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JMR might also fit your needs...
location:
Oak.Oakland.Edu
/pub/msdos/chemstry
jmr.zip

Jim Vito
javito@netcom.com

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> From chemistry-request@ccl.net Sat May 14 16:20:26 1994
> From: Jan Labanowski <jkl@ccl.net>
> Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 18:14:32 -0400
> Message-Id: <199405142214.SAA18422@hawkeye.ccl.net>
> To: msrge@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: CCL:Molecular viewing software
> In-Reply-To: Mail from 'Craig Wilson <cw@ccl.net>'
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> Craig,
> 
> Craig Wilson <msrge@csv.warwick.ac.uk> writes:
> > I would very much like to obtain a good piece of software for displaying 
> > molecular structures from my ab initio calculations. Ideally, the program
> 
> Write yourself a simple perl/awk script which will extract coordinates
> from your ab initio output file and produce XYZ file for Xmol (Xmol
> is available from ftp.msc.edu in /pub/xmol as far as I remember).
> 
> Examples of perl scripts which extract data from output files
> of some ab initio programs are on anonymous ftp on www.ccl.net
> in /pub/chemistry/software/perl/geom
> 
> Jan Labanowski
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From hogue@canada.den.mmc.com  Wed May 18 10:55:46 1994
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From: hogue@canada.den.mmc.com (Pat Hogue 1-2183)
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Subject: Semiempirical vs Ab initio


Her is my $0.02 worth on the semiempirical vs ab initio question:

      I wanted to use computational techniques to supplement
 my experimental work as part of a MS tehsis.  The topic was
 related to aerospace lubrication, a very work related subject. 
 As a full-time employee I did not have time to research every 
possible public domain siftware package.  Richard Counts
 suggested GEOMOS, which the Chemistry Department at Colorado 
School of mines purchased.  Mike Schmidt also sent me GAMEESS, 
however I could not get this copy to run. 

     Well into my thesis work it became apparent that GEOMOS
 (specifically AM1 and INDO) did not always return expected results.
  In the case of unusually long bond lengths in hydrazine Andy Holder
 retuned results from AMPAC that looked good.  This also made me 
think I needed a better semiempirical package.  By this time the 
Chem. Dept. had aquired Hyperchem.

     Hyperchem was the only package I used which indicated 
that the acetal linkage (-CF2-O-CF2-) might be reactive
 in perfluoropolyethers (PFPEs), in this case it participated 
in the LUMO.  This finding was significant because much 
experimental work by many workers had shown that this linkage 
was indeed the weak link of the molecule.  IBM researchers
 using G86 did not determine that the acetal linkage was 
part of the frontier orbitals during their study of 
 model PFPEs.

     This experince has left me with an appreciation 
of the power of semiempirical methods.  I intend to try
 to acquire this capability for our aerospace firm.  
I hope this posting helps someone.   

Pat Hogue

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Subject: aqueous polyelectrolyte systems.


I'm looking for some references on molecular modeling of aqueous
polyelectrolyte systems.  I'm also interest in polymer systems
with two solvents ( In my case water and an alcohol ).

Thanks in advance

Scott

From YUAN@UCCHEM.OA.UC.EDU  Wed May 18 20:55:37 1994
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From: YUAN@UCCHEM.OA.UC.EDU (JieYuan,Chemistry,U.Cincinnati)
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We have just realized that the CSD on OSC Cray has not been updated for
a long time (email from Dave H. of OSC).

Is there another convenient site that we can access CSD?

Thanks a lot!

===== Jie Yuan === Chemistry === U. Cincinnati === Jie.Yuan@UC.EDU =====

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Subject: metavanadate coordinates?



I am looking for the atomic coordinates for metavanadate. I have
checked the Cambridge data base as well as CAS but have not found any
coordinates. I have found quite a few references, but no atomic
coordinates.

I have co-crystalized a protein with sodium meta-vanadate (pH=7.4), and
am trying to refine the structure. The most likely form of vanadate may
be V4O12. Any help appreciated.

Andy Arvai
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