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 Dear Netters,

 I would like to get AIMPAC series programs which R. W. F. Bader,et al
developped 
 and which contains the calculation of the Laplacian of charge density. 
Ref. is  J. Comput. Chem, 3, 317 (1982) , however, there is no journal in 
my university.
 How should I get this programs and manuals? 

Points of question:
(1) How to contact?
(2) Free or not? If I need costs, how much?
(3) I use IBM RISC/6000 (AIX 3.2.5). Could I use it in this workstation?
 
 SIncerely yours,
 smori
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Dear CCL'ers,

Two weeks ago, I posted a question on clustering according to internal
coordinates, although there's no many responses, I'd still like to give a
summary. BTW, I am sorry for an address error in last post, this time it 
is definately right. More infomation is welcome, especially for free code. 

Henry

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My original post,

> I've got from a simulated annealing process a group of conformations of a
> penta-ptide with 3D coordinates, and want to cluster them according to
> internal coordinates, i.e. value of Phi and Psi angle, but I haven't found
> the relative function in SYBYL or QUANTA.  Can anyone tell me where to find
> suitable softwares ? 
>
> BTW, I also want to get the standard of dividing Ramanchandra graph
> (explicit value), i.e., if I got a pair of Phi-Psi value, how can I tell
> whether it fall into A,D,or D*? 


-------- From: shenkin@still3.chem.columbia.edu (Peter Shenkin)

Our program, XCluster, is designed to do exactly this.  It's included
with MacroModel, which isn't free, but is very cheap to academics.

For further info, "finger mmod@still3.chem.columbia.edu".  If
you visit our WWW home page and work your way down to a description
of the XCluster program, you'll see some images that show what 
clusters of conformations look like if the ensemble indeed exhbits
strong clustering.  Our home page is:

       http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~chempub/mmod/mmod.html

XCluster can work in either torsional space or in Cartesian space;
the user decides at run-time.  You can read more about XCluster in:
Shenkin & McDonald, J. Comput. Chem., v.15, pp.899-916, 1994.

Also, the latest version of MacroModel, Version 5.0, includes
converters that translate from SYBYL Mol2 format to MacroModel
format (and vice versa) -- so if you've been using SYBYL, it ought 
to be easy to get your conformations into a format that MacroModel 
can understand.

> BTW, I also want to get the standard of dividing Ramanchandra graph
> (explicit value), i.e., if I got a pair of Phi-Psi value, how can I tell
> whether it fall into A,D,or D*? 

XCluster doesn't do this for you;  sorry.  But the way I'd do this
is to print out the Phi-Psi values (MacroModel can do this for you).
Then calculate the distance of each pair to the "generic" pair value
for the  A, D and D* regions, taking the periodicity of angle space
into account.  The "generic" pair value a given Phi-Psi pair is
closest to defines which region it belongs to.

	-P.

******** When somebody says, "It's a matter of principle,"... ********
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************ ...it's a sure sign he wants the whole pie. *************


------------ From h0159cap@rz.hu-berlin.de  Fri Sep 15 15:25:19 1995

Dear Henry,
 
> I've got from a simulated annealing process a group of conformations of a
> penta-ptide with 3D coordinates, and want to cluster them according to
> internal coordinates, i.e. value of Phi and Psi angle, but I haven't found
> the relative function in SYBYL or QUANTA.  Can anyone tell me where to find
> suitable softwares ? 

Along with software, it might be useful to inspekt a certain selection of
conformers by eye ! Often, the best is to first cluster on hydrogen bonding
(using any criteria for HB), and then look at only backbone dihedrals to
subdivide groups with same hydrogen bonds.
  
> BTW, I also want to get the standard of dividing Ramanchandra graph
> (explicit value), i.e., if I got a pair of Phi-Psi value, how can I tell
> whether it fall into A,D,or D*? 

You should find this in Zimmerman, S.S. & Scheraga, H.A. Biopolymers 1977,
v. 16, 811-843.

Regards,

Frank Eisenmenger
 
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------ From: "FOUNTAIN, KEN" <SC18%NEMOMUS.bitnet@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU>

Hi Henry,
     I'd be very interested in whatever you find out about this.
Could you please post to the list any answers you get.

     BTW, my son, Daniel Fountain, is at Peking  Language university
 in the Friendship Dormatory.  If you get over that way please look
 him up and introduce yourself.  He is a graduated chemical engineer
>from Georgia Tech, who is studying Chinese language and culture for two
years in your country.  I'm sure he would like to see someone who is
talking to his father.
Sincerely,  Ken Fountain Professor of Chemistry
Truman/Northeast Miussouri State University

---------------- From: Mrigank <mrigank@imtech.ernet.in>
To: chemistry@www.ccl.net

I have written a program which can find phi, psi, omega and chis from PDB
or MoMoS format files and output in a cpmpact tabular or a GNUPLOT script that
also markout the Ramachandran allowed regions. It is in Fortran. 

If interested i can send it .

Mrigank
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Dear CCL's: I am posting the following query from a 
subscriber of the "water-list" who is not in the CCL.
Please, if you answer to the list also send a copy to
his address.
Regards
Jorge Seminario
=================================================================
From: bruce_bush@merck.com

Calculated "Absolute" binding free energies: what are they?
I posed this question to the Water Science Network on 15 Sept 95.
I have a tentative answer, based on further thought and sharpened by useful
responses (thanks to Drs. Berendsen, Cramer, Stouton).  Comments welcome.

What do computationalists mean when they report the "ABSOLUTE free
energy of binding" and compare this with a simulation energy?
Example:  J. Aqvist et al, Protein Engineering 7(3), 385-391 (1994);
        also papers by Kollman, Hermans, Warshel, etc.
These calculations are always based on averages of some sort, in which
no volume or density appears explicitly. 

But "absolute" free energy of binding should correspond somehow to
a dissociation constant which has units of CONCENTRATION: 
		   [A(free)][R(free)] / [A:R(bound)]
Taking  logarithm ln() of Kd requires us to choose some arbitrary unit of
concentration. (Molar, 1 M,  is based on radius of earth and density of water.
Nanomolar, 1 nM, is based on these quantities plus # of fingers on 2 hands.)

Free energy of TRANSFER  between two homogeneous media (solvents
or gas phase) corresponds to a ratio of concentrations.
RELATIVE binding free energy is also a ratio of concentrations (Kd's).
Neither one raises any difficulty in princple.  The simulation yields 
an average energy which gives this ratio:  delta-G = -kT ln (c2/c1). 

How can a free-energy calculation "build in" the units of concentration
when calculating 'absolute' binding free energy, but not contain any 
unit of concentration when calculating relative free energies?

Tentative answer: 
  a) Most computational papers dealing with 'absolute' binding free energy
  don't address this question.  The simulation reports an average energy;
  the authors workers either do or do not adjust this energy.  Then they
  compare the result with experimental dissociation constants in units 1M. 
  b) There's no problem in principle when simulating free energy of transfer.
  by "turning on" interactions of A with the homogeneous solvent.  Any
  assumption of standard concentration or volume affects both the interacting
  and the noninteracting state equally, and cancels out of the final result.
  The same holds for transfer between solvents.
  c) There's no problem when simulating relative binding free energy (B:R-A:R)
  because it involves 'growing' A to B in the context of the receptor R and
  also 'growing' A to B in homogeneous solvent.  The simulation within the
  receptor is insensitive to the size of the box; and as before, the simulation
  within homogeneous fluid can also be made independent of box size.
  [Remarks (b) and (c) but apply also to 'particle insertion' or 'thermodynamic
  perturbation' or any other AVERAGING method.]
  d) Simulations of absolute binding free energy are subtly different
  from either absolute TRANSFER free energy or RELATIVE binding free energy.
  They involve growing "null" to "A" to "B" in the context of the receptor.
  Workers treat this formally as the same as growing "A" to "B".  But
  at the very endpoint of the simulation, as ligand "A" becomes "null" or is
  created from "null", the ligand gains (or loses) the ability to wander
  through all of the simulation volume.  If the simulation is done
  carefully enough, this last stage is a hugely expensive estimate of the
  the ratio of volumes of simulation 'box' to the binding site. 
  The logarithm of this ratio is an entropic free energy. Thus,
=>  e) the implicit 'standard state' of an absolute binding free energy simula-
  tion is (1 ligand per simulation box), if the end point is sampled well.
  f) The state "1M" happens correspond to 1 ligand in a box of side 12A.
  Even if workers forget to adjust for the size of the simulation 'box'
  (typically about 30A on a side) the result, compared to Kd in molar,
  appears sensible within an order of magnitude, and doesn't raise any 'flags'.

I haven't seen this argument spelled out, though Ben-Naim's careful discussions
of 'cratic' and 'unitary' entropy certainly address the same issues in the
context of transfer free energies. 

Your comments are welcome.
/ Bruce/
bruce_bush@merck.com   Merck Research Labs, Rahway NJ 07065

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I'd like to thank those who replied to my question
regarding DFT frequency scaling factors.
-Dongchul Lim, lim@rani.chem.yale.edu

>Are there scaling factors for frequencies from different
>DFT methods, especially BECKE3LYP?

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   The scaling factor for BECKE3LYP seems pretty close to one, 0.989
according to one study, see:
  C. W. Bauschlicher and H. Partridge, J. Chem. Phys. 98 (1994) 11623.
   I think that even for non-empirical functionals (LDA, Perdew's GGA)
scaling factors would not help much (they would probably turn out
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>From AZHARI@FRCU.EUN.EG  Thu Oct  5 07:42:14 1995

Look at the 24 of August issue of JPC. I do not remember the exact page number
but the title of the paper is Correlated ab initio force fields and vibrational
analysis for ioxaozle and isothiazole by Adel A. El-Azhary and Hans U. Suter.

Adel El-Azhary
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>From aps501@anugpo.anu.edu.au  Wed Oct  4 18:45:31 1995

WE are currently finalizing the writeup of just such a study. If you would
like to know the scaling factors for a variety of DFT methods drop me a line.

In the meantime I can point you to a recent paper by Pulay (JPC, 1995, 
99, 3093)

Kind Regards,

Anthony P. Scott



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Re geyying AIMPAS:
Contact research group of Prof Richard Bader
	bader@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
OR	bade@ccsvax.cis.mmaster.ca
OR	bader@babbage.chemistry.McMaster.CA

Errol Lewars
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At 12:23 95/10/06, Dr. Jorge Seminario wrote:

>Dear CCL's: I am posting the following query from a
>subscriber of the "water-list" who is not in the CCL.

I already sent the following to Bruce Bush (bruce_bush@merck.com) after his
request appeared on the Water Science Network (WSN, a *very* interesting
list; subscribe by sending mail to listserv@gibbs.oit.unc.edu, with the
command "subscribe water <your_name>" in the body). If there is any
interest, I can forward to CCL the other WSN responses to Bruce's query (I
did not keep them all, though).

Cheers, Pieter.

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|
|Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 12:33:27 -0400
|To: bruce-bush@merck.com
|From: stoutepf@chemsci5.dmpc.com (Pieter Stouten)
|Subject: Re: WSN: "Absolute" binding energies: what are they?
|
|Hi Bruce,
|
|There are no assumptions in the relationship between Ki and binding free
|energy. It's all a matter of definitions, specifically the definition of
|G(0) or more correctly mu(0).
|
|In dilute solutions, the thermodynamic potential of compound i is defined
|as
|
|    mu(i) = mu(i,0) + RT ln A(i)/A(i,0)
|
|where mu(i,0) is the thermodynamic potential under standard conditions and
|A(i)/A(i,0) is the activity with respect to the standard conditions. Since
|standard conditions for a compound in solution are defined as A(i,0) = 1
|mol/l (or 1 mol/kg), one should express A(i) in mol/l to obtain a
|dimensionless quantity. If standard conditions were defined otherwise,
|mu(i,0) would change, but RT ln A(i)/A(i,0) would exactly compensate that
|so that mu(i) stays the same.
|
|The binding free energy for a ligand L to receptor R is
|
|    delta G(R+L -> RL) = mu(RL) - mu(R) - mu(L)
|
|With A(i,0) = 1 mol/l for all compounds, this becomes
|
|    delta G(R+L -> RL) = mu(RL,0) - mu(R,0) - mu (L,0) + RT ln A(RL) -
|                         RT ln A(R) - RT ln A(L)
|                       = delta G(R+L -> RL,0) + RT ln A(RL)/(A(R)*A(L))
|
|Since delta G(R+L -> RL) = 0 (equilibrium),
|
|     delta G(R+L -> RL,0) = - RT ln A(RL)/(A(R)*A(L))
|
|or
|     delta G(R+L -> RL,0) = RT ln Kd
|
|Note that what is generally referred to as the binding free energy is
|actually delta G(R+L -> RL,0), the binding free energy *under standard
|conditions*.
|
|Hope this helps.
|
|Cheers, Pieter.
|
|--
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Hi!

Just one more thing - I noticed that the minimisation stage gave no 
proximity warings whilst the dynamics gave lots of warnings for close 
atoms - is this a symptom?

Cheers

Alex


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Hi all.

I must thank you all for the help that you have supplied so far. 

I have a very strange one for you now. I have a quenched dynamics run 
going on Charmm 22.2, using 15A TIP3 sphere to dissolve methyl-
glycoside.

I used ABNR to minimise to tolgrd 0.001 and then used a fairly standard 
quenched dynamics run.  The snag is that after 300 steps then program 
says that some of the atoms have undefined co-ordinates.

Has anyone every come across this before.

Can anyone help.

Thanks in advance

Alex


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