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Eugene Leitl <Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de> posted:
>Subject: [Bioinformatics] Open Source Petition FAQ

As a note, this is the first draft of the FAQ and was
posted for comment on the Bioinformatics list hosted
at O'Reilly.  It was not meant to be widely distributed.
The views are currently those of the FAQ author rather
than of the petition signers or those involved in the
discussion (like me).

If you are interested in adding to the discussion,
please visit the main site for the petition at
  http://www.openinformatics.org/
and also read the discussion archives at
  http://labs.oreilly.com/mailman/listinfo/bioinformatics

Since my name was listed right at the top of Eugene's
forward, let me also add that I am against the petition,
for reasons outlined later on in the text.  That
description will be updated in the next version of
the FAQ to better explain my position.

                    Andrew Dalke
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Konstantin N. Kudin wrote:

>  I am looking for examples of metallic 2D and 3D periodic systems that
> have an orbital crossing exactly at the Fermi level. In such a case if the
> exact position of the crossing is missed, the system appears to be an
> insulator (or semiconductor). Any examples, references or even cartesian
> coordinates for unit cells are greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
>  Example - 1D periodic (3,3) carbon nanotube
> 
>   *     *
>    *  *
>     *   --- Fermi level
>   *  *  --- seeming top of the occupied bands if the crossing is missed
> *     *
> 

A single sheet of graphite has pi and pi* bands touching at the Fermi
level, at the edge of the BZ. That degeneracy arises from the crystal
symmetry; isoelectronic BN has a band gap. Not sure what you mean by
'missing the exact position' though, for the degeneracy and therefore
metallic behaviour will remain while the symmetry does even if electrons
are added or removed. Graphite is strictly a semimetal as its DOS is
zero at the Fermi level (near zero for the 3D crystal).

David

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Dear Colleagues,

Would you please to help me sending formulae and short description of
rho-ci density in Gaussian98. I know that this is described in book
"Exploring Chemistry with Electronic Structure Methods" chapter 9 but I
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Dear CCL users,

I am running a tin complex using Gaussian 98, that uses the LanL2DZ basis
set for Sn and 6-31G* for all the other atoms in the complex. Now I am
trying to run a BSSE calculation for this complex using the following
input:


#P B3LYP/Gen Massage Pseudo=Read

-1 1
Molecular specification

Sn
LanL2DZ
****
C H
****

Sn
LanL2Dz

Which always ends with an error. Can you point me to a possible solution?

Thank you in advance,
Best wishes

Ricardo.






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Whoa!  Predicting reactivity is one hell of a problem especially if you want
to cover such a wide range of systems.  There are many programs that can
help you to find reasonable structures for transition states, and more or
less plausible activation energies.  But to quantitatively predict relative
rates simply from the identities of reactant pairs is not trivial!  I don't
think anyone can do it in a meaningful way.

We are working on a "simple" problem related to case 1 below - nucleophilic
substitution of primary alkyl chlorides.  Believe me, it is consuming large
amounts of high powered computer time, and we still haven't convinced
referees that we are right in our explanation of the relative reactivities
(although I am sure that we are ;-) )!  You are not going to find this sort
of thing "off the shelf".


William Laidig Wrote:

>I have a colleague who needs software forpredicting the probability of a
aqueous
>chemical reaction occurring between a variety of reactive chemicals at
around
>pH7.  Specificly,
>   1)nucleophilic substitiution of halogenated compounds
>   2) Schiff base formaiton
>   3) addition-elimination of acids, esters, amides
>   4) nucleophilic adition of aldehydes and ketones
>   5) Michael addition of alpha,beta unsaturated compounds
>   6) addition by ring cleavage of epoxides
>   7) electrophilic substitiution of diazonium salts
>I am not up on current synthetic prediction program and would appreciate am
>pointers to current software, recommendations, etc.  I will summarize
responsews
>to the list

Dr. Philip G. Hultin
Associate Department Head and
Associate Professor of Chemistry
University of Manitoba
Winnipeg, MB, Canada R3T 2N2
(vox) 204-474-9814
(fax) 204-474-7608
mailto:hultin@cc.umanitoba.ca
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You may wish to check the current status of the "CAMEO" program system, as
developed by the Jorgensen group at Yale.    Perhaps this might be helpful
to you.

Best regards,
-Mike


On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Phil Hultin wrote:

> Whoa!  Predicting reactivity is one hell of a problem especially if you want
> to cover such a wide range of systems.  There are many programs that can
> help you to find reasonable structures for transition states, and more or
> less plausible activation energies.  But to quantitatively predict relative
> rates simply from the identities of reactant pairs is not trivial!  I don't
> think anyone can do it in a meaningful way.
>
> We are working on a "simple" problem related to case 1 below - nucleophilic
> substitution of primary alkyl chlorides.  Believe me, it is consuming large
> amounts of high powered computer time, and we still haven't convinced
> referees that we are right in our explanation of the relative reactivities
> (although I am sure that we are ;-) )!  You are not going to find this sort
> of thing "off the shelf".
>
>
> William Laidig Wrote:
>
> >I have a colleague who needs software forpredicting the probability of a
> aqueous
> >chemical reaction occurring between a variety of reactive chemicals at
> around
> >pH7.  Specificly,
> >   1)nucleophilic substitiution of halogenated compounds
> >   2) Schiff base formaiton
> >   3) addition-elimination of acids, esters, amides
> >   4) nucleophilic adition of aldehydes and ketones
> >   5) Michael addition of alpha,beta unsaturated compounds
> >   6) addition by ring cleavage of epoxides
> >   7) electrophilic substitiution of diazonium salts
> >I am not up on current synthetic prediction program and would appreciate am
> >pointers to current software, recommendations, etc.  I will summarize
> responsews
> >to the list
>
> Dr. Philip G. Hultin
> Associate Department Head and
> Associate Professor of Chemistry
> University of Manitoba
> Winnipeg, MB, Canada R3T 2N2
> (vox) 204-474-9814
> (fax) 204-474-7608
> mailto:hultin@cc.umanitoba.ca
> http://www.umanitoba.ca/chemistry/
>
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Dear All,

Does anyone have any experience / hints that they could share on running
TD-DFT calculations in Gaussian98? I am having problems with the Davidson
convergence in that the TD step is constantly restarting with the following
error message:

Davidson failed to converge within maximum sub-space dimensions
  Restart with updated initial guess

The updated guess shows no real changes from the previous gues and is
certainly not the value obtained in the iteration just run.

Are there any additional options that can be used (IOp's)? Does the
functional and basis set used have a large effect.

Thanks for your help,

Daniel

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Hi,

        A brief preview of our benchmark results of Gaussian 98 for PC 
systems can be found at:

http://oxygen.chem.nthu.edu.tw/~jsyu/benchmark/g98-index.html

        We have performed the benchmark for several machines including the
combinations of AMD Athlon+SDRAM, Athlon+DDR, Athlon+dual-channel-DDR,
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        More details will follow in weeks.

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Just by coincincidence I got this notice from CambridgeSoft today:

    ------------------------
3.  Cameo Comes to Windows
    ------------------------
 
One of the most useful applications of artificial intelligence to organic
chemistry is to design syntheses of big and hairy molecules. Perhaps the
next most useful is to identify and rectify the weak steps in a proposed
scheme before any reagents are committed to flasks. To this end, the CAMEO
program is used by a variety of chemical and pharmaceutical companies to
shed light on their syntheses. Given starting materials and reaction
conditions, CAMEO predicts the various reaction products, accompanied by
comments explaining factors affecting their yield. Hitherto it has been
available on VAX/VMS, Unix (Sun, SGI and AIX), and the Macintosh.
CambridgeSoft is now porting the application to Windows using Excel as part
of the front (i.e. display) end.
Read more about this exciting product development at:
http://chemnews.cambridgesoft.com/art.cfm?S=160
or email software@cambridgesoft.com for more information

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I remember a program called Cameo (WL Jorgensen et al) that predicted the
products of a reaction mixture.  I think it used rho-and-sigma-type
substituent effects for calculation of reaction rates and equilibria rather
than any quantum calculations.  There is still a home page for Cameo at
http://zarbi.chem.yale.edu/products/cameo/ if you're interested.  

I don't know what's been written since then (and probably I only know about
Cameo because I used to know some of the people that worked on the project).

--David Shobe
Süd-Chemie Inc.
phone (502) 634-7409
fax     (502) 634-7724
email  dshobe@sud-chemieinc.com

Don't bother flaming me: I'm behind a firewall.



-----Original Message-----
From: laidig.wd@pg.com [mailto:laidig.wd@pg.com]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:39 PM
To: chemistry@ccl.net
Subject: CCL:Predictionj of chemical reactivity


All,

I have a colleague who needs software forpredicting the probability of a
aqueous
chemical reaction occurring between a variety of reactive chemicals at
around
pH7.  Specificly,
   1)nucleophilic substitiution of halogenated compounds
   2) Schiff base formaiton
   3) addition-elimination of acids, esters, amides
   4) nucleophilic adition of aldehydes and ketones
   5) Michael addition of alpha,beta unsaturated compounds
   6) addition by ring cleavage of epoxides
   7) electrophilic substitiution of diazonium salts
I am not up on current synthetic prediction program and would appreciate am
pointers to current software, recommendations, etc.  I will summarize
responsews
to the list

Thanks,  Bill

William D. Laidig
CADMol Group
Corporate Analytical CR-TD
513-627-2857
513-627-1233 (FAX)
laidig.wd@pg.com



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Michael Bartberger and others have suggested CAMEO as a viable way of
predicting reactivity.

I have not seen CAMEO recently, and I certainly do not intend to "diss" it
or its creators.  As I understand it, CAMEO is a sort of "expert system"
based on empirical rules.  This may well be the sort of prediction that
William Laidig was seeking, and there is nothing wrong with that.  Perhaps I
understood the question about "predicting reactivity" in a different context
than was meant.

An "expert system" is only as good as its rules when it comes to addressing
chemical systems outside the range of structures that went into its
parameterization.  Unfortunately, many of the "rules and rationalizations"
that we learned as undergraduates and that are still widely used by research
chemists are simply incorrect at a fundamental level, particularly as they
apply to reactions in solution.  While they are in many cases qualitatively
successful, the fundamental flaws in their logic mean that they will fail
for some (unknown) set of situations.

If you don't agree with this assertion about "rules and rationalizations",
you should consider the usual explanation organic chemists use for the
differing acidities of organic acids.  If it was true that acidities could
be correctly understood in terms of delocalization of charge in the
conjugate base (by inductive withdrawal or by resonance), then a) gas-phase
acidities and solution phase acidities would show parallel trends (they do
not in general) and b)the trend would be reflected in the enthalpies of
ionization in solution (it is not, in general).  The data on this have been
available for decades and can be found in standard (older) physical organic
textbooks as well as compendia of physical data.

So, to return to my argument about reactivity, if we base our analysis of an
unknown reaction on rationalizations that are based on questionable (or
false) premises, are we actually able to predict its behavior?  Or are we
simply lucky?  Speaking as an experimental organic chemist who has turned
recently to computational chemistry to find answers to nagging questions
that conventional wisdom (at least among organic chemists!) has not
adequately addressed, I still maintain that accurate prediction of
reactivity remains a highly challenging problem that is not really dealt
with by off-the-shelf solutions.


Dr. Philip G. Hultin
Associate Department Head and
Associate Professor of Chemistry
University of Manitoba
Winnipeg, MB, Canada R3T 2N2
(vox) 204-474-9814
(fax) 204-474-7608
mailto:hultin@cc.umanitoba.ca
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