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Isaac B. Bersuker wrote:

>I repeat my firm conviction that, in general, there are
>no force fields for transitiom metal systems (see my latest book ...

(The rest of the message deleted).

	I've seen this comment a couple of times now, and I'm getting 
irritated.  This is a very sweeping statement, and insulting to those 
who have produced good work in this area.  It is only true if you 
interprete it like "it is not possible to achieve infinite accuracy 
for all possible TM complexes", but stated like that it would be 
equally true of any method.  For specific classes of complexes, it is 
possible to get high accuracy with force field methods.  It's just a 
question of having a flexible enough force field and doing a careful 
parameterization.  Check out the book by Comba and Hambley, 
"Molecular Modeling of Inorganic Compounds", a new edition is comming 
out soon.  We also have a review in press in Coord.Chem.Rev. on how 
to do this parameterization (don't know when it's going to appear). 
For some classical reviews, see:

C.R. Landis, D.M. Root, T. Cleveland, in: K.B. Lipkowitz and D.B. 
Boyd (Eds.), Reviews in Computational Chemistry, Vol. 6, VCH 
Publishers, Inc., New York, 1995, p. 73-148.

M. Zimmer, Chem. Rev. 95 (1995) 2629.

P. Comba, Comments Inorg. Chem. 16 (1994) 133.

B.P. Hay, Coordination Chemistry Reviews 126 (1993) 177.

(Yes, I know, I left several out, this is just a selection based on 
personal preference).

	The general force fields are also advancing.  You can still 
get whooping errors, and should validate carefully, but I've actually 
been surprised several times by the results you can get without 
specific parameterization.  I'd like to point to UFF (not all 
implementations though :-), VALBOND (not a complete force field, but 
a very interesting addition to UFF), and the force fields in PCModel 
and Spartan.  There are others, but I don't have personal experience 
with them.

	Per-Ola
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Hi Alexandre

Do tell me what is your 'sociological manner'. My approach to the Philosophy 
of CC appeared recently. Let me copy in case you missed it.

July 26 2000 CCL Hi David, greetings to Dr Buyong Ma

You said <Buyong Ma...of some interest to you, although from your comments I 
sense that you are taking a significantly different approach than Ma>

You discern correctly. Buyong Ma (1995), <The Philosophy of Computational 
Chemistry> is refreshing because addressing the wider nature of CC within 
the environment of science, but different to my concern. My point of 
departure is me. The most vital concern in my life is me. I want to survive 
so I can address other things. To survive in real terms, I want to develop a 
holistic integrated view of of reality. The basic unit is the system of the 
infinity of universes beyond our home Universe. In hierarchal form, all the 
fields we know as disciplines, are not isolated things but are linked 
otherwise they would disintegrate. I mean the Milky Way, solar system, 
planet earth, biosphere, living things, homo sapiens and so on.

The key instruments which explore reality at this time, include cosmology, 
quantum theory, relativity and higher dimensions theory. Astronomy appears 
to merely catalogue the celestial bodies. I have yet to see an astronomer 
discuss why these bodies exist in the heavens? When I was introduced to CC, 
I was delighted because I naively thought the precision, the 3D and the 
associated computational power would produce essential data for my Universe 
model? Alas, like the astronomers, CC seems only concerned with the means 
and not the ends. CC is intensely focussed on computer programs and delights 
in addressing techniques.

There are a few bold warriors apart from Buyong Ma (1995). Stephen
Mason(1991), Chemical Evolution - Origins of the Elements, Molecules and 
Living Systems, Clarendon Press Oxford, but closer to my  vision -
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (1955), The Phenomenon of Man, Fontana Books. 
Review by Arnold Toynee Observer - <This is a great book. Its subject is the 
sum of things: nothing less than God and the universe. Teilhard sees and 
presents the universe in evolution, but at the same time as unity. His 
vision of unity meets a spiritual need of our time>

I believe computational chemistry is more than mere mensuration and rotating 
images. I am sure molecules were created as the essential building blocks of 
the infinite universe system. I want to set out the physical, mental, social 
and spiritual nature of living things and our Universe. I am intensely 
interested in Origins? I am sure the findings of CC form an important part 
of this unfolding story.

Dr Henry Pang
Postgraduate Student, Computational Chemistry
Faculty of Science, Information Technology and Education
Northern Territory University
PO Box U273 NT University 0815 Australia
Mobile 0419 682121 Fax 61 8 8946 6847 hpangaus@hotmail.com

>From: "Alexandre Hocquet" <hocquet@hotmail.com>
>To: jsl@virgil.ruc.dk
>CC: chemistry@ccl.net
>Subject: CCL:philosophy of computational chemistry"
>Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:06:14 GMT
>
>
>dear jens,
>You may be interested in the last release of the journal "foundations of 
>chemistry" (i dont have the exact reference but you may find it at 
>http://www.wkap.nl/journalhome.htm/1386-4238). Its editor in chief, eric 
>scerri, deals with the subject of "molecular orbital vision".
>
>Your argued your point was not philosophical but for the people that are 
>interested :
>
>Talking about philosophy of computational chemistry, this journal is 
>certainly an interesting resource as can be Hyle 
>(http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~philosophie/hyle.html), edited by Joachim 
>Schummer. These two young journals deal with philosophical aspects of 
>chemistry from the point of view of chemists AND philosophers and some 
>articles deal with theoretical and computational chemistry. Another 
>valuable resource is the PHILCHEM mailing list (
>http://www.cla.sc.edu/Phil/faculty/baird/philch.htm).
>
>Last, i am myself in the process of adressing the subject of a "philosophy 
>of computational chemistry" in a sociological manner. i intend to ask the 
>CCLers what they think (this will be done in september, to maximise 
>response) by asking to fill a questionnaire, just like i did it in June at 
>the ICQC (International Conference on Quantum Chemistry) in Menton. The 
>results will be submitted for publication in one of the two mentionned 
>journals. I can send to anyone interested the abstract of the poster 
>accompanying the survey in Menton.
>
>Sincerely,
>
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In setting up a Dual Pentium Pro PC to run G94 under the Linux OS, we run into
problems when trying to compile G94, rev. E.  The OS is Linux kernel 2.2.15
using the Mandrake distribution.  I know that Mandrake is suppose to use much of
Redhat's code in the version of Linux, but I sure wish I would have installed
Redhat's latest kernel, I have many problems with the Mandrake installation, but
that's another story.  The PC is a Micron Dual Pentium Pro box.  I had G94
compile successfully on this box using Redhat Linux ver. 5.1 when running just
one processor.   This successful compilation was done just as instructed via the
G94 manual using the f2c/gcc compiler combo.  But now, with Mandrake 7.1, and
using dual processors (the kernel has been compiled with the SMP option on), the
compilation process stops after making link 401.  All executables up to l401 are
made (and work), but the process stops at link 402.  Any ideas?

I search the CCL archives to find past discussion on compiling G94 on Dual Pro
PCs, but I'm well versed in compilers and the different flags people have tried.
Does anyone have a g94.make file that they have used to compile a Dual Pentium
Pro machine under Linux.  Are the latest versions of f2c/gcc not compatible with
G94? Would the Portland compiler work on a dual Pentium Pro PC in compiling G98?

Any advice (esp. if Doug Fox is listening) would be appreciated!



Douglas E. Stack
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Hello and happy Friday (to everyone in an appropriate time zone)!

Does anybody have any experience with or knowledge of schemes for
predicting fluorescence in the UV/visible range for a given set
of molecules? I can't think of any reliable theoretical scheme
for deciding whether a given electronic transition will give rise
to fluorescence, but it's been a long time since I've thought
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Dear CCLers,

Our University has an established computational laboratory which was funded by a
one-time NSF grant.  It consists of an SGI Onyx Cray-linked to an SGI Origin
2000 (24 total CPUs).  As the original NSF grant is about to expire, we
developing policies to fund this lab from individual, faculty grants.  My
question is:  how does one fund a computation lab from individual users?  A
flat, per-year charge, by CPU time, etc.?

Since the budget of any grant is an important component in the funding decision,
we want to make sure the requests are reasonable.  The funds would be used to
pay for support staff (sys. admin.) and occasional hardware/software upgrades.
If any on you have current funding polices in place, we would be grateful if
could share them with us so that we can build on your experiences.  In addition,
if any of you have recently been involved in a grant review study section
reviewing computational proposals, what type of charges did you find reasonable
(any maybe just as important, what was considered unreasonable).

As always, thanks in advance.


Douglas E. Stack
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Hi, dear computational chemist:
I have a very big system (~60K atoms) running MD with CHARMM(c26b1) and
this is the second time I encounter this kind of error message. When I
got this error message long time ago, some people suggested me to
recompile a bigger CHARMM version and(or) reduce the frequency for
IMGFRQ; I did recompile a bigger CHARMM version (2 times the size of
large version) and the MD simulation could be continued afterward.  But,
now, after 60000 steps of simulations in production phase (2 fs timestep
with SHAKE), I encounter this error message again!
This time, I don't think I should recompile CHARMM because I must
allocate more swap spaces or add more physical memories for bigger
CHARMM to run in our Linux Beowulf cluster (from last time's
experience). I do need to find the real problem.  The error message
(last part of the output file) is attached.  Can anybody give me some
help for this problem.  Thanks!!!


Joe
http://adrik.bchs.uh.edu/~jhuang

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DYNA PROP>         22.58034-145014.87705  37658.91794    181.69200  52734.21802
DYNA INTERN>    22279.30550  16050.18997    784.84713   4162.75579    356.52905
DYNA EXTERN>    12445.17922-167441.47343       .00000       .00000       .00000
DYNA IMAGES>     8671.74361 -79645.43862       .00000       .00000       .00000
DYNA PRESS>     -8987.68123 -26168.46411   1098.00810   -131.26582 561261.49789
DYNA XTLE>                  -84726.66395     47.50944  60452.92867    146.80789
 ----------       ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------
 Crystal Parameters : Crystal Type = ORTH
      DYNA A     =   74.29847 B    =  103.10938 C     =   73.26342
      DYNA Alpha =   90.00000 Beta =   90.00000 Gamma =   90.00000
      DYNA PIXX =      -75.76 PIYY =    -347.14 PIZZ =      29.10
      DYNA PIXY =      116.57 PIXZ =     136.97 PIYZ =    -221.35
      DYNA Gradient Norm =  186.93365

 DYNAMC> Averages for the last      100  steps:
AVER DYN: Step         Time      TOTEner        TOTKe       ENERgy  TEMPerature
AVER PROP:             GRMS      HFCTote        HFCKe       EHFCor        VIRKe
AVER INTERN:          BONDs       ANGLes       UREY-b    DIHEdrals    IMPRopers
AVER EXTERN:        VDWaals         ELEC       HBONds          ASP         USER
AVER IMAGES:        IMNBvdw       IMELec       IMHBnd       RXNField    EXTElec
AVER PRESS:            VIRE         VIRI       PRESSE       PRESSI       VOLUme
AVER XTLE:                       XTLTe         SURFtension  XTLPe        XTLtemp
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AVER>      100    176.20000-144993.22089  37264.30228-182257.52317    299.97840
AVER PROP>         22.57498-144822.28572  37768.93365    170.93517  37694.52255
AVER INTERN>    22297.86430  16075.33709    774.60331   4175.84117    376.62798
AVER EXTERN>    12567.49870-167642.68587       .00000       .00000       .00000
AVER IMAGES>     8708.61650 -79591.22635       .00000       .00000       .00000
AVER PRESS>      -602.73034 -24526.95136     73.70963     79.43785 560849.69639
AVER XTLE>                  -84784.53011     -8.71134  60203.97251    330.49902
 ----------       ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------
 Lattice Parameters> Averages for the last      100 steps:
 Crystal Parameters : Crystal Type = ORTH
      AVER A     =   74.29227 B    =  103.15675 C     =   73.18218
      AVER Alpha =   90.00000 Beta =   90.00000 Gamma =   90.00000
      AVER PIXX =      140.50 PIYY =      32.20 PIZZ =      65.62
      AVER PIXY =       -4.21 PIXZ =      58.57 PIYZ =     -24.21
      AVER Gradient Norm =  162.67136

 DYNAMC> RMS fluctuations for the last      100  steps:
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FLUC PROP>           .03378    249.42746    145.12242     35.65197  12307.05905
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FLUC EXTERN>      154.09754    245.27650       .00000       .00000       .00000
FLUC IMAGES>       98.65660    164.99461       .00000       .00000       .00000
FLUC PRESS>      8282.34822   1115.50770   1012.58138    139.17979    217.20379
FLUC XTLE>                      43.70536     61.91745    289.94303    207.26611
 ----------       ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------
 Lattice Parameters> RMS fluctuations for the last      100 steps:
 Crystal Parameters : Crystal Type = ORTH
      FLUC A     =     .02949 B    =     .03290 C     =     .04172
      FLUC Alpha =     .00000 Beta =     .00000 Gamma =     .00000
      FLUC PIXX =      234.62 PIYY =     141.25 PIZZ =     184.24
      FLUC PIXY =      158.16 PIXZ =      93.54 PIYZ =     153.53
      FLUC Gradient Norm =   50.05679

 DYNAMC> Averages for the last    60100  steps:
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LAVE PROP>         22.59728-144560.06417  37772.73337    168.44117  37765.78738
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LAVE IMAGES>     6242.94376 -58918.68678       .00000       .00000       .00000
LAVE PRESS>       -11.63644 -25165.55514      1.59627      2.12337 562963.54364
LAVE XTLE>                 -113863.41725      1.69350  30864.29608    305.77406
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 Lattice Parameters> Averages for the last   60100 steps:
 Crystal Parameters : Crystal Type = ORTH
      LAVE A     =   73.98858 B    =  103.30068 C     =   73.65766
      LAVE Alpha =   90.00000 Beta =   90.00000 Gamma =   90.00000
      LAVE PIXX =        -.17 PIYY =       1.33 PIZZ =       5.22
      LAVE PIXY =         .91 PIXZ =        .43 PIYZ =      -7.62
      LAVE Gradient Norm =  156.71433

 DYNAMC> RMS fluctuations for the last    60100  steps:
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LFLC PROP>           .03798    335.11167    144.38475     34.23740  12128.31420
LFLC INTERN>       43.36087     71.47672     14.15320     41.68994     13.70573
LFLC EXTERN>     1817.84088  14516.75251       .00000       .00000       .00000
LFLC IMAGES>     1751.03065  14562.24764       .00000       .00000       .00000
LFLC PRESS>      8109.73278   1300.80780    988.58605    158.15202   3075.38226
LFLC XTLE>                   16783.10210     88.53178  16957.98651    277.38039
 ----------       ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------
 Lattice Parameters> RMS fluctuations for the last    60100 steps:
 Crystal Parameters : Crystal Type = ORTH
      LFLC A     =     .31254 B    =     .28508 C     =     .39783
      LFLC Alpha =     .00000 Beta =     .00000 Gamma =     .00000
      LFLC PIXX =      220.40 PIYY =     225.02 PIZZ =     224.97
      LFLC PIXY =      137.45 PIXZ =     138.34 PIYZ =     138.08
      LFLC Gradient Norm =   71.16777


     DRIFT/STEP (LAST-TOTAL):    -5.1396250      -9.97683497E-03
     E AT STEP 0            :    -144562.73       -144260.26    
     CORR. COEFFICIENT      :    -.59480529       -.51651993    
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DYNA>    10200    176.40000-144823.64301  37351.85599-182175.49900    300.68321
DYNA PROP>         22.60872-144631.99779  37876.55518    191.64522  40855.54740
DYNA INTERN>    22256.74740  16069.90799    751.41457   4150.58637    377.17110
DYNA EXTERN>    12692.06399-167651.69454       .00000       .00000       .00000
DYNA IMAGES>     8641.81260 -79463.50849       .00000       .00000       .00000
DYNA PRESS>     -4784.40708 -22452.62452    586.19037    340.73597 559644.93589
DYNA XTLE>                  -84669.21613     18.67894  60122.97467   1072.47737
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      DYNA A     =   74.24895 B    =  103.08683 C     =   73.11713
      DYNA Alpha =   90.00000 Beta =   90.00000 Gamma =   90.00000
      DYNA PIXX =       88.91 PIYY =     592.37 PIZZ =     340.94
      DYNA PIXY =       35.80 PIXZ =      36.38 PIYZ =     206.50
      DYNA Gradient Norm =  146.73777

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AVER DYN: Step         Time      TOTEner        TOTKe       ENERgy  TEMPerature
AVER PROP:             GRMS      HFCTote        HFCKe       EHFCor        VIRKe
AVER INTERN:          BONDs       ANGLes       UREY-b    DIHEdrals    IMPRopers
AVER EXTERN:        VDWaals         ELEC       HBONds          ASP         USER
AVER IMAGES:        IMNBvdw       IMELec       IMHBnd       RXNField    EXTElec
AVER PRESS:            VIRE         VIRI       PRESSE       PRESSI       VOLUme
AVER XTLE:                       XTLTe         SURFtension  XTLPe        XTLtemp
 ----------       ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------
AVER>      100    176.40000-144813.57232  37269.33626-182082.90858    300.01893
AVER PROP>         22.57628-144648.54289  37768.10782    165.02943  36588.82188
AVER INTERN>    22302.04963  16100.09011    777.88335   4195.01031    374.72043
AVER EXTERN>    12445.24989-167343.46469       .00000       .00000       .00000
AVER IMAGES>     8636.99619 -79571.44380       .00000       .00000       .00000
AVER PRESS>      1132.37827 -25524.92619   -138.46699    -42.09613 560990.82077
AVER XTLE>                  -84697.72904     38.55309  60116.57172    425.56894
 ----------       ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------
 Lattice Parameters> Averages for the last      100 steps:
 Crystal Parameters : Crystal Type = ORTH
      AVER A     =   74.32133 B    =  103.12211 C     =   73.19653
      AVER Alpha =   90.00000 Beta =   90.00000 Gamma =   90.00000
      AVER PIXX =      -21.61 PIYY =    -130.26 PIZZ =      25.58
      AVER PIXY =       96.71 PIXZ =      74.35 PIYZ =      28.56
      AVER Gradient Norm =  140.88757

 DYNAMC> RMS fluctuations for the last      100  steps:
FLUC>      100    176.40000    167.48173    109.68017    128.79175       .88293
FLUC PROP>           .02698    166.80865    107.17796     24.55186  10192.35417
FLUC INTERN>       30.02593     61.56834     11.21059     22.41055     12.04859
FLUC EXTERN>       79.22112    153.29833       .00000       .00000       .00000
FLUC IMAGES>       84.62913    144.42726       .00000       .00000       .00000
FLUC PRESS>      7069.08291   1074.88973    863.85293    133.71316    511.20339
FLUC XTLE>                      33.20445     54.82136    188.36358    340.10977
 ----------       ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------
 Lattice Parameters> RMS fluctuations for the last      100 steps:
 Crystal Parameters : Crystal Type = ORTH
      FLUC A     =     .02779 B    =     .01122 C     =     .05726
      FLUC Alpha =     .00000 Beta =     .00000 Gamma =     .00000
      FLUC PIXX =      186.46 PIYY =     209.21 PIZZ =     174.24
      FLUC PIXY =       98.19 PIXZ =     116.72 PIYZ =     118.51
      FLUC Gradient Norm =   53.00371

 DYNAMC> Averages for the last    60200  steps:
LAVE>    60200    176.40000-144728.64665  37267.46185-181996.10849    300.00384
LAVE PROP>         22.59724-144560.21114  37772.72569    168.43550  37763.83228
LAVE INTERN>    22309.64157  16135.45515    779.89314   4203.56001    375.80424
LAVE EXTERN>    14969.71456-188064.10406       .00000       .00000       .00000
LAVE IMAGES>     6246.92059 -58952.99368       .00000       .00000       .00000
LAVE PRESS>        -9.73608 -25166.15211      1.36361      2.04991 562960.26670
LAVE XTLE>                 -113814.96926      1.75473  30912.88790    305.97306
 ----------       ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------
 Lattice Parameters> Averages for the last   60200 steps:
 Crystal Parameters : Crystal Type = ORTH
      LAVE A     =   73.98913 B    =  103.30038 C     =   73.65689
      LAVE Alpha =   90.00000 Beta =   90.00000 Gamma =   90.00000
      LAVE PIXX =        -.21 PIYY =       1.11 PIZZ =       5.25
      LAVE PIXY =        1.07 PIXZ =        .55 PIYZ =      -7.56
      LAVE Gradient Norm =  156.68804

 DYNAMC> RMS fluctuations for the last    60200  steps:
LFLC>    60200    176.40000    336.96668    147.58231    301.80705      1.18804
LFLC PROP>           .03798    334.92162    144.33102     34.22387  12125.44935
LFLC INTERN>       43.34323     71.47596     14.14906     41.66677     13.70322
LFLC EXTERN>     1819.24997  14529.29684       .00000       .00000       .00000
LFLC IMAGES>     1752.29334  14574.43613       .00000       .00000       .00000
LFLC PRESS>      8108.24872   1300.54741    988.40836    158.12481   3073.94746
LFLC XTLE>                   16811.16578     88.49917  16985.72133    277.53923
 ----------       ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------    ---------
 Lattice Parameters> RMS fluctuations for the last    60200 steps:
 Crystal Parameters : Crystal Type = ORTH
      LFLC A     =     .31258 B    =     .28494 C     =     .39795
      LFLC Alpha =     .00000 Beta =     .00000 Gamma =     .00000
      LFLC PIXX =      220.35 PIYY =     225.06 PIZZ =     224.90
      LFLC PIXY =      137.45 PIXZ =     138.34 PIYZ =     138.06
      LFLC Gradient Norm =   71.14437


     DRIFT/STEP (LAST-TOTAL):    -.49688281      -9.94182564E-03
     E AT STEP 0            :    -144623.45       -144260.96    
     CORR. COEFFICIENT      :   -8.59850709E-02   -.51585640    
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Dear Dr. Norrby:

Instead of getting iritated and offended, you better respond to the specific
criticism of the force field idea in application to TM systems. This is SCIENCE,
let me remind you, and the main condition of its progress is open discussion and
proof of statements. I proved my statements in the references I gave earlier (that
you deleted) and I would expect you to show that my proof is wrong. Just stating
that one made calculations with good results does not prove anything, with
arbitrary parameters (changed from one compound to another) everybody can get any a
priori desired results.

And, please, don't reffer to "authorities". I respect them all and their point of
view, but the scientific truth is more important.

Regards
Isaac

Per-Ola Norrby wrote:

> Isaac B. Bersuker wrote:
>
> >I repeat my firm conviction that, in general, there are
> >no force fields for transitiom metal systems (see my latest book ...
>
> (The rest of the message deleted).
>
>         I've seen this comment a couple of times now, and I'm getting
> irritated.  This is a very sweeping statement, and insulting to those
> who have produced good work in this area.  It is only true if you
> interprete it like "it is not possible to achieve infinite accuracy
> for all possible TM complexes", but stated like that it would be
> equally true of any method.  For specific classes of complexes, it is
> possible to get high accuracy with force field methods.  It's just a
> question of having a flexible enough force field and doing a careful
> parameterization.  Check out the book by Comba and Hambley,
> "Molecular Modeling of Inorganic Compounds", a new edition is comming
> out soon.  We also have a review in press in Coord.Chem.Rev. on how
> to do this parameterization (don't know when it's going to appear).
> For some classical reviews, see:
>
> C.R. Landis, D.M. Root, T. Cleveland, in: K.B. Lipkowitz and D.B.
> Boyd (Eds.), Reviews in Computational Chemistry, Vol. 6, VCH
> Publishers, Inc., New York, 1995, p. 73-148.
>
> M. Zimmer, Chem. Rev. 95 (1995) 2629.
>
> P. Comba, Comments Inorg. Chem. 16 (1994) 133.
>
> B.P. Hay, Coordination Chemistry Reviews 126 (1993) 177.
>
> (Yes, I know, I left several out, this is just a selection based on
> personal preference).
>
>         The general force fields are also advancing.  You can still
> get whooping errors, and should validate carefully, but I've actually
> been surprised several times by the results you can get without
> specific parameterization.  I'd like to point to UFF (not all
> implementations though :-), VALBOND (not a complete force field, but
> a very interesting addition to UFF), and the force fields in PCModel
> and Spartan.  There are others, but I don't have personal experience
> with them.
>
>         Per-Ola
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Hi everybody,

I have done a set of calculations on transition metal complexes
with a series of basis sets at B3LYP level using Gaussian98. These
included CEP, SDD, LANL2DZ (as avaialable with g98) and basis II as
discribed in 
'Reviews in Computational Chemistry', Vol. 8, K.B. Lipkowitz and D.B. Boyd
(Eds), VCH, New York, p. 63 - 144 (1996). 
For basis II, I have used Hay&Wadt pseudo-ECP and the corresponding
valence basis sets for transition metal. For main group elements,
6-31G(d,p) was used. 

The problem is that, of all the basis sets I used, the basis II gives
an imaginary frequency. Now I am worried about the time I spent and
the already published results using this basis sets by other people.

Here is the question. Does the mixing of ECP and all electron basis sets
in basis II make the selection incompatible? More specifically,
is the mixing in basis II is compatible?
Or, basis II is correct while all others (CEP, SDD, LANL2DZ) are wrong?

Hope you are able to help me.

Thanks,
Giju


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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:02:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Fred Salsbury <salsb@scripps.edu>
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To: Joe Huang <HCHuang@uh.edu>
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Subject: Re: CCL:Error message in CHARMM: RESIDUE NUMBER OVERFLOW!
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Hello --

First, I wouldn't consider changing imgfrq to be a satisfactory solution
to this problem. Actually, it's not clear to me why that would work.

I've gotten this problem myself.

What it is is that maxres (which is real residues plus image) is 32000
even for the large and xlarge version of charmm. The solution to this
problem was to recomplie charmm, but with changing the maxres from 32000
to something bigger, say 60000. This is in dimens.fcm. But without
changing the heap or stack sizes. If the extra residues are water
molecules then the standard stack and heap sizes should be able to handle
much more than 32000 residues. Of course you will still blow out the resid
field as the limit there is 9999 , but that just means you can't sele by
resid for those water molecules.

A less satisfactory change might be to reduce cutim, as that will reduce
the number of image resiudes.

I've run on some big systems and I've found that the stack/heap sized only
became a problem once with ewald and the charge grid there and I found
that could be avoided just by reducing slightly the FFT dimensons.

Hope this helps

Fred






On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Joe Huang wrote:

> Hi, dear computational chemist:
> I have a very big system (~60K atoms) running MD with CHARMM(c26b1) and
> this is the second time I encounter this kind of error message. When I
> got this error message long time ago, some people suggested me to
> recompile a bigger CHARMM version and(or) reduce the frequency for
> IMGFRQ; I did recompile a bigger CHARMM version (2 times the size of
> large version) and the MD simulation could be continued afterward.  But,
> now, after 60000 steps of simulations in production phase (2 fs timestep
> with SHAKE), I encounter this error message again!
> This time, I don't think I should recompile CHARMM because I must
> allocate more swap spaces or add more physical memories for bigger
> CHARMM to run in our Linux Beowulf cluster (from last time's
> experience). I do need to find the real problem.  The error message
> (last part of the output file) is attached.  Can anybody give me some
> help for this problem.  Thanks!!!
> 
> 
> Joe
> http://adrik.bchs.uh.edu/~jhuang
> 



