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Dear collegues,


I have a problem with group theory.
When you consider two electrons in a two-fold degenerate level
(let say (e^2) configuration for a transition metal in a tetrahedral
surrounding (Td point group)) it is easy two find the multielectronic
symmetry with the symmetric and antisymmetric direct products.

There are 6 possible configurations for two electrons in 4 spinorbitals.
The spin multiplicity is either 1 or 3.
The direct product (E * E) reduce to A1 + A2 + E and it is not
straightforward
to assign the spin label, since one cannot have both spin multiplicities
for all spatial symmetry (1-A1, 3-A1, 1-A2, 3-A2, 1-E and 3-E give 16
states!)

However, with the symmetric and antisymmetric direct products is it very
simple :

symmetric direct product:
(E * E)+ = A1 + E which leads to 1-A1 and 1-E singlet electronic states
(antisymmetric spin function and symmetric space function).

antisymmetric direct product:
(E * E)- = A2 leading to 3-A2 triplet state (symmetric spin function and
antisymmetric space function).

Now my problem is : what about when you have three electrons in a
three-fold
degenerate level ? 
For example, (t2^3) configuration for Td point group. 

Thanks in advance.

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Dear Prof Assfeld:

   I have two papers on this subject, J. Chem. Phys. _45_, 2304 (1966) and
Intern. J. Quantum Chem. _8_, 267 (1974) looking at this problem from
different viewpoints.

The CRUNCH program suite, available for downloading at

http://phy-ggallup.unl.edu/crunch

has a module that makes calculations of this sort.

Regards,

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Xavier ASSFELD wrote:

> Dear collegues,
> 
> 
> I have a problem with group theory.
> When you consider two electrons in a two-fold degenerate level
> (let say (e^2) configuration for a transition metal in a tetrahedral
> surrounding (Td point group)) it is easy two find the multielectronic
> symmetry with the symmetric and antisymmetric direct products.
> 
> There are 6 possible configurations for two electrons in 4 spinorbitals.
> The spin multiplicity is either 1 or 3.
> The direct product (E * E) reduce to A1 + A2 + E and it is not
> straightforward
> to assign the spin label, since one cannot have both spin multiplicities
> for all spatial symmetry (1-A1, 3-A1, 1-A2, 3-A2, 1-E and 3-E give 16
> states!)
> 
> However, with the symmetric and antisymmetric direct products is it very
> simple :
> 
> symmetric direct product:
> (E * E)+ = A1 + E which leads to 1-A1 and 1-E singlet electronic states
> (antisymmetric spin function and symmetric space function).
> 
> antisymmetric direct product:
> (E * E)- = A2 leading to 3-A2 triplet state (symmetric spin function and
> antisymmetric space function).
> 
> Now my problem is : what about when you have three electrons in a
> three-fold
> degenerate level ? 
> For example, (t2^3) configuration for Td point group. 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> -- 
> 
>                                       ...Xav
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Dear colleague,

I hope our MCC 2002 meting should be of some interest to comp. physicists
& comp. chemists, and please, find below the data on that
meeting,

with kind regards,

sincerely,

Ante Graovac,
Director of the MCC 2002.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> o Title of meeting 

MATH/CHEM/COMP 2002, The 17th Dubrovnik International Course & Conference
on the Interfaces among Mathematics, Chemistry & Computer Sciences

> o Venue

Inter-University Center, Dubrovnik, Croatia

> o Date

June 24-29, 2002

> o URL of web page giving full details of meeting

http://mcc.irb.hr


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Dear CCL'ers

I am doing some CIS calulations on aromatic diketones and ketenes using
G98 and some of my calculations suddenly crashed with following message:



**** Warning!!: The largest alpha MO coefficient is  0.23974133D+03

 Semi-Direct transformation.
 ModeAB=           4 MOrb=            22 LenV=      12275249
 LASXX=     14632552 LTotXX=    14632552 LenRXX=    29666813
 LTotAB=    15034261 MaxLAS=    63456756 LenRXY=           0
 NonZer=    44299365 LenScr=    78724297 LnRSAI=    63456756
 LnScr1=   107460383 MaxDsk=          -1 Total=    279308249
 SrtSym=           T ITran=            3




Is there anybody with similar experience or some idea how to solve this
problem ?
All advices are very appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Stan

-- 
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PyMOL can directly read and animate Tinker's XYZ files without
conversion.  While PyMOL provides most of the same capabilites of VMD in
this area, PyMOL has a different feel and many other strengths.  I
recommend you try both programs and go with the one you're more
comfortable with. 

http://www.pymol.org

On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Hugo G. de Teran wrote:

> VMD (http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/) uses Babel to convert a series of
> xyz to a series of PDB files which VMD reads as an animation.
> I never tried this option, but this is what the documentation of the program
> says.
> Hope it helps,
> Hugo
> 
> Demetrio Antonio da Silva Filho wrote:
> 
> > Dear CCL'ers,
> >
> > I am using TINKER to perform some MD calculations and I would like
> > to animate the viewing of sequence of coordinates snapshots from
> > a dynamic trajectory.
> >
> > Does anybody knows a free software able to read the TINKER .xyz
> > files and animate them ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Demetrio Filho
> >
> 
> --
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> 
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Dear Demetrio,
I checked just to be sure and the program I mentioned
in my previous e-mail(MOLDEN) is able to read .xyz
files of TINKER and it also can create molecular
structure animations from .xyz files. Is that what you
want? I hope it helps..
Best Regards
Alimet Ozen

--- Demetrio Antonio da Silva Filho
<dasf@u.arizona.edu> wrote:
> Dear CCL'ers,
> 
> I am using TINKER to perform some MD calculations
> and I would like
> to animate the viewing of sequence of coordinates
> snapshots from
> a dynamic trajectory.
> 
> Does anybody knows a free software able to read the
> TINKER .xyz
> files and animate them ?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Demetrio Filho
> 
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Hi CCL'rs

I'm a newbie to NAMD-VMD or anything related to molecular dynamics, reading the
user guide I could not find any tool to analyse velocities, energies or
anything else from the ouput files, since they are binary, i cannot find a way
to translate them to a xmgr or gnuplot format to read them. Is there anything
obious I'm not seeing?

Whis tool do the NAMD users use ?. I'm interested on free programs. I'm
learning gromacs too, and it does have that kind of tools, i think there must
be something for NAMD

Thanks in advance, I will sumarize if it worths for the newbies like me

Max


