. The course has
been = geared towards a general graduate student audience (not specialists) to = expose young researchers
to modeling. The course includes = a final project related to their area of research.
The = hands-on part of the course is an essential part of the course and we = have used Discovery Studio
and Materials Studio (Biovia). = Due to continuously increasing costs it has now become too expensive for =
us, and we are looking for much cheaper alternatives that = have similar easy intuitive GUI for a wide range
of = applications (to minimize the need for students to spend time learning = many different programs). We
have many existing = platforms, but none really fill this need (i.e. Gaussian, Q-Chem, = CHARMM, Amber,
VASP, Autodock, etc.). Schrodinger is = currently also on the expensive side for educational purposes. Any
ideas?

Thank you,

Prof. Dan T Major
Chemistry = Department
Bar-Ilan University
Ramat-Gan = 52900
Israel

Phone: = 972-3-5317392
Fax: 972-3-7384053
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