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Dear All,

Here is my original request and replies obtained on question I have
asked last week. I thank to: 
    Alexander A.Bagatur'yants sasha@mx.icp.rssi.ru
    Ole Swang  Ole.Swang@chem.sintef.no
    Georg Schreckenbach schrecke@t12.lanl.gov   
    Seiji Mori smori@utsc3.chem.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
for the helpful information.

Any additional comments?

all the best,
Valentin.
 
Valentin P. Ananikov
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 Subject: CCL:TM oxidative addition/reductive elimination to the C-C
bond
 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 97 04:14:23 +0300
 From:"Ananikov V.P." <val@nmr1.ioc.ac.ru>
 To: chemistry@www.ccl.net


Dear All,

         I would like to know if anyone have an experience in reaction 
pathway calculations of Transition Metals insertion(oxidative addition) 
to the C-C bond and corresponding reverse process(reductive elimination) 
as well.  There are many examples of TM addition to H-H, C-H, Si-H
bonds, 
but only a few references concerning C-C bond breaking/forming by TM 
complexes.  

Does ECP provide sufficient accuracy level for these calculations?
How important are electron correlation and relativistic effects on third 
row elements?

In case of insertion to the X-H bond the reactions were found to proceed 
through three-centered transition state, i.e.:

                                 X  - H
                                  \  /
                                   TM

Is it correct to guess the same transition state structure for insertion 
to the C-C bond?

your suggestions/references are welcome!

I will summarize.

thank you.

                                    sincerely yours,
                                    Valentin.


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reply 1
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  Subject: Re: CCL:TM oxidative addition/reductive elimination to the
C-C bond
  Date:  Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:34:11 +0100
  From: "Alexander A.Bagatur'yants" <sasha@mx.icp.rssi.ru>
  Organization: Center on Photochemistry, Russian Academy of Sciences,
Moscow
                 Russia
  To: val@nmr1.ioc.ac.ru


Dear Valentine,
Many years ago, I was involved in this kind of activity (I mean
catalysis by transition metal complexes. There have been a lot of
articles published on this topic during last years. As to the problem
that you are interested in, the publications are rather limited, partly
because the number of experimental papers on this matter is also very
limited. In addition, the experiment is not easy to interpret in this
case. I can remember some papers of Roald Hoffmann, A. Weillard, A.
Dedieu, and, may be, you should look through papers of P. Siegbann, U.
Wahlgren, or M. Blomberg.
As to the mechanism, It could be rather diversified. Though the first
idea is this three-center transition state, we can imagine something
like a multistep process through some more plausible structures such as
addition through a C-H bond and then a transformation to a carbenoid
structure, and then a rearrangement in the coordination sphere of the
transition metal, or something else. I would like to discuss these
matters when in Moscow (I will return home on this weekend and then be
there till the end of August.
Sincerely yours
A. Bagatur'yants 

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reply 2
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  Subject: Re: CCL:TM oxidative addition/reductive elimination to the
C-C
           bond
  Date:  Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:37:57 +0200
  From:  Ole.Swang@chem.sintef.no
  To:   <val@nmr1.ioc.ac.ru>


Dear Valentin,

For C-C bond oxidative addition to TM atoms, see M. R. A. Blomberg et
al., 
J. Am Chem. Soc. 113 (1991) 424.

Good luck,

Ole Swang
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reply 3
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   Subject: Re: CCL:TM oxidative addition/reductive elimination to the
C-C
           bond
   Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 09:15:08 -0700
   From: schrecke@t12.lanl.gov (Georg Schreckenbach)
   To:   <val@nmr1.ioc.ac.ru>


Hi Valentin,

only a partial answer to your rather general question.

>Does ECP provide sufficient accuracy level for these calculations?

I don't see why ECP shouldn't be good enough, as long as you choose your
ECP, basis set, etc. carefully.

>How important are electron correlation and relativistic effects on third
>row elements?
Relativistic effects are, in my opinion, essential for the third
transition row,
also important for the second, but usually you can well do without for
the
first row of transition metals (so it depends on what you mean by "third
row").
The use of relativistic ECPs is a well established and valid
relativistic
method.
   Correlation effects are typically equally crucial for the transition
metal
complexes. That's part of the reason why DFT is so popular for them.

Best reagrds, Georg

P.S. Please summarize!

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reply 4
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  Subject: CCL:TM oxidative addition/reductive elimination to the C-C
bond
    Date:  Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:53:42 +0900 (JST)
    From: smori@utsc3.chem.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Seiji Mori)
      To: chemistry@www.ccl.net
      CC: <val@nmr1.ioc.ac.ru>


Dear Dr. Ananikov:

I have experiences of C-C bond forming process you said as to
organocopper
case .

In the reductive elimination from Me3Cu(Me2O) and Me3Cu(H2O), Dorigo and
Schleyer
 (Angew. Chem. Int. Ed. Engl. 1995, 34, 476)
and Snyder (J. Am. Chem. Soc. 1995, 117, 11025)  show three-centered
transition state
using all-electron basis set and ECP, respectively.
Snyder's ECP results are good agreement with Dorigo's AE results.

We (Nakamura, Mori, Nakamura, Morokuma, JACS, 1997, 119, 4887 and
Nakamura, Mori, Morokuma, JACS, 1997, 119, 4900) also have shown that
in the case of organocopper reaction with acetylene and acrolein.
In the acetylene addition, the geometry using relavistic ECP using Dolg
et
al. are found to be
essentially the same as that using AE. (As to second and third-row TM,
relavistic effects
are not small. See. Pyykko, Chem. Rev. 1988, 88, 563.)

  In the paper on the conjugate addition to acrolein, we showed TSs in
the
oxidative addition
 and reductive elimination.
The oxidative addition TS can be viewed as three-centered.
Reductive elimination TS can be viewed as not only three-centered but
also
four-centered.


I hope my comment is your help.
Sincerely yours,
 Seiji Mori

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 Dear Netters,

 Some days ago I wrote:
 
> I would like to receive informations on comparisons of MD simulations
> in vacuo with simulations done by using explicit solvents. 
> In particular, how compare in vacuo simulations with those performed
> in CHCl3 ?
> 
> Any reference is appreciated.


Well, I received several requests for a summary, it means that some
peoples around the world are interested to the subject, but...

                    !!! NO INFORMATIONS AT ALL !!!

Like nobody has never done such comparisons. Unbelivable.
 

 Regards,
 
 Luigi

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Hi!

Having just come back from ISMB'97 (Intelligent System for Molecular
Biology), which was totally dominated (expectedly, one might say) by
bioinformatics, I thought I might quickly poll your insight into the
Pharmaceutical Industry to help me orient myself in the _practical_
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For instance, it would be very interesting for me to know which
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the still structure-oriented 
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	Thank you - and I'll summarise, of course!
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Hello everyone,

I would appreciate very much any reference to publications on molecular
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HI!

As some of you may know, a bug has been uncovered in the PPro and PII
chips. See http://www.x86.org/secrets/Dan0411.html

For those following Usenet this is not news. Nevertheless,
I wonder what impact this will have in CCL applications
using PPro and PII chips. I have not seen our community
comment of this so I am putting on the "table" :-)

The bug is really a deviation from the IEEE Floating Point Standards.
The incorrect error flag is set when an float to integer conversion
results in an overflow.

Does anybody have any experience with or comments on the impact
of this bug in common applications like Amber, Gaussian, ADF, etc.?

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On 97/06/30 at 11:34 +0100, <CAVALLO@CHEMNA.DICHI.UNINA.IT> wrote:

>> I would like to receive informations on comparisons of MD simulations
>> in vacuo with simulations done by using explicit solvents.
>> [...]
>                    !!! NO INFORMATIONS AT ALL !!!
>
This is the only work I know of: S. Yun-yu, W. Lu & W.F. Van Gunsteren, "On
the approximation of solvent effects on the conformation and dynamics of
cyclosporin A by stochastic dynamics simulation techniques", Molec.
Simulation 1988, 1, 369-388. It compares water MD, CCl4 MD and vacuum SD.

Hope this helps,

Pieter

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> The bug is really a deviation from the IEEE Floating Point Standards.
> The incorrect error flag is set when an float to integer conversion
> results in an overflow.
> 
> Does anybody have any experience with or comments on the impact
> of this bug in common applications like Amber, Gaussian, ADF, etc.?

For Fortran programs like the ones you mentioned, the treatment
of floating point errors is left to the Fortran library provided
by the compiler. As far as I know the Fortran standard does not
specify the response to such errors; I suppose most libraries would
terminate the program with an error message.

Anyway, a program that would ever let such a situation happen would
have a bug. It wouldn't work on other machines, for example. So I am
not really worried by this problem. It matters only to programs
that provide some form of exception handling, but Fortran programs
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Hi, All:

I recently hope to calculate explicitly the exchange energy of atoms from
the restricted Hartree-Fock wavefunction of Clementi and Roetti. I
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>> On 97/06/30 at 11:34 +0100, <CAVALLO@CHEMNA.DICHI.UNINA.IT> wrote:

>> I would like to receive informations on comparisons of MD simulations
>> in vacuo with simulations done by using explicit solvents.
>> [...]
>                    !!! NO INFORMATIONS AT ALL !!!
>
>> This is the only work I know of: S. Yun-yu, W. Lu & W.F. Van
Gunsteren, "On
>> the approximation of solvent effects on the conformation and dynamics
of
>> cyclosporin A by stochastic dynamics simulation techniques", Molec.
>> Simulation 1988, 1, 369-388. It compares water MD, CCl4 MD and vacuum
SD.

>> Hope this helps,

>> Pieter


I would like to add that there are a number of papers from Prof. David
Beveridge's lab at Wesleyan University  examining the effects of
Implicit/Explicit Solvation and in vacuo on protein and DNA systems,
using the Gromos Force Field.  The group has also carried out studies
comparing different solvation models and counter ion treatment for
oligonucleotides employing AMBER and GROMOS force fields.  I don't have
the references handy right now but a simple literature search should
find some of the recent papers!

Hope this helps..

Vijay

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Troy Wymore wrote:
> dynamics unformat input_unit 1 output_unit 2
> 
> I get the following on the screen (not in output file):
> 
> sue: unformatted io not allowed
> apparent state: unit 2 named mic_subpn2_dyn5c.trj
> last format:
> lately reading sequential unformatted external IO
> *** Execution Terminated (103) ***

This may seem obvious, but that's what makes it easy to overlook: did
you check to make sure you opened unit 2 as FILE and not CARD?

I usually use the same script with slight modifications to do the FORM
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types on the first run.

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Hi, everybody,
I'm new in molecular modeling area and I need some reviews on Gaussian
and Hyperchem (papers published and discussions on the net). I'm 
wondering if there is anybody out there who is experienced in the area
would share his/her knowledge and provide some references?
Thank you very much for you help.

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