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I wanna get ZINDO version for Sum-Over-States(SOS) calculations of
hyperpolarizabilities. How can I buy ZINDO-SOS?
I've heard about ZINDO, which can produce UV/VIS spectrum. But I hope to
get ZINDO which can also calculate hyperpolarizabilities through SOS
method. Thanks for advance.


Korea University Department of Chemistry Physical Chemistry Lab
HyunSoo Kim

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Subject: SEARLE/MONSANTO JOINS ELECTRONIC NOTEBOOKS CONSORTIUM 


Dear Colleague,

Electronic notebooks and collaborative computing systems are vitally
important 
for forwarding current progress in science and technology.  

Please forward this to all technical or business persons in your enterprises
with a need to know about this important global activity.  Thank you.
 
======================================================================
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:  02/07/96

Contact:  Dr. Rich Lysakowski, Executive Director
The Collaborative Electronic Notebooks Systems (CENS) Consortium
8 Pheasant Avenue Sudbury, Massachusetts USA 01776
phone: 508-443-4771;  fax: 508-440-9798; e-mail:  rich@teamscience.com
=================================================================

SEARLE/MONSANTO JOINS ELECTRONIC NOTEBOOKS CONSORTIUM 
TO DEVELOP SYSTEMS TO PROTECT AND MANAGE INTELLECTUAL 
PROPERTY RECORDS FOR R&D

FOUNDING MEMBERSHIP NOW COMPLETE FOR GLOBAL R&D SYSTEMS 
CONSORTIUM 

THE ELECTRONIC NOTEBOOKS CONSORTIUM COMPLETES FOUNDING MEMBERSHIP

BOSTON, MA -- 
The Collaborative Electronic Notebook Systems (CENS) Consortium 
recently named ten major international corporations as Founding Members,
including Bristol-Myers Squibb, Dow Chemical Company, HB Fuller, 
Rohm and Haas, and Searle/Monsanto.

The goal of the Consortium is to influence the creation and design of
industrial-strength software and standards for R&D and testing lab
applications.  Its primary focus is on R&D Team Computing Systems,
including hardware and software for basic electronic recordkeeping, 
project data management and collaboration, and interfacing tools for 
integrating common laboratory data types and instruments, and specifically, 
collaborative electronic lab notebooks.

The Consortium is focusing on the needs of end users, including chemists,
biologists, materials scientists, engineers, and their affiliated patent
attorneys, records managers, corporate intellectual property staff, and
others who sometimes spend twenty percent or more of their time now 
working with paper records throughout the life cycle of those records.

Archie Campbell, Executive Director of Chemical Sciences at Searle/Monsanto 
explains "The advantage of being a part of the Consortium is that it gives 
us access to the group's decades of industrial experience, as well as 
the expertise to use that experience as a tool to help our own teams 
achieve peak performance.   By giving our teams rapid access to diverse 
information, the Consortium will help our company reach the greatest 
possible synergy among our scientists." 

The Consortium's component-based software and hardware architectures 
are being designed to include modules to support scientists working in 
combinatorial chemistry, high-throughput screening, genetics, toxicology, 
analytical chemistry, materials science, agrochemical, environmental, 
and other types of testing and R&D laboratories.

"Good systems at reasonable prices" is the mantra bringing members and 
vendors to the Consortium.  "Building on top of well-tested, industry-
leading hardware and software platforms for groupware, document management,
and the Web, rather than building from scratch, will let the consortium 
deliver things quickly and cost effectively," says  Dr. Rich Lysakowski, 
Consortium Executive Director and a principal of TeamScience, the firm 
leading and managing the Consortium.  "We are emphasizing the use of 
forward-looking tools and open standards such as CORBA, Java, JavaBeans, 
ActiveX, and the World Wide Web in all of our lab and R&D modules."

A major technical goal of the consortium is to pull together the necessary
existing technology pieces and use them in the right combinations to
satisfy various common requirements while, at the same time, establishing
more software standards for open, integrated systems for R&D and testing
laboratories.  

Software vendors selected by the Consortium will build object-oriented,
client/server and middleware modules and applications for collaborative 
electronic notebooks and other R&D applications to meet the diverse needs
of members at reasonable prices.  Hardware vendors chosen by the Consortium 
will build specialized hand-held, PDA devices, portable notebooks, 
and servers for running the new electronic recordkeeping protocols.

The Consortium is pooling the resources of major end-user corporations to
create legally-acceptable systems and applications for R&D intellectual
property protection and management.  It has started defining practical 
procedures, protocols, and standards that meet all the major legal and 
regulatory requirements for open systems that manage electronic records 
in accurate, trustworthy, reliable ways.  The Consortium is building on the 
work of the Electronic Records Consortium (ERC), the American Intellectual 
Property Law Association (AIPLA), the U.S. FDA, PTO, the University of 
Pittsburgh and other recent research projects done by agencies in Europe, 
Asia, and Australia.

"We are focusing heavily on securing intellectual property electronically, 
in ways that are equal or better than paper systems," adds Dr. Lysakowski.  
"Consortium Members receive detailed engineering specifications, procedures, 
benchmarks and statements of best practices, plus supporting documentation 
for trustworthy and reliable electronic recordkeeping and records management.

These deliverables will help large companies to transition successfully to 
fully electronic recordkeeping systems.  What we are doing is generally 
useful to all major corporations and organizations that want to use
electronic records."

"The Consortium also increases our efficiency by allowing us to be a part 
of a single voice which interacts with multiple vendors and regulatory
agencies," concludes Archie Campbell of Searle/Monsanto.  "Without the
Consortium, these issues would be much harder to address."

The Consortium has now begun recruiting standard members and vendor members
as it moves into the next phase of operations.

Companies interested in becoming Consortium Members, or seeking for more 
information on TeamScience, Inc., should contact:

Dr. Rich Lysakowski, Consortium Executive Director, 
The Collaborative Electronic Notebook Systems Consortium
8 Pheasant Avenue, Sudbury, MA 01776. E-mail: rich@teamscience.com, 
Tel: 508-443-4771. Fax: 508-440-9798.

G.D. Searle, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Monsanto Company, develops,
manufactures, and markets prescription pharmaceuticals and other healthcare
solutions worldwide.  Its mission is to bring to the market innovative,
value-added healthcare products that satisfy unmet medical needs.  Based in
Skokie, Illinois, USA, Searle currently operates administrative offices in
34 countries and manufacturing plants in 12 locations worldwide.

TeamScience, Inc. is the leading international firm in scientific software
technical and market research, engineering, training, and publishing.  With
headquarters in Sudbury, Massachusetts, USA, TeamScience focuses on
consortia and partnerships to deliver scientific applications of groupware,
electronic notebooks and records management systems, document management,
LIMS, and instrument interfacing systems and standards.

                                # # #

Please pardon any duplicates due to multiple subscriptions or duplication 
in mailing lists.  




From toukie@zui.unizh.ch  Tue Feb 11 05:22:23 1997
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Subject: Seeking gas-phase heat of formation values


Dear Colleagues;

        I am seeking experimental gas-phase heat of formation values for the
following compounds:

                o-trifluoromethyltoluene
                o-(methylthio)toluene
                o-isopropoxytoluene
                o-phenoxytoluene
                o-ethyltoluene
                o-n-propyltoluene
                o-n-butyltoluene
                o-isopropyltoluene
                o-cyanotoluene

I have been unable to find these values either in reference books or from
http://webbook.nist.gov/chemistry/.  If anyone out there has experimental
values for any of the above compounds, kindly send me the values and
indicate the reference from which they were obtained (or if it is
unpublished data from your own laboratory).

        Thanks in advance to all responders.

Sincerely,

S. Shapiro
toukie@zui.unizh.ch


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Subject: Seeking gas-phase heat of formation values


Dear Colleagues;

        I am seeking experimental gas-phase heat of formation values for the
following compounds:

                o-trifluoromethyltoluene
                o-(methylthio)toluene
                o-isopropoxytoluene
                o-phenoxytoluene
                o-ethyltoluene
                o-n-propyltoluene
                o-n-butyltoluene
                o-isopropyltoluene
                o-cyanotoluene

I have been unable to find these values either in reference books or from
http://webbook.nist.gov/chemistry/.  If anyone out there has experimental
values for any of the above compounds, kindly send me the values and
indicate the reference from which they were obtained (or if it is
unpublished data from your own laboratory).

        Thanks in advance to all responders.

Sincerely,

S. Shapiro
toukie@zui.unizh.ch


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There is an Evans and Sutherland PS390 color computer
graphics terminal available for free.  It requires
connection to a host - usually a VAX or UNIX box.
It is located at Searle in Skokie, IL (outside Chicago)
You would have to come pick it up or make arrangements
to have it picked up.

If you are interested, Contact Dale Spangler at Searle
via email dpspan@searle.monsanto.com


From echamot@xnet.com  Tue Feb 11 17:46:45 1997
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Hi Doug,

Your question:

>Can one reasonably start from a high quality ab initio calculation on a
>single molecule (gas phase) and use that structure to pack a crystal?  If
>one does, what is the likelihood of getting the crystal structure correct?

Generated an interesting discussion on the CCL, and is closely related to
Hans-Christoph's query:

>        Based on X-ray data, I'm interested in intermolecular interaction
>energies in order to rationalize specific packing effects.

So I'd like to add my experience to the discussion.

So far as correctly representing intermolecular interaction energies, this
is not likely to be as simple as it seems.  In fact, depending on your
system, molecular mechanics simulations are likely to work much better than
quantum mechanics simulations, unless you include diffuse functions in the
wavefuntions.  

As an extreme example, I've tried modeling some charge transfer compounds,
where you might expect the intermolecular interaction  be dominated by the
electronics, hence better modeled with an electronic method than with a
force field.  If you try to find a stable geometry for the quinhydrone of
tetramethyl benzoquinone, for instance, and start with the known X-ray
crystal structure, both AM1 and PM3 attempted geometry optimizations tend to
just blow the two molecules apart, as does MM2.  The Sybyl force field does
find a stable geometry, but with a lateral displacement as well as the
initial longitudinal displacement.

The charge transfer complex between phenolthiazine (PTZ) and
tetracyanoquinone (TCNQ) responds similarly: the X-ray crystal structure
shows the two molecules to be about 3.4 A apart, but with AM1 or MP3
calculations they just separate, and an INDO/1 geometry "optimization" bonds
them together!  These calculations may handle the electronics, but they are
otherwise seriously deficient in handling the long range intermolecular
interactions.  I expect ab initio methods to have the same problem unless
you include diffuse functions.  

Interestingly, if you model either system as an excited singlet, both AM1
and PM3 find stable geometries with the molecules parallel and a reasonable
separation for a charge transfer complex.  I'm not sure whether this is an
artifact, or whether it may be a legitimate representation of what's going
on in the crystal.  Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

With the PTZ-TCNQ pair, MM2 does find a stable geometry with the two
molecules parallel, and Sybyl not only finds a stable geometry, but gets
them centered above each other as well.  This brings me to the second
problem, that has already been pointed out by Mike  Kotelyanskii:

>the molecular conformation in vacuum can be very different from it's
>in the crystal, unfortunately I cannot come up with an examples right now

The molecules are stabilized differently in a crystal than in an isolated
complex, so that not only is a different conformation possible, but a
different intermolecular alignment will be preferred as well.  In the case
of the charge transfer compounds I just mentioned, the X-ray crystal
structures show the molecules flat and parallel (as one would expect), but
offset longitudinally relative to each other.  One half of each molecule
overlaps with a molecule in the layer below it in the crystal, and the other
half overlaps with a molecule above it!  Accordingly, you may be able to
model an intermolecular interaction, but if you are going to reproduce the
alignment observed in a crystal, I believe you will need to do as you suggest:

>Or does one need to perform ab initio calculations in the periodic solid
>(e.g., CRYSTAL 95 calculations) before performing crystal packing?

Good luck.

EC
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