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Hi CCL'ers,

SUMMURY of about NBO documentation/overview.
The initial question was :

>I am searching for documentation/overview or some other detailed
>information about NBO on on-line resources. Have you something about
>that ?

Answers:

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The NBO documentation is available at
http://www.ccl.net/cca/software/MS-WIN95-NT/mopac6/nbo/NBO.HTM

Good luck,
Matthias

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Hello
        please contact the author, prof. Weinhold, at

        <WEINHOLD@chem.wisc.edu>

Pedro

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David van der Spoel wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is anybody still actively developing/maintaining babel? The latest version
> (1.6) seems to be from 1996.
>
> Groeten, David.
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Dr. David van der Spoel         Biomedical center, Dept. of Biochemistry
> s-mail: Husargatan 3, Box 576,  75123 Uppsala, Sweden
> e-mail: spoel@xray.bmc.uu.se    www: http://zorn.bmc.uu.se/~spoel
> phone:  46 18 471 4205          fax: 46 18 511 755
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This is an interesting question, because Babel is SUPPOSED to be able to read
CHARMM files as
input, yet it doesn't.  And since there is no program other than Quanta that
will allow one to easily
view CHARMM crd files, it would be nice to be able to convert them to some
other format,

Richard

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Post-doctoral Associate
Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853




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> input, yet it doesn't.  And since there is no program other than Quanta that
> will allow one to easily
> view CHARMM crd files, it would be nice to be able to convert them to some
> other format,

Among the several options of my program Simulad is conversion from (among
others) Charmm CRD to PDB, Macromodel and some other formats. It also does
trajectory conversions and there is a (rudimentary) display option for the
SGI. It can be downloaded from
http://inka.mssm.edu/~mezei/simulaid .

Mihaly Mezei, 

Dept. of Physiology & Biophysics, Mount Sinai School of Medicine
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Dr. Richard Wood wrote:
> David van der Spoel wrote:
>> Is anybody still actively developing/maintaining babel? The latest version
>> (1.6) seems to be from 1996.

Yes and no. I asked a very similar question a few months ago. Both Matt
Stahl and Pat Walters are assisting on a GPL'ed library called OELib, that
is essentially based on Babel. Matt said that at some point OELib should
probably be released as "Babel 2.0." At one point, there was a webpage at
<http://www.eyesopen.com/oelib/>

I use OELib in some of my work and it's pretty good and evolving 
relatively quickly. Hopefully it will soon have all the Babel translators
and then some.

> This is an interesting question, because Babel is SUPPOSED to be able to read
> CHARMM files as input, yet it doesn't. 

As someone who's written some file translators, it's hard to know what the
problem might be without example files.

Cheers,
--
-Geoff Hutchison
Northwestern Chemistry


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>> Is anybody still actively developing/maintaining babel? The latest version
>> (1.6) seems to be from 1996.
>>
>> Groeten, David.
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> Dr. David van der Spoel         Biomedical center, Dept. of Biochemistry
>> s-mail: Husargatan 3, Box 576,  75123 Uppsala, Sweden
>> e-mail: spoel@xray.bmc.uu.se    www: http://zorn.bmc.uu.se/~spoel
>> phone:  46 18 471 4205          fax: 46 18 511 755
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>This is an interesting question, because Babel is SUPPOSED to be able to read
>CHARMM files as
>input, yet it doesn't.  And since there is no program other than Quanta that
>will allow one to easily
>view CHARMM crd files, it would be nice to be able to convert them to some
>other format,

I would also very much like to know something about the status of babel
development.

In passing, RasMol allows to visualize charmm coordinate files. 

Nicolas Foloppe

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> David van der Spoel wrote:
> > Is anybody still actively developing/maintaining babel? The latest version
> > (1.6) seems to be from 1996.
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > Dr. David van der Spoel         Biomedical center, Dept. of Biochemistry
> > s-mail: Husargatan 3, Box 576,  75123 Uppsala, Sweden
> > e-mail: spoel@xray.bmc.uu.se    www: http://zorn.bmc.uu.se/~spoel
> > phone:  46 18 471 4205          fax: 46 18 511 755
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Dr. Richard Wood wrote:
> This is an interesting question, because Babel is SUPPOSED to be
> able to read CHARMM files as input, yet it doesn't.  And since there
> is no program other than Quanta that will allow one to easily view
> CHARMM crd files, it would be nice to be able to convert them to
> some other format,
> --
> Richard L. Wood, Ph. D.
> Physical/Computational Chemist
> Post-doctoral Associate
> Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853

Actually, I believe that both Rasmol and VMD can read and display CHARMM
.crd files, and write them back out in PDB format.  For Rasmol, the
process requires using the command line, and can't be automated
easily; something like

load charmm file.crd
save pdb file.pdb

should handle the file format conversion.  Note, however, that there are
a few naming conflicts for amino acids between CHARMM and PDB, for both
residue names (HIS) and heavy atom names (ILE, C-terminal O).  For
molecules besides the standard 20 amino acids, e.g. cofactors and AA
analogs, there is considerably more divergence in naming.

My experiences with automated coordinate file conversion have, in
general, not been very good, esp. with Babel.  Conversions from
Cambridge FDAT to PDB are particularly bad; all the numeric atom labels
are discarded, and all carbons become simply 'C' instead of 'C1', 'C2',
etc.  I realize that these are arbitrary numeric labels assigned by the
crystallographer and don't necessarily correspond to IUPAC numbering,
but they would be useful if retained.  (I developed my own procedure,
using Cambridge 'quest' prog directly, and a little file editing.)


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Try:

http://www.eyesopen.com/oelib.html


Jim



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>
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Dr. Richard Wood wrote:
> > David van der Spoel wrote:
> >> Is anybody still actively developing/maintaining babel? The latest
version
> >> (1.6) seems to be from 1996.
>
> Yes and no. I asked a very similar question a few months ago. Both Matt
> Stahl and Pat Walters are assisting on a GPL'ed library called OELib, that
> is essentially based on Babel. Matt said that at some point OELib should
> probably be released as "Babel 2.0." At one point, there was a webpage at
> <http://www.eyesopen.com/oelib/>
>
> I use OELib in some of my work and it's pretty good and evolving
> relatively quickly. Hopefully it will soon have all the Babel translators
> and then some.
>
> > This is an interesting question, because Babel is SUPPOSED to be able to
read
> > CHARMM files as input, yet it doesn't.
>
> As someone who's written some file translators, it's hard to know what the
> problem might be without example files.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> -Geoff Hutchison
> Northwestern Chemistry
>
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Hi all-

I know all about Ras,ol, VMD etc. reading CHARMM crd files.
I've tried them all, don't like them very much.

My comment regarding Babel was more along the lines of Babel being able
to
convert CHARMM files to a more usable format (for me), such as xyz or
HyperChem hin file format.

Since I prefer Windows to UNIX, I would like to be able to open a CHARMM
converted
file in a program that I know really well, such as HyperChem.

So, thanks eeryone that suggested Rasmol and VMD etc.  I've alrady tried
those.

Richard

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Dear CCLers,
if you are interested in software able to manage several file formats
(included CHARMM CRD and Quanta MSF), I would like to suggest our VEGA
package that is downloadable at: http://users.unimi.it/~ddl
Best regards

        Giulio Vistoli


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On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Dr. Richard Wood wrote:

> Babel is SUPPOSED to be able to read CHARMM files as input, yet it
> doesn't.  And since there is no program other than Quanta that will
> allow one to easily view CHARMM crd files, it would be nice to be able
> to convert them to some other format

	This is a fairly simple bug to fix. Just apply the following
patch (to rdcharmm.c) and recompile.

	Ben


--- babel-1.6/rdcharmm.c        Tue Jan 21 15:52:39 1997
+++ babel1.6-2/rdcharmm.c       Fri Feb 12 14:51:16 1999
@@ -51,9 +56,9 @@
       Type(i)[1] = the_line[16];
       Type(i)[2] = '\0';
     }
-    sscanf(&the_line[22],"%lf",&X(i));
-    sscanf(&the_line[32],"%lf",&Y(i));
-    sscanf(&the_line[42],"%lf",&Z(i));
+    sscanf(&the_line[21],"%lf",&X(i));
+    sscanf(&the_line[31],"%lf",&Y(i));
+    sscanf(&the_line[41],"%lf",&Z(i));
   }
   result = assign_radii(mol);  
   result = assign_bonds(mol);



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Dear Yoshiyuki,

Thankyou for your attachments, however, I have now got a patch for
LOPTCG maybe this is of interest to you. Please see message below too:


************************************************************************************

Concerning your problem with the optimizer: attached I send you a patch
that will correct
(I hope!) this bug. In principle it is enough to include the whole file
within the
optimizer input deck.  Alternatively you can place the file containing
the new function in
the appropriate directory,  for instance:  ~/LoptFnc, and then source it
into the
procedure by adding in any part of your input file a line like this:

. ~/LoptFnc/UpdateProfile.fnc

Any of these two posibilities would redefine the function UpdateProfile
that likely causes
the error you found. This function is active when the FIXINDEX keyword
is used in the
profile, and it doesn't work in the case of basis set optimization.






  function UpdateProfile {

        /bin/ksh -p $inp $* | awk '

        BEGIN { str["GEOM"]="ENDG" ; str["BASE"]="ENDBS"
                str["GEBA"]="ENDBS" }

        /GEOM/ || /BASE/ || /GEBA/ \
                        {
                          end=str[$1]
                          getline y
                          x = y
                          while ( getline == 1 )
                            if ( $1 != "STOP" ) x=x"\n"$0
                          }
        END             { 
                          z = ""
                          w = ""
                          getline < fn
                          while ( $0 !~ y )
                                { z = z""w""$0
                                  getline < fn
                                  w = "\n"
                                  }
                          while ( $0 !~ end ) getline < fn
                          getline w < fn
                          while ( getline < fn == 1 ) w = w"\n"$0
                          print z"\n"x"\n"w > fn
                           }
                                      ' fn=$inp

        istart=""

        return $?
  }


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Hi Art,
I have tried the video card (RIVA TNT2 chip; 32 MB) and stereo glasses 
(3D Revelator; wireless Infra Red version or wired version) successfully 
to view 3D stereo images in OpenGL modeling programs (e.g., WebLabViewer 
Lite, and SWISSpdbViewer) in Windows 98 OS.
This means "stereo glasses from ELSA can view 3D stereo images  in D3D 
or OpenGL programs"!
The only thing you need is installing the GLDirect program from SciTech 
software (http://www.scitechsoft.com); the demo version I used would be 
expired, but the real version should cost  $19.95 US dollars.
I may be the first one to know this kind of cheap solution for 3D stereo 
viewing in the PC platform!
Try it and good luck!

Joe
--
http://adrik.bchs.uh.edu/~jhuang

art' wrote:

> Hi CCL'ers,
> 
> Have you know any commercial and free software to view molecules in
> stereo with ELSA technology ?
> I will summuries the replies.
> 
> Thank you all
> Arturas Z.
> 



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> >This is an interesting question, because Babel is SUPPOSED to be able to read
> >CHARMM files as
> >input, yet it doesn't.  And since there is no program other than Quanta that
> >will allow one to easily
> >view CHARMM crd files, it would be nice to be able to convert them to some
> >other format,
> 
> In passing, RasMol allows to visualize charmm coordinate files. 
> 

There's also DINO ( http://www.bioz.unibas.ch/~xray/dino ) that will
read CHARMM coordinate (.crd) and trajectory (.dcd)  files.  DINO gives high
resolution output in TIFF, PNG and PostScript formats or it may
also write input files for Raster3D and Povray. 

Simon


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  Simon BERNECHE
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  Département de physique - Université de Montréal                           
  Biochemistry Department - Weill Medical College of Cornell University      

  eMail: Simon.Berneche@cornell.edu         Tel: (212) 746-4237 
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