From tajkhors@mbp-sgi7.inet.dkfz-heidelberg.de Thu Feb 26 06:14:22 1998 Received: from mbp-sgi7.inet.dkfz-heidelberg.de for tajkhors@mbp-sgi7.inet.dkfz-heidelberg.de by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/950822.1) id FAA06513; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 05:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by mbp-sgi7.inet.dkfz-heidelberg.de (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/940406.SGI.AUTO) for chemistry@www.ccl.net id LAA21822; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:21:25 -0800 From: "Emadeddin Tajkhorshid" Message-Id: <9802261121.ZM21820@mbp-sgi7.inet.dkfz-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:21:17 -0800 Reply-To: E.Tajkhorshid@DKFZ-Heidelberg.de X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: chemistry@www.ccl.net (Computational Chemistry List) Subject: R-C=C-R atom type Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear CCLers I have a ligand which contains two conjugated doule bonds in its dtructure. R-C=C-C=C-R I am wondering for the proper atom type for the SP2 carbons and their hydrogens in AMBER. Is there any explicit atom type for these atoms or do I have to consider one of the available SP2 carbons which is normally used for the aromatic rings or carbonyl group? Thanx -- Emad ********************************************************************* E. Tajkhorshid German Cancer Research Center; DKFZ Tel: +49 6221 42 2340 Dept. Molecular Biophysics (0810) FAX: +49 6221 42 2333 P.O.Box 101949 69009 Heidelberg, FRG Email: E.Tajkhorshid@DKFZ-Heidelberg.de ********************************************************************* * "Never express yourself more clearly than you think." -Niels Bohr * ********************************************************************* From pang@iris.chem.cuhk.edu.hk Thu Feb 26 07:14:23 1998 Received: from iris.chem.cuhk.edu.hk for pang@iris.chem.cuhk.edu.hk by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/950822.1) id GAA06724; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 06:14:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by iris.chem.cuhk.edu.hk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id TAA18198; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 19:15:56 +0800 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 19:15:48 +0800 (HKT) From: Pang Siu Kwong To: chemistry@www.ccl.net Subject: VShift in Gaussian 94 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! 'VShift' in Gaussian 94 is a common method to solve the convergence problem. How to know the value of VShift which is suitable? Thank you for your attention! Patrick Pang From root@liposome.genebee.msu.su Tue Feb 24 13:18:07 1998 Received: from liposome.genebee.msu.su for root@liposome.genebee.msu.su by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/950822.1) id MAA24471; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 12:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by liposome.genebee.msu.su (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA08940 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:03:12 +0300 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:03:11 +0300 (MSK) From: root To: chemistry@www.ccl.net Subject: automatical generation of polypeptide / oligo coordinates? Message-ID: Dear CCLers, I'm fairly certain there is a program/script capable of generating a polypeptide / oligo e.g. in linear conformation just from the primary structure (amino acid sequence) data somewhere out there. Corina-generated structures from SMILES seem to lack important data, preventing both XPLOR and Solvate from reading them (? -- feel free to correct me). I wanted to generate pdb/psf pairs 10-30 residue-oligos for subsequent MD runs. In the CCL archive there seems to be no mentioning of such an animal, which is strange. Before I start reinventing the wheel: anybody aware of such a thing? It can be an XPLOR script, but a simple language such as C/Perl/Python would be preferable. Regards, Eugene Leitl P. S. When compensating protein polyelectrolyte (e.g. polylysine) charges with counterions (e.g. chloride) is using HETATM the canonical thing to do, or do ATOMs suffice? P. P. S. Anybody knows why RasMol chooses to kill CONECT when saving a just-read pdb file? From Jan.R.Karlson@eu.apbiotech.com Wed Feb 25 09:14:17 1998 Received: from ns.apbiotech.com for Jan.R.Karlson@eu.apbiotech.com by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/950822.1) id JAA00274; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 09:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from seupp_ln7.bt.pharmacia.se (unverified [193.235.253.52]) by ns.apbiotech.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:05:59 +0100 Received: from eu.apbiotech.com (unverified [193.235.253.39]) by seupp_ln7.bt.pharmacia.se (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:07:09 +0100 Received: from ccMail by eu.apbiotech.com (IMA Internet Exchange 2.11 Enterprise) id 00032627; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:14:51 +0000 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:02:49 +0000 Message-ID: <00032627.3100@eu.apbiotech.com> From: Jan.R.Karlson@eu.apbiotech.com (Jan R Karlson) Subject: modified aminoacids/peptides.... To: chemistry@www.ccl.net Is there any program wich can calculate different parameters for peptides like hydrophobisity, pI, charges. Exist programs which take into account modified aminoacids????? I am intrested in interaction with peptides and surfaces on chromatographic media. Jan Roger karlson From katalin@pharma.univ-montp1.fr Wed Feb 25 12:14:14 1998 Received: from balard.pharma.univ-montp1.fr for katalin@pharma.univ-montp1.fr by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/950822.1) id LAA01567; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from cadenette.pharma.univ-montp1.fr (cadenette [193.51.156.105]) by balard.pharma.univ-montp1.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA20004 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:27:09 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:27:09 +0100 Message-Id: <199802251627.RAA20004@balard.pharma.univ-montp1.fr> X-Sender: katalin@balard.pharma.univ-montp1.fr (Unverified) To: chemistry@www.ccl.net From: katalin@pharma.univ-montp1.fr (Katalin KESERU) dear netters! I'm interested in the calculation (prediction) the values logP or water solubility of the quaterner ammonium compounds. best regards katalin From root@liposome.genebee.msu.su Wed Feb 25 14:14:22 1998 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 09:51:52 -0800 From: Elaine Tschorn To: office@foresight.org Subject: Foresight Conference on Molecular Nanotechnology Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:51:07 +0300 (MSK) Resent-From: Eugene Leitl Resent-To: root Sixth Foresight Conference on Molecular Nanotechnology http://www.foresight.org/conference/MNT6/ Call for Abstracts November 12-15, 1998 at the Westin Hotel in Santa Clara, CA. An intensive Tutorial on Critical Enabling Technologies for Nanotechnology will be held on November 12. Two annual $5000 Feynman Prizes in Molecular Nanotechnology, one each for experimental and theoretical work, will be presented. See http://www.foresight.org/FI/1997Feynman.html for details on last year's prize. 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Box 61058 Palo Alto, CA 94306 USA tel. 650-917-1122 fax 650-917-1123 inform@foresight.org From varnai@bellatrix.pcl.ox.ac.uk Wed Feb 25 16:14:16 1998 Received: from oxmail4.ox.ac.uk for varnai@bellatrix.pcl.ox.ac.uk by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/950822.1) id QAA03565; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 16:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from joule.pcl (actually host joule.pcl.ox.ac.uk) by oxmail4 with SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:07:54 +0000 Received: from bellatrix.pcl (bellatrix.pcl [163.1.35.131]) by joule.pcl (8.8.6/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA03457 for <@joule.pcl:CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net>; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:07:09 GMT Received: by bellatrix.pcl (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net id UAA24535; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:59:34 GMT From: varnai@bellatrix.pcl.ox.ac.uk (Peter Varnai) Message-Id: <199802252059.UAA24535@bellatrix.pcl> Subject: extended electrostatics in CHARMM To: CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:59:31 +0000 (GMT) Dear CCLers, "Extended" electrostatic calculation can provide an efficient way to approximate the total electrostatic interaction. The electrostatic term has two contribution: 1, conventional pairwise summation (spatially close particles) 2, multipole approximation (spatially distant particles) To reproduce the electrostatic energy calculated without cutoff, one adds the above terms. In the first term there is NO smoothing. Here comes my questions: in CHARMM manual it is written that "The interactions between particles within CUTNB are truncated rather than having a SHIFt or SWITch function applied." Unfortunately, the code uses switch function in the electrostatic calculation. Does anybody know how to get around this problem? Does anybody have positive/negative experiences with this model? Thank you, Peter Varnai Oxford University UK From HILAL2@FRCU.EUN.EG Thu Feb 26 10:14:25 1998 Received: from FRCU.EUN.EG for HILAL2@FRCU.EUN.EG by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/950822.1) id JAA08042; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:35:20 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from FRCU.EUN.EG by FRCU.EUN.EG (PMDF V5.1-9 #20502) id <01IU1IGTKOGW0009UV@FRCU.EUN.EG> for chemistry@www.ccl.net; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:31:45 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:31:37 +0200 Subject: energy partitioning To: chemistry@www.ccl.net, CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net Message-id: <01IU1IGTZOLE0009UV@FRCU.EUN.EG> X-VMS-To: IN%"chemistry@www.ccl.net" >CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Dear CClers I am appreciated greatly if any one give me some information how I calculate completely the energy patitioning of a structure or geometry which is optimized under GAMESS program using split-valence basis sets, 31-6G. Thank In advance Ahmad Omar Cairo university Chem. Dep. From jkl@ccl.net Thu Feb 26 10:22:32 1998 Received: from ccl.net for jkl@ccl.net by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/950822.1) id KAA08703; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:06:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from krakow.ccl.net (krakow.ccl.net [192.148.249.195]) by ccl.net (8.8.6/8.8.6/OSC 1.1) with ESMTP id KAA08308; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:06:08 -0500 (EST) From: Jan Labanowski Received: for jkl@ccl.net by krakow.ccl.net (8.8.3/920428.1525) id KAA16908; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:06:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:06:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802261506.KAA16908@krakow.ccl.net> To: chemistry@www.ccl.net Subject: 98.04.20-22 Workshop: Comp. Methods in Toxicology, Dayton, OH Cc: jkl@ccl.net The text of this announcement is also available at Computational Chemistry Conference List at: http://www.ccl.net/cca/info/conferencelist.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- COMPUTATIONAL METHODS IN TOXICOLOGY April 20-22, 1998 Holiday Inn/I-675, Dayton, Ohio, USA Organizing Committee: John Frazier (AFRL/HEST) Ruth Pachter (AFRL/MLPJ & ASC) Kevin Geiss (AFRL/HEST) Steven Trohalaki (AFRL/MLPJ) Jan Labanowski (ASC/ARL & OSC) Theresa Windus (ASC & OSC) International workshop: "Computational Methods in Toxicology" organized by: - Air Force Research Laboratory (Operational Toxicology Branch of the Human Effectiveness Directorate, Materials & Manufacturing Directorate, and Air Force Office of Scientific Research.) - Aeronautical Systems Center (Major Shared Resource Center for High Performance Computing) through the Programming Environment and Training Program. will be held at Holiday Inn/I-675, Dayton, Ohio, USA. The workshop is open to all US and international participants from Industry, Government, or Academic/Non-profit sectors but is limited to 60 participants. Please register promptly since the priority will be given to preregistered participants. Topic Areas: Research applications of QSAR/SARs, Tools for development of new QSAR/SARs, Molecular modeling and simulation in toxicology, Commercially available software products. Workshop Format: Oral presentations by invited speakers, Roundtable discussion with panel of invited speakers, Poster session open for presentations by attendees. Deadlines: Registration Deadline: March 31, 1998. Abstract Submission Deadline: March 16, 1998. List of invited speakers: Marilyn Arnott - LogiChem Subhash Basak - University of Minnesota Romualdo Benigni - Instituto Superiore di Sanita, IT Doug Bristol - NIH/NIEHS, RTP James Devillers - CTIS, Lyon, FR Kurt Enslein - Health Designs, Inc, NY Nigel Greene - LHASA , UK William C. 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Thank you, The Organizers: toxicology@ccl.net ========================================================================= The text of this announcement is also available at Computational Chemistry Conference List at: http://www.ccl.net/cca/info/conferencelist.html From smb@smb.chem.niu.edu Thu Feb 26 11:14:38 1998 Received: from cz2.chem.niu.edu for smb@smb.chem.niu.edu by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/950822.1) id KAA08787; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from cz.chem.niu.edu by cz2.chem.niu.edu via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net id AA21478; Thu, 26 Feb 98 08:44:37 -0600 Received: from smb.chem.niu.edu by cz.chem.niu.edu via SMTP (920330.SGI/890607.SGI) (for @cz2.chem.niu.edu:CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net) id AA08850; Thu, 26 Feb 98 09:14:30 -0600 Received: from smb by smb.chem.niu.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id JAA17813; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:14:41 -0600 Sender: smb@smb.chem.niu.edu Message-Id: <34F586E0.15FB@smb.chem.niu.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:14:40 -0600 From: Steven Bachrach X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP12) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: computational chemistry list Subject: Dallas ACS COMP Technical Program Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The full technical program for the Division of Computers in Chemistry at the Spring ACS Meeting in Dallas is now available from the COMP web page: http://hackberry.chem.niu.edu/COMP/ Steve -- Steven Bachrach Department of Chemistry Northern Illinois University DeKalb, Il 60115 Phone: (815)753-6863 smb@smb.chem.niu.edu Fax: (815)753-4802 From pieter.stouten@dupontmerck.com Thu Feb 26 11:26:41 1998 Received: from gatekeeper.dupontmerck.com for pieter.stouten@dupontmerck.com by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/950822.1) id KAA08860; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:25:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by gatekeeper.dupontmerck.com; id KAA19994; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(158.117.31.71) by gatekeeper.dupontmerck.com via smap (3.2) id xma019992; Thu, 26 Feb 98 10:25:10 -0500 Received: from carbon.dmpc.com by DMPHUB.dmpc.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #24771) with ESMTP id <01IU16BCBP0W00333D@DMPHUB.dmpc.com>; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:25:09 EST Received: from [158.117.170.103] (esm170103.dmpc.com [158.117.170.103]) by carbon.dmpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA17743; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:25:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:23:20 -0500 From: Pieter Stouten Subject: Re: CCL:R-C=C-R atom type In-reply-to: <9802261121.ZM21820@mbp-sgi7.inet.dkfz-heidelberg.de> X-Sender: stoutepf@carbon.dmpc.com To: E.Tajkhorshid@DKFZ-Heidelberg.de Cc: chemistry@www.ccl.net (Computational Chemistry List) Message-id: X-Organization: The DuPont Merck Pharmaceutical Company MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 4.0 for Macintosh Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On 98/02/26 at 11:21 -0800, Emadeddin Tajkhorshid wrote: >I have a ligand which contains two conjugated doule bonds in its dtructure. > >R-C=C-C=C-R > >I am wondering for the proper atom type for the SP2 carbons and their >hydrogens in AMBER. Is there any explicit atom type for these atoms or >do I have to consider one of the available SP2 carbons which is normally >used for the aromatic rings or carbonyl group? > Sounds like the poly-ene problem. Typically, these systems are not aromatic and then there is a length difference between the single and double bonds. If all the carbons have the same atom type, then there is no way to distinguish between the single and double bonds. There are two principle solutions (but I have no clue how Amber might handle this): 1) using alternating atom types for adjacent carbon pairs (e.g. -Cx=Cx-Cy=Cy-Cx=Cx-Cy=Cy etc.) and use identical (double bond) lengths and force constants for "like" atom pairs Cx=Cx and Cy=Cy and different (single bond) lengths and force constants for "unlike" pairs Cx-Cy. 2) using explicit bond orders as is done e.g. in MSI's CFF96. Good luck, Pieter Stouten || Computer Aided Drug Design Group || Free advice is The DuPont Merck Pharmaceutical Company || seldom cheap P.O. Box 80500, Wilmington, DE 19880-0500 || Phone: +1 (302) 695 3515 || (Ferengi Rule Of Fax: +1 (302) 695 9090 || Acquisition #59) Internet: pieter.stouten@dupontmerck.com || Web: http://www.halcyon.com/stouten/ || From daniel.parish@roche.com Thu Feb 26 11:32:51 1998 Received: from gecko.pal.roche.com for daniel.parish@roche.com by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/950822.1) id KAA09010; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from pdxpr6 (pdxpr6.pal.roche.com [141.167.40.118]) by gecko.pal.roche.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id HAA09524; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 07:41:53 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980226074010.0090cc60@gecko.pal.roche.com> X-Sender: daniel@gecko.pal.roche.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 07:40:10 -0800 To: chemistry@www.ccl.net From: Daniel Parish Subject: Summary: Mailing list for MSI's Catalyst software Cc: daniel.parish@roche.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980210095150.0091b3f0@gecko.pal.roche.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear CCLers, Earlier in the month I asked for feedback concerning the establishment of an independent Catalyst mailing list. To date I have received a total of 10 responses in favor of the idea and 1 opposed to it. I also received responses from 2 MSI scientists asking to be included, which I believe would be important for the success of the list. While not quite the level of response I expected, I think this is a reasonable number of participants to get things started. If the list results in some useful discussions, etc., I'm sure we will be able to attract more users as time progresses. I will now look into where/how to get this set up and will send out another email when it is ready to go. Regards, Daniel At 09:51 AM 2/10/98 -0800, I wrote: >Greetings CCLers, > >For some time now I have been toying with the idea of starting a mailing >list specifically for users of the software package Catalyst. For those of >you unfamiliar with it, Catalyst is a commercial pharmacophore >generation/database searching package sold by MSI. Although MSI maintains >its own mailing list for Catalyst (catalyst-l), traffic on their list >appears to be virtually nonexistent. I'm not sure whether this reflects a >lack of need for such a list or whether users are uncomfortable with the >list because it is maintained by MSI. > >I'd like some feedback on whether you think an independent catalyst mailing >list would be useful and who among you would be interested in >subscribing/contributing to such a list if it were available. If there is >sufficient interest I will be happy to maintain this new list and, having a >great deal of practical (and impractical :^) ) experience using Catalyst, >happy to share my expertise as well. > >Please email your comments directly to me and I >will summarize to the list if necessary. > __*_____Daniel W. Parish ____*_____Roche Bioscience ______*_____daniel.parish@roche.com ________*_____650/855-6314 (Phone) 650/852-1875 (FAX)