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Dear Georg,
I have testet DFT orbital energies for some small and medium sized 
organic systems with pi-bonds (acetylene oligomers, thiophene monomer 
through trimer, pyrrole and similar systems). There are significant 
differences between LSDA and hybrid methods. The paper will soon appear 
in the Journal of Computational Chemistry.

 To summarize: The IPs (negative HOMO energies) are closer to experiment 
with hybrid functionals than at LSDA. The P86 correlation functional 
seems to work better than the LYP correlation functional. All IPs with 
DFT are smaller than experimental values (about 0.5 - 1 eV) and smaller than 
at HF with the same basis set which are quite close to experiment. In my 
limited data set it looks like there is little depenedence of the quality 
of IP on the size of the system.

 The negative LUMO energies used as EAs are by far superior with all DFT 
methods than with HF. LSDA works slightly better than hybrid  
functionals. Again the P86 correlation functional works better than LYP. 
I obtained the "experimental EAs" using experimental IPs and excitation 
energies. So they have to be treated with some caution. It looks like the 
agreement improves as the systems get larger. But the data are more than 
insecure. 

According to this, DFT corrects for the main deficiency of HF theory and 
brings the LUMO down. I reasoned that this must have to do with the error 
in the Coulomb terms in HF which seems to be absent in DFT. I was pleased 
to see that Baerends et al. came to a similar conclusion in their feature 
article in J. Phys. Chem.

 The main error in DFT seems to be due to the IP and not to the EA. Taking the 
difference between the two, I got very nice excitation energies. These 
improve as the systems get larger. The agreement is pretty poor for 
monomers but with trimers of purrole and thiophene the excitation 
energies become good.

I also tried what happens when the weight of the HF exchange is 
increased. I got the best HOMO-LUMO gaps with 30% HF exchange instead of 
20%. Geometries were not changed by this. For ethylene I increased the HF 
exchange stepwise up to 100%. There is no convergence. With 100% HF 
exchange the gap is as bad as with HF but the orbital levels are shifted 
compared to those at HF. So all this fudging is empirical and can - at 
least for now - not be put on solid theoretical ground. 

As for my personel interest in the band gaps of conducting polymers this 
is good enough. Needless to say that I had major problems to publish 
this. It took 1 1/2 years and one reviewer said it was not interesting 
enough for rapid publication.  But the first paper is in press now as 
mentioned above. There will be two more papers extending these findings 
to band gaps of polymers by extrapolation. These are submitted to J. 
Phys. Chem. and Synth. Met. Maybe in two years you can read them.

By the way. You're right I am German. I keep writing in English so more 
people can read it.

 Cheers,

Dr. Ulrike Salzner
e-mail: salzner@fen.bilkent.edu.tr
Tel.: (312) 2664000 ext.2122

Department of Chemistry
Bilkent University
06533 Bilkent, Ankara
Turkey

On Fri, 10 Oct 1997, Georg Schreckenbach wrote:

> Dear CCL readers,
> 
> is anybody aware of papers that study DFT orbital energies?
> More precisely, I would like to learn how those orbital energies
> (Kohn-Sham eigenvalues) are different in hybrid methods like
> B3LYP as compared to GGAs like BP86 or PW91, or also as
> compared to the LDA. If there are systematic differences (which
> I am sure is the case) then I would like to know how they can
> be understood.
>     There was recently some discussion on the
> list about the possible physical meaning of the Kohn-Sham
> eigenvalues. While this is an interesting subject in itself,
> it is, this time, *not* my question.
> 
> Best regards, Georg
> 
> P.S. I will summarize to the CCL as usual.
> 
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Dear CCL,

Sorry for slighty off topic question, but it is concerned with
runnig gaussian 94 on SGI machines having xfs filesystems ...
This is not problem of Gaussian, but rather of SGI but 
maybe someone can help me.
The proble is that new 64-bit xfs filesystems allows for 
writing files "with holes" - it take place when one opens
file for direct access which will have known number  of records.
Then if one writes out first record and last record to the file, the 
system "thinks" like all file is filled. So if you make
`ls -l ` or use system call  'stat' or 'fstat' or its 64-bit equivalents
then one gets size of file e.g. 1Gb. But in fact it occupies  2 blocks
on the disk. So if one makes `du -k -a file`, one gets e.q. 1kb instead of 1Gb.
Until one does not (1) split files between disks or does not (2) perform e.g. MP2 calcs
which involves MAXDISK keyword, it is not important. But in case (1) e.g.
%rwf=/tmp/1.rwf,400Mb,/temp/2.rwf,-1
when I have local xfs filesystem with 400Mb free space and NFS (slow) /temp
filesystem, g94 takes 50 Mb from /tmp and rest integrals (550Mb) puts on slow 
/temp instead of much better 400MB on /tmp and 200 MB on /temp. Of course if
one checks `ls -l /tmp/1.rwf` it shows 400MB but in fact it has 50Mb. We had such
curious situations that on a 3GB disk we had  3 files of 3Gb size each ( in fact
each was smaller than 200Mb).
Similar behaviour is in case (2)

Does anyone has solution for that ? 
Thanks in advance

G.Bakalarski


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Hi netters,

10 days ago a posted the following question to list :

> Hi netters,
> from the answers I got to my previous question concerning a program
> to perform transition state searches I learned, that it was not very
> precise.  The original question was :
> > I am looking for a free software package to perform transition
> > state searches on molecular potential energy surfaces (computed
> > on the fly !).
> But I am really looking for such a program independent
> of an ab initio or semi-empirical package. I.e. I am looking for
> a stand-alone program which just reads energies, gradients, and
> (hopefully not) hessians, computed by any semi-empirical, force-field,
> or ab initio program, and then perform the search. And even better
> would be, if such a program would have implemented several different
> methods, like the one by Schlegel, Bofill, Quapp, Zerner, Baker,
> Ruedenberg, Carter, and many, many others. If anyone know such a program
> (for free), please mail me. I would greatly appreciate any help.

Because some people ask for a summary, here it is. As expected,
it seams that there is no such program on the market.

---------------------------------------------
>      From: 
>           Gustavo de Miranda Seabra <seabra@NPD.UFPE.BR>
> Hi Dr. Heinz, 
>     I would like to thank you for your help. It really helped me.
> About your question, I think the GAMESS package has the feature
> you´re looking for. It´s free, and you can find it at:
> 
> GAMESS Home Page:
> http://www.msg.ameslab.gov/GAMESS/GAMESS.html
-----------------------------------------------------------------
> From: 
>        Ioan SILAGHI-DUMITRESCU <isi@chem.ubbcluj.ro>
> Heinz,
> Try Mopac6 from the ccl archive. Ioan
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> From: 
>        "Peter Hilfenhaus" <philfen@dabulls.chem.wisc.edu>
> Dear Heinz,
> 
> There are some MM packages around but these seem to work just for small organic
> systems (often Diels Alder).
> I tried the transition state search routine iin UFF2 (from A.K. Rappe, Colorado
> State University; you might get it for free, but I am not sure) for oxidative
> addition reactions at transition metal complexes and the results were just
> poor.
> Another possibility could be Frank Jensen (MM2 force field; JACS 1992, 114,
> 1596).
> 
> Now I am doing this business in Gaussian. Pretty expensive but it works.
> 
> I would greatly appreciate if you could mail me a summary (I am still looking
> for something faster),
> 
> Ciao and Tschuessie,
> 
> Peter
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> From: 
>        "Stavrev, Krassimir" <stavrev@hyper.com>
> Heinz: You may with to try the evaluation copy of HyperChem 5.02; it has
> TS search in it - www.hyper.com has the directions to the download site.
> 
> Regards,
> Krassimir
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> From: 
>        Frank Jensen <frj@gamma.dou.dk>
>         Heinz,
>         I doubt such a stand along package exist, or if it does, that
> the authors wnat to give it away for free.
>         The Gamess-US program has some of the different TS methods you
> mentioned included, and since the source code comes for free, you can
> at least take a look at that.
>         Frank
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> From: 
>        TOPPER ROBERT <topper@cooper.edu>
> Hi,
> With respect to your CCL question, POLYRATE (by Don Truhlar
> and his coworkers at Minnesota) should fill your bill.
> 
> best,
> robert topper
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> From: 
>        noertema@theochem.tu-muenchen.de (Folke Noertemann)
> Hello Heinz,
>  not that I could contribute something really helpful,but as you know I am
> currently trying to write such a standalone package by myself (I can
> spend now 1day/week in average to do this!) and thus I am interested to
> find out if this kind of package already exists ... did you get any responses?
> 
> Greetings from Munich,
>   Folke
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> From: 
>        Kim Bolton <kim@traj.chem.wayne.edu>
> Dear Heinz,
> 
> I am very interested in the responses that you get to this question.
> We are also looking for the same code.
> 
> Kim.  kim@traj.chem.wayne.edu
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Subject: Absorption spectra from ZINDO/S


Dear CCLers

       We try to calculate the UV-VIS absorption spectra of some orgnic
compounds
such as 5,12- and 5,11-naphthacenequinones by ZINDO/S semiempirical method.
Geometry optimization of these molecules was obtained using the AM1 method (as
in paper Chem.Phys.Lett. 250 (1996) 31-39). We use HYPERCHEM 4.5 program
package. If you are interesded in detailed chemical formula of compounds
that are
actual for our applications we may send them to you separately.
       However the calculated values of exited level energy are incorrect.
Moreover
the results of energy calculations for simple molecules taken as an example
(like
benzene, naphthalene and others) are also incorrect. We find that in
Semi-empirical
Options Dialog Box (Setup Menu) for ZINDO/S method there are the Overlap
Weighting Factors, which can be manually modified in the region 0-2. Default
values of sigma-sigma parameter is 1,267 and pi-pi parameter is 0,64.

So the questions is:

1.   Whether we can change these parameters to calculate the correct absorption
spectra and how the values of these parameters ought to be estimated?

And in addition:

2.   What are the best to your knowledge program packs (semi- or ab initio),
which allow
reasonable calculation of solid state optical properties (nonlinearity,
propagation, etc.)?

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From: Gustavo de Miranda Seabra <seabra@NPD.UFPE.BR>
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Hello all,

    I'm wondering if there is someone who can help me on GAMESS. I'm
trying to
run a test calculation on tetrahedral ZrF4, but when I enter with the
geometry unique
atoms, GAMESS gives me an octahedra! My question is simple: What's
wrong?
The input and the result I have is following below. I thank in advance
any help you
could give-me.

INPUT:

 $CONTRL SCFTYP=UHF RUNTYP=OPTIMIZE ECP=SBK $END
 $CONTRL EXETYP=CHECK $END
 $DATA
 --  Geometria de equilibrio do ZrF4
 TD

Zircon 40 0.0 0.0 0.0
 SBK

Fluor   9 0.0 0.0 2.15
 N31  6

 $END

OUTPUT:
          INTERNUCLEAR DISTANCES (ANGS.)
          ------------------------------

                    ZIRCON         FLUOR          FLUOR
FLUOR          FLUOR          FLUOR          FLUOR

  1  ZIRCON          0.0000000      2.1500000 *    2.1500000 *
2.1500000 *    2.1500000 *    2.1500000 *    2.1500000 *
  2  FLUOR           2.1500000 *    0.0000000      3.0405592
3.0405592      3.0405592      3.0405592      4.3000000
  3  FLUOR           2.1500000 *    3.0405592      0.0000000
4.3000000      3.0405592      3.0405592      3.0405592
  4  FLUOR           2.1500000 *    3.0405592      4.3000000
0.0000000      3.0405592      3.0405592      3.0405592
  5  FLUOR           2.1500000 *    3.0405592      3.0405592
3.0405592      0.0000000      4.3000000      3.0405592
  6  FLUOR           2.1500000 *    3.0405592      3.0405592
3.0405592      4.3000000      0.0000000      3.0405592
  7  FLUOR           2.1500000 *    4.3000000      3.0405592
3.0405592      3.0405592      3.0405592      0.0000000

  * ... LESS THAN  3.000


--

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                            Gustavo de Miranda Seabra
MSc Student in Chemistry                     E-Mail: seabra@npd.ufpe.br
Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - Recife - Pernambuco - Brazil
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Dear Eugene,

HyperChem or any other packages will give right results if 
one inputs the right parameters. Hence it is important that
one reads the theoretical background behind all those boxes
given in the softwares, in your case, Overlap Weighting Factors.

ZINDO/S is INDO/S method developed by Zerner and coworkers.
Zerner's review in 

Reviews in Computational Chemistry Vol. 2 (1991) pages 313

gives the value of pi-pi interaction as 0.585 as universal parameter.


It points to all relevant literature. 

The value of 0.64 comes from calculations based upon metal complexes.
(see papers of Tom Cundari, Zerner and Larsson).


Please look at this reviews and references therein.

Satyam


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    DNA: Insulator or Wire ?  C&EN February 24, 1997
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Dr. Satyam Priyadarshy                
Research Assitant Professor           Department of Chemistry
University of Pittsburgh              Pittsburgh, PA 15260
Phone: 412-624-8200 Extn 8589         Fax: 412-624-8589
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On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Eugene G. Noda wrote:

> Dear CCLers
> 
>        We try to calculate the UV-VIS absorption spectra of some orgnic
> compounds
> such as 5,12- and 5,11-naphthacenequinones by ZINDO/S semiempirical method.
> Geometry optimization of these molecules was obtained using the AM1 method (as
> in paper Chem.Phys.Lett. 250 (1996) 31-39). We use HYPERCHEM 4.5 program
> package. If you are interesded in detailed chemical formula of compounds
> that are
> actual for our applications we may send them to you separately.
>        However the calculated values of exited level energy are incorrect.
> Moreover
> the results of energy calculations for simple molecules taken as an example
> (like
> benzene, naphthalene and others) are also incorrect. We find that in
> Semi-empirical
> Options Dialog Box (Setup Menu) for ZINDO/S method there are the Overlap
> Weighting Factors, which can be manually modified in the region 0-2. Default
> values of sigma-sigma parameter is 1,267 and pi-pi parameter is 0,64.
> 
> So the questions is:
> 
> 1.   Whether we can change these parameters to calculate the correct absorption
> spectra and how the values of these parameters ought to be estimated?
> 
> And in addition:
> 
> 2.   What are the best to your knowledge program packs (semi- or ab initio),
> which allow
> reasonable calculation of solid state optical properties (nonlinearity,
> propagation, etc.)?
> 
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