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[Apologies to the list for this off-topic subject, but this concerns
errors that only show up under heavy system load, e.g. computational
chemistry]

Concerning RAM tests:

Last year I had the same problem on a PC clone Linux machine (faulty
RAM which only showed intermittently during, e.g., compiling large
ab-initio packages).

I used a (shareware) memory test program, testx33.zip, obtainable from
any SIMTEL mirror (e.g. ftp.sunet.se) 
in directory msdos/memutil/testx33.zip

Just run it overnight under DOS; it will perform various read/write
operations and count the failures for *as long as you let it run*. 
It found the faulty chip where other test programs failed.

Most faulty SIMMs (RAM chips) can apparently keep functioning until
the system starts getting hot due to the duration and intensity
of the computation in progress. So the memory test of a PC at boot 
time is really very unlikely to ever catch a bug, IMHO.

Good luck,
Frits Daalmans

Frits Daalmans
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Gorlaeus Laboratoria
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Dear Thorsten:
The following references can be useful fot you.

Ref Number : 000001
1. Schleyer, P.V., Maerker, C., Dransfeld, A., Jiao, H.J., and Hommes, N.J.=
R.V. Nucleus-
Independent Chemical-Shifts - A Simple and Efficient Aromaticity Probe. J.A=
MER.CHEM.SOC.=20
118:6317-6318, 1996.=20

Ref Number : 000003
1. Lloyd, D. What Is Aromaticity. J.CHEM.INFORM.COMPUT.SCI. 36:442-447, 199=
6.=20

Ref Number : 000004
1. Krygowski, T.M., Ciesielski, A., and Cyranski, M. Aromatic Character of =
the Cyclopentadienyl=20
Moiety Embedded in Various Chemical Environments - A Statistical Treatment =
of the Structural=20
Data. J.MOL.STRUCT. 374:277-290, 1996.=20

Ref Number : 000005
1. Jiao, H.J., Hommes, N.J.R.V., Schleyer, P.V., and Demeijere, A. (5)Peric=
yclynes Are Not=20
Homoaromatic. J.ORG.CHEM. 61:2826-2828, 1996.=20

Ref Number : 000006
1. Katritzky, A.R., Karelson, M., and Wells, A.P. Aromaticity as a Quantita=
tive Concept .6.=20
Aromaticity Variation with Molecular Environment. J.ORG.CHEM. 61:1619-1623,=
 1996.=20

Ref Number : 000007
1. Burk, P., Abboud, J.L.M., and Koppel, I.A. Aromaticity of Substituted Cy=
clopropenes - A=20
Theoretical-Study. J.PHYS.CHEM. 100:6992-6997, 1996.=20

Ref Number : 000008
1. Nyulaszi, L. and Veszpremi, T. Nature of Bonding in Cyclic Conjugated Yl=
ides. J.PHYS.CHEM.=20
100:6456-6462, 1996.=20

Ref Number : 000010
1. Goldfuss, B., Schleyer, P.V., and Hampel, F. Aromaticity in Silole Diani=
ons - Structural, Energetic,=20
and Magnetic Aspects. ORGANOMETALLICS. 15:1755-1757, 1996.=20

Ref Number : 000011
1. Schleyer, P.V. and Jiao, H.J. What Is Aromaticity. PURE.APPL.CHEM. 68:20=
9-218, 1996.=20
Reprint: On Request (02/10/96)
Keyword : solicitado a Madrid;

Ref Number : 000012
1. Malar, E.J.P. Sindo1 Investigations on the Low-Lying States of Some 3 Me=
mbered Antiaromatic=20
Systems. TETRAHEDRON 52:4709-4718, 1996.=20

Ref Number : 000013
1. Krygowski, T.M. and Cyranski, M. Separation of the Energetic and Geometr=
ic Contributions to the=20
Aromaticity of Pi-Electron Carbocyclics. TETRAHEDRON 52:1713-1722, 1996.=20
The separation is applied to five-, six- and seven-membered rings in typica=
l pi- electron systems=20
(benzenoid hydrocarbons, fullerenes, fulvene and heptafulvene derivatives)

Ref Number : 000014
1. Furusaki, A. Direct Assessment of Sigma-Aromaticity in 3-Membered Rings =
by Perturbation-
Theory. THEOCHEM.J.MOL.STRUCT. 362:365-377, 1996.=20

Ref Number : 000015
1. Nyulaszi, L., Varnai, P., and Veszpremi, T. About the Aromaticity of 5-M=
embered Heterocycles.=20
THEOCHEM.J.MOL.STRUCT. 358:55-61, 1995.=20

Ref Number : 000016
1. Heinemann, C., Muller, T., Apeloig, Y., and Schwarz, H. On the Question =
of Stability, Conjugation,=20
and Aromaticity in Imidazol-2-Ylidenes and Their Silicon Analogs. J.AMER.CH=
EM.SOC. 118:2023-
2038, 1996.=20


Best regards,
=09=09REDOUAN EL BERGMI
       GRUPO DE MODELIZACION Y DISE=D1O MOLECULAR
             UNIVERSIDAD DE GRANADA
                    SPAIN

On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Thorsten Koch wrote:

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> Dear CClers!
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> At the moment I am doing calculations which have to do with aromaticity.=
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> Is anyone in the CCL community aware of any recent references or reviews=
=20
> on what aramaticity actually is and how it can be defined and/or computed=
=20
> and/or measured? The articles I read about this topic are mainly from the=
=20
> 70's.
> Any help will be appreciated.
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> Bye, Thorsten
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