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Dear CCL-lers,


Some days ago I asked the following question:

> My question concerns the computation of
> NMR/magnetic properties under Gaussian 94.
>
> I am interested in generating a plot of the current density.
> When using the NMR=CSGT or NMR=IGAIM keyword, Gaussian 94
> prints only one current density tensor, but what I need is
> a calculation of the current density tensor over a
> 3-dimensional grid of points.
>
> Is it possible to do this with Gaussian 94? When not, which
> program is capable of doing such a job?

Here is the only answer I received:

>  Dr. Geuenich,
>
>   G94 does not include this capability.  I know that  some work
> by Todd Keith with ProAIMS and the IGAIM  option he worked on could
> generate this but I don't believe it is in the distributed  version of

> ProAIM.

Thanks to D. J. Fox.




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QBIC (Quantum BioInorganic Chemistry) Meeting
University of Warwick, UK, July 29-31 1999
Preliminary Announcement

Introduction

We are pleased to extend an invitation to all interested parties to attend this 
two-day meeting (a satellite of the WATOC'99 Congress) which will focus on
the role of computational techniques in bioinorganic chemistry. Among those 
who have already accepted invitations to speak are 
                                                              
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T. Clark, University of Erlangen-Nuernberg, Germany 
M. Hall, Texas A&M University, USA
I. Hillier, University of Manchester, UK
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Date and Location

The meeting will take place from lunchtime on Thursday July 29th 1999 to 
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Abstracts

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students. 

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Dear Netters:

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Dear CCL'ers,
I tried to find TS between two minima with Gaussian 94.  All standard
ways like
OPT=TS  or QST2  or QST3 failed.  When I did 'manual' search for
changing one
angle which realy differs both structure - opening of 3-membered ring
(it means
OPT=Z-MATRIX and then in variables deklaration: a1=90.0 S 10 0.01) I
found value
for witch energii was the highest. FREQ calculations shows for this
structure
two negative frequencies. When I started for the same input
OPT=(saddle=2)
I became in log-file:
"Optimization stopped.
  -- Wrong number of Negative eigenvalues: Desiered=  2  Actual=  0
  -- Flag reset to prevent archiving."

So my question: What are this eigenvalues? I've expected after
IR-calculation,
that I should be near saddle point or minima. And second: Is there any
other
way to find TS or saddle point?

thanks in advance


       Krzys Radacki
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<TT>Dear CCL'ers,</TT>
<BR><TT>I tried to find TS between two minima with Gaussian 94.&nbsp; All
standard ways like</TT>
<BR><TT>OPT=TS&nbsp; or QST2&nbsp; or QST3 failed.&nbsp; When I did 'manual'
search for changing one</TT>
<BR><TT>angle which realy differs both structure - opening of 3-membered
ring (it means</TT>
<BR><TT>OPT=Z-MATRIX and then in variables deklaration: a1=90.0 S 10 0.01)
I found value</TT>
<BR><TT>for witch energii was the highest. FREQ calculations shows for
this structure</TT>
<BR><TT>two negative frequencies. When I started for the same input OPT=(saddle=2)</TT>
<BR><TT>I became in log-file:</TT>
<BR><TT>"Optimization stopped.</TT>
<BR><TT>&nbsp; -- Wrong number of Negative eigenvalues: Desiered=&nbsp;
2&nbsp; Actual=&nbsp; 0</TT>
<BR><TT>&nbsp; -- Flag reset to prevent archiving."</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>So my question: <B>What are this eigenvalues?</B> I've expected
after IR-calculation,</TT>
<BR><TT>that I should be near saddle point or minima. And second: <B>Is
there any other</B></TT>
<BR><B><TT>way to find TS or saddle point?</TT></B><TT></TT>

<P><TT>thanks in advance</TT>
<PRE><TT>&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Krzys Radacki
&nbsp;_________________________----------------------------------------------------
&nbsp;-------------------------&nbsp;&nbsp; e-mail:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Krys.Radacki@ac.RWTH-Aachen.DE&nbsp; ---
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Yubo Fan writes:

 > Recently, someone told me that SGI O2/150 workstation could run G94 much
 > faster than G94W run on PII/233? Is it true?  Could you please give some
 > advice?
 > 
 > Thank you very much
 > 
 > Y. Fan

Five minutes ago I visited 

http://www.amd.com/news/prodpr/9849.html

which said, among other things:

With its SIMD-style instructions and dual register execution
pipelines, the AMD-K6-2 processor can deliver up to four
floating point results per clock cycle. The AMD-K6-2/333 has
a peak floating point performance of 1.333 Gigaflops,
significantly greater than the 0.333-Gigaflop peak performance
of a Pentium II 333, or the 0.4-Gigaflop peak performance of a
Pentium II 400. The AMD-K6-2/300 has a peak floating point
performance of 1.2 Gigaflops, or four times the 3D processing
power of a Pentium II 300, rated at peak performance of 0.3
Gigaflops.

Pricing and Availability
The AMD-K6-2 processor is available now. The
AMD-K6-2/333 is priced at $369; the AMD-K6-2/300 at
$281; and the AMD-K6-2/266 at $185, each in 1,000-unit
quantities. AMD expects to offer a 350-MHz version in the
third quarter and a 400-MHz version in the fourth quarter of
1998.

Naturally, as mdbnch.f claims for K6/200 512 kBytes 2nd cache/64 MByte 
SDRAM equal performance as PPro 200/256 kBytes 2nd, I'm interested in
seeing according figures (even in absence of gcc optimization for the
K6-2). Any preliminary figures?

Thanks,
Eugene Leitl




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Hi all!

    I looking information about solvation free energy of organic
molecules. Anybody have any reference or internet site, where I can look
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Hi,

Recently, someone told me that SGI O2/150 workstation could run G94 much
faster than G94W run on PII/233? Is it true?  Could you please give some
advice?

Thank you very much

Y. Fan

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Dear CCL'ers,
I tried to find TS between two minima with Gaussian 94.  All standard
ways like
OPT=TS  or QST2  or QST3 failed.  When I did 'manual' search for
changing one
angle which realy differs both structure - opening of 3-membered ring
(it means
OPT=Z-MATRIX and then in variables deklaration: a1=90.0 S 10 0.01) I
found value
for witch energii was the highest. FREQ calculations shows for this
structure
two negative frequencies. When I started for the same input
OPT=(saddle=2)
I became in log-file:
"Optimization stopped.
  -- Wrong number of Negative eigenvalues: Desiered=  2  Actual=  0
  -- Flag reset to prevent archiving."

So my question: What are this eigenvalues? I've expected after
IR-calculation,
that I should be near saddle point or minima. And second: Is there any
other
way to find TS or saddle point?

thanks in advance


       Krzys Radacki
 _________________________----------------------------------------------------
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<TT>Dear CCL'ers,</TT>
<BR><TT>I tried to find TS between two minima with Gaussian 94.&nbsp; All
standard ways like</TT>
<BR><TT>OPT=TS&nbsp; or QST2&nbsp; or QST3 failed.&nbsp; When I did 'manual'
search for changing one</TT>
<BR><TT>angle which realy differs both structure - opening of 3-membered
ring (it means</TT>
<BR><TT>OPT=Z-MATRIX and then in variables deklaration: a1=90.0 S 10 0.01)
I found value</TT>
<BR><TT>for witch energii was the highest. FREQ calculations shows for
this structure</TT>
<BR><TT>two negative frequencies. When I started for the same input OPT=(saddle=2)</TT>
<BR><TT>I became in log-file:</TT>
<BR><TT>"Optimization stopped.</TT>
<BR><TT>&nbsp; -- Wrong number of Negative eigenvalues: Desiered=&nbsp;
2&nbsp; Actual=&nbsp; 0</TT>
<BR><TT>&nbsp; -- Flag reset to prevent archiving."</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>So my question: <B>What are this eigenvalues?</B> I've expected
after IR-calculation,</TT>
<BR><TT>that I should be near saddle point or minima. And second: <B>Is
there any other</B></TT>
<BR><B><TT>way to find TS or saddle point?</TT></B><TT></TT>

<P><TT>thanks in advance</TT>
<PRE><TT>&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Krzys Radacki
&nbsp;_________________________----------------------------------------------------
&nbsp;-------------------------&nbsp;&nbsp; e-mail:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Krys.Radacki@ac.RWTH-Aachen.DE&nbsp; ---
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Yubo Fan writes:

 > Recently, someone told me that SGI O2/150 workstation could run G94 much
 > faster than G94W run on PII/233? Is it true?  Could you please give some
 > advice?
 > 
 > Thank you very much
 > 
 > Y. Fan

Five minutes ago I visited 

http://www.amd.com/news/prodpr/9849.html

which said, among other things:

With its SIMD-style instructions and dual register execution
pipelines, the AMD-K6-2 processor can deliver up to four
floating point results per clock cycle. The AMD-K6-2/333 has
a peak floating point performance of 1.333 Gigaflops,
significantly greater than the 0.333-Gigaflop peak performance
of a Pentium II 333, or the 0.4-Gigaflop peak performance of a
Pentium II 400. The AMD-K6-2/300 has a peak floating point
performance of 1.2 Gigaflops, or four times the 3D processing
power of a Pentium II 300, rated at peak performance of 0.3
Gigaflops.

Pricing and Availability
The AMD-K6-2 processor is available now. The
AMD-K6-2/333 is priced at $369; the AMD-K6-2/300 at
$281; and the AMD-K6-2/266 at $185, each in 1,000-unit
quantities. AMD expects to offer a 350-MHz version in the
third quarter and a 400-MHz version in the fourth quarter of
1998.

Naturally, as mdbnch.f claims for K6/200 512 kBytes 2nd cache/64 MByte 
SDRAM equal performance as PPro 200/256 kBytes 2nd, I'm interested in
seeing according figures (even in absence of gcc optimization for the
K6-2). Any preliminary figures?

Thanks,
Eugene Leitl




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On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 23:10:54, Yubo Fan wrote:

> Recently, someone told me that SGI O2/150 workstation could run G94 much
> faster than G94W run on PII/233? Is it true?  Could you please give some
> advice?

I don't have benchmark results for either exactly an SGI O2/150 or for G94W    
run on PII/233.  However, in the context of extensive benchmarking of G94 on  
a range of computers--from Cray J90 to Alpha and Pentium II/Pro systems--
(paper forthcoming in J. Chem. Inf. Comput. Sci.), we have obtained results
for two systems that are close enough that they might allow extrapolation to
the computers you're looking at.

Aggregate job cpu times (sec) for G94 test jobs 1, 28, 94, 155, 194, 296, 302:
SGI Origin 200, R10000 195 MHz CPU, 64 MB RAM:         923 sec
Pentium II 300 MHz CPU, 64 MB RAM, Windows NT:        1283 sec

So I would venture to guess that an SGI O2/150 workstation would run G94
faster than G94W run on PII/233, but not "much faster".  I'd expect on the
order of 50% more CPU time on the PII/233 compared to SGI O2/150.

Hope this helps.

Marc

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Hi Marc -

I recently got an email asking how to build G94 on a Linux box.  Do you
have this handy or could I direct the person to you for some help ?

Thanks,
- Eric



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> I don't have benchmark results for either exactly an SGI O2/150 or for G94W    
> run on PII/233.  However, in the context of extensive benchmarking of G94 on  
> a range of computers--from Cray J90 to Alpha and Pentium II/Pro systems--
> (paper forthcoming in J. Chem. Inf. Comput. Sci.), we have obtained results
> for two systems that are close enough that they might allow extrapolation to
> the computers you're looking at.
> 
> Aggregate job cpu times (sec) for G94 test jobs 1, 28, 94, 155, 194, 296, 302:
> SGI Origin 200, R10000 195 MHz CPU, 64 MB RAM:         923 sec
> Pentium II 300 MHz CPU, 64 MB RAM, Windows NT:        1283 sec
> 
> So I would venture to guess that an SGI O2/150 workstation would run G94
> faster than G94W run on PII/233, but not "much faster".  I'd expect on the
> order of 50% more CPU time on the PII/233 compared to SGI O2/150.

Sorry, Marc, but this estimation is not valid. R5k is a very different CPU
from R10k. In particular, the R5k was optimized for single precision floating
point. It does not perform well for double precision, which is that Gaussian
is going to excersize. It is also an in-order CPU, and does not tolerate
memory latencies well. The R10k, on the other hand, is super-scalar out-of-
order processor, and has been optimized for double precision floating point.
At the same clock speed, R10k may easily be four times faster for double-
precision floating point than R5k.

The memory substems of O2 and Origin 200 are also very different, and are
designed with different uses in mind. The O2 memory subsystem is not
intended for heavy scientific number crunching (it is optimized for
3D graphics work), and does not perform quite as well for these tasks
as the Origin's memory. 

You can get the detailed technical characteristics of R5k O2 and Origin 200
along with some benchmarks for these machines from the SGI web site at 
http://www.sgi.com if you wish. The basic conclusion is that 150MHz R5k O2
is not going to perform anywhere close to 195 MHz R10k Origin 200 for 
number-crunching programs like Gaussian. If I'll hazard a guess, I would
say that this O2 is going to be at least factor of four slower than this 
particular Origin on direct SCF jobs, with larger factors for more 
memory-intensive jobs (e.g.  MP2). The O2 is definitly NOT going to be 
faster than the PII machine mentioned in your post - simply because it 
is not suited well for the task you are trying to give it.

Regards,

/Serge.P

