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Dear All,
  I want to calculate the Ionization Potential (IP) for a particular system. 
I know I can get an approximate value through Koopman's theorem but I would 
like to be more exact. I understand that I can calculate the IP from the 
energy difference between the molecule and its +1 cation. However, what I am 
not sure about is whether I should calculate the energy for the +1 cation 
using the geometry of the of the neutral molecule or whether I should 
optimize the geometry of the cation and then calculate the difference. Your 
comments on the subject are really appreciated. I will summarize if there 
are any responses. Thanks.

Fernando De La Vega

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Dear Dr. Martin Gillis,

I am not familiar with the Altona equation, however this is what I know:
The coupling constant J(AB) can be either positive or negative.  It is
positive when the antiparallel arrangement of nuclear spins  is
energetically favoured, and it is negative when the parallel arrangement
has a lower energy.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

    Cherif

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On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, H. Martin Gillis wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just wondering if anyone is familiar with using the Altona equation for
> predicting vicinal J couplings.  I have recently attempted to use this but I
> noticed that the curves I generated give me negative J values.  Does anyone
> know how to interpret this???
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -Martin
>
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Computing energy of the cation at the same geometry will give you vertical
IP, while  relaxing geometry will result in adiabatic IP. I dont know
which of these you are interested in, because both of them might be
measured in experiment (but different type).

Yours sincerely,
Marcin Makowski
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Hi Martin,

I'm not the expert on J couplings of the Altona group but hopefully
can give you some clues.

First of all, most of the equations for predicting vicinal J couplings
published by the Altona group are valid only for 3J(HH) and some for
3J(13CH) and 3J(19FH) couplings. All are valid only when the coupling
nuclei are bound to aliphatic carbon atoms. Furthermore it is essential
that the correct electronegativity values for the other substituents of
these carbon atoms are entered into the equation. Several schemes to
obtain electronegativity parameters have been used and a specific set
of parameters is valid only in combination with a specific equation.

Negative values of 3J(HH) couplings can occur for torsion angles
around 90 and 270 degrees for compounds with multiple substituents
that have large electronegativity parameters, like 1,2-difluoroethane.
Our research was meant to describe the curves in order to use them
for conformational analysis, so an interpretation must not go beyond
the observation that the substituents are strongly electronegative.

Aldert
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> From: "H. Martin Gillis" <barabbas@mac.com>
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone is familiar with using the Altona equation
> for predicting vicinal J couplings.  I have recently attempted to
> use this but I noticed that the curves I generated give me negative
> J values.  Does anyone know how to interpret this???
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> -Martin
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Dear All,

I would appreciate your help in this file format problem.
Do you know if there are available a program (cheap or free) which could
convert file in sdf format to molecular structure ? 

Thanks in advance!

Regards,
Maija Lahtela-Kakkonen


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You can try to download a version of BABEL for your platform.
Check the following address

http://smog.com/chem/babel/

or look for other links from a search engine (i.e. Google)
It's free, and it's avalable for most used platforms
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Enjoy


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Maija Lahtela wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I would appreciate your help in this file format problem.
> Do you know if there are available a program (cheap or free) which could
> convert file in sdf format to molecular structure ?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Regards,
> Maija Lahtela-Kakkonen
> 
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Hi Pete

Ermm.....it wasn't me who asked the question :-)) it was Sscrates Dantas.

Regards  Roma

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Hi,
Maija Lahtela wrote:

>I would appreciate your help in this file format problem.
>Do you know if there are available a program (cheap or free) which could
>convert file in sdf format to molecular structure ? 
>
It is not clear what you would like to do with the structure.

Using MarvinView (available as applet, JavaBean, or application), you 
can display structures coming from an SDfile, or other structure formats 
like SMILES, Molfile, .... The usage of the application is described at
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Hello,

Fernando De La Vega asked about ionization energies.

Whether you use for your calculation (1) the cation at the geometry of the
neutral or (2) the optimized geometry of the cation, depends on which ionization
energy (ionization potential) you want:
(1) gives the _vertical_ ionization energy,
(2) gives the _adiabatic_  IE

The adiabatic values seem to be of more interest to chemists, since they
represent the energy difference between two "stable" species (potential energy
surface relative minima), but compilations of IE do not always state clearly
whether their listed IEs are vertical or adiabatic; an exception is R. D. levin
and S. G. Lias, "Ionization Potential and  and Appearance Potential
Measurements, 1971-1981", National Bureau of Standards, Washington DC, 1982.

Vertical IEs seem to be slightly (up to 0.2 eV) higher than adiabatic (e.g.
experimental CH3OH, 11.0 and 10.9 eV). Koopman' IEs are about 1.0 eV too high
(CH3OH 12.06 by HF/6-31G*, 12.12 by MP2(fc)/6-31G*, HOMO energy). The difference
of the calculated cation and neutral energies can give accurate IEs if post-HF
calculations are used; for CH3OH (eV):

vertical    HF/6-31G* 9.66, MP2(fc)/6-31G* 10.82

adiabatic  HF/6-31G* 9.38, MP2(fc)/6-31G* 10.6

Note that experimental and calculated vertical IEs are for electronically but
not geometrically relaxed cations; adiabatic IEs are for completely relaxed
cations; and Koopman' IEs refer to cations that are neither electronically nor
geometrically relaxed.

E. Lewars
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Fernando De La Vega wrote:

> Dear All,
>   I want to calculate the Ionization Potential (IP) for a particular system.
> I know I can get an approximate value through Koopman's theorem but I would
> like to be more exact. I understand that I can calculate the IP from the
> energy difference between the molecule and its +1 cation. However, what I am
> not sure about is whether I should calculate the energy for the +1 cation
> using the geometry of the of the neutral molecule or whether I should
> optimize the geometry of the cation and then calculate the difference. Your
> comments on the subject are really appreciated. I will summarize if there
> are any responses. Thanks.
>
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(Gaussian, Gamess, ADF...) as well as from XYZ and PDB files.
MOLEKEL is able to render the molecular structure in different styles, display
orbitals, electron densities, map and color code properties on any surface,
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and produces great graphics...

Look and see!

More information, a precompiled binary for SGI, SUN, LINUX systems and
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E. Lewars wrote:
>Vertical IEs seem to be slightly (up to 0.2 eV) higher than adiabatic (e.g.
>experimental CH3OH, 11.0 and 10.9 eV). 

There's a reason for IE-vert being > IE-adia.  Actually it's implicit in the
rest of E. Lewars' message, but it's worth stating explicitly:  
1. The IE-vert is the energy required to go from neutral at its geometric
energy minimum to cation at the *neutral's* geometric energy minimum; 
2. whereas the IE-adia is the energy required to go from neutral at its
geometric energy minimum to the *cation's* geometric energy minimum.  Note
that the starting point is in both cases the same: the neutral at the
neutral's geometric minimum.
3. And by definition, the cation's energy will be lower at *its* geometric
minimum than at any other geometry, including the neutral's geometric energy
minimum. QED.

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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: CCL:Ionization Potentials


Hello,

Fernando De La Vega asked about ionization energies.

Whether you use for your calculation (1) the cation at the geometry of the
neutral or (2) the optimized geometry of the cation, depends on which
ionization
energy (ionization potential) you want:
(1) gives the _vertical_ ionization energy,
(2) gives the _adiabatic_  IE

The adiabatic values seem to be of more interest to chemists, since they
represent the energy difference between two "stable" species (potential
energy
surface relative minima), but compilations of IE do not always state clearly
whether their listed IEs are vertical or adiabatic; an exception is R. D.
levin
and S. G. Lias, "Ionization Potential and  and Appearance Potential
Measurements, 1971-1981", National Bureau of Standards, Washington DC, 1982.

Vertical IEs seem to be slightly (up to 0.2 eV) higher than adiabatic (e.g.
experimental CH3OH, 11.0 and 10.9 eV). Koopman' IEs are about 1.0 eV too
high
(CH3OH 12.06 by HF/6-31G*, 12.12 by MP2(fc)/6-31G*, HOMO energy). The
difference
of the calculated cation and neutral energies can give accurate IEs if
post-HF
calculations are used; for CH3OH (eV):

vertical    HF/6-31G* 9.66, MP2(fc)/6-31G* 10.82

adiabatic  HF/6-31G* 9.38, MP2(fc)/6-31G* 10.6

Note that experimental and calculated vertical IEs are for electronically
but
not geometrically relaxed cations; adiabatic IEs are for completely relaxed
cations; and Koopman' IEs refer to cations that are neither electronically
nor
geometrically relaxed.

E. Lewars
================

Fernando De La Vega wrote:

> Dear All,
>   I want to calculate the Ionization Potential (IP) for a particular
system.
> I know I can get an approximate value through Koopman's theorem but I
would
> like to be more exact. I understand that I can calculate the IP from the
> energy difference between the molecule and its +1 cation. However, what I
am
> not sure about is whether I should calculate the energy for the +1 cation
> using the geometry of the of the neutral molecule or whether I should
> optimize the geometry of the cation and then calculate the difference.
Your
> comments on the subject are really appreciated. I will summarize if there
> are any responses. Thanks.
>
> Fernando De La Vega
>
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Hi Krzysztof,

it's the underscore problem. It always arises, if you mix C and FORTRAN Code.
So You have to search your man pages for proper handling of mixing both
languages.

By the way, MOPAC 5 is stone edge. Fujitsu is claiming, that even the last free
MOPAC Versions (as I remember V7) are containing a lot of bugs ...

Hth

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Fellow dockers;

I'm using AutoDock3.0, would anyone please lead me
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2002 April 8

Hello,

If anyone knows approximately, or even has just a rough idea, how many
universities in North America (or anywhere else, if you know) offer a
course in computational chemistry, I would very much appreciate this
information. Even an educated guess could be useful.

Thank you.

E. Lewars
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Dear all,

I need the parameters for bond(SH-O2),
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Hello,

hrhbd> By the way, MOPAC 5 is stone edge. Fujitsu is claiming, that even the last free
hrhbd> MOPAC Versions (as I remember V7) are containing a lot of bugs ...
I think, Fujitsu wish that people have to buy the Fujitsu MOPAC instead using a
free version of this one. So, you should take into consideration this moment.
Of course, MOPAC 7 is not ideal and has some bugs, but actually it is working well.
If you would not like to buy new MOPAC or have not enough money, I recommend use GAMESS.
It has included MOPAC code which is working good and faster that one in original MOPAC.


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Mopac6 was the last, free public version intended for production use.  For
many (most?) common uses, it is remarkably stable.  In addition to
bug-fixes, Mopac6 has a major improvement over Mopac5 through the
incorporation of eigenvector following as a minimizer option.  I've never
had to use the more exotic features of the program, so I can't comment on
its suitability for these.  

Mopac7 was the public access version of post-Mopac6 improvements which did
not contain the proprietary (?) features which were included in Mopac93
(which is subject to license).  Mopac7 was _never_ touted as stable
production code, but was intended for "developers" use ... and as a way to
get around the outcry at the "privatization" of the "publicly funded
development" of the Mopac package.

The Fujitsu funded development of Mopac has certainly led to enormous
improvements in algorithms (and invention of some new ones!) and
parameterization.  But they do have a vested interest in encouraging
adoption of the latest bells and whistles.  For the common uses, I am not
aware that Mopac6 (specifically) suffers from serious bugs that would not
have been discussed in the Mopac7/Mopac93 documentation.

If you want to upgrade to Mopac6, all of the "public" versions of Mopac (and
Mopac93) are available from QCPE.

Cheers,
Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: h38052kq@rz.hu-berlin.de [mailto:h38052kq@rz.hu-berlin.de]
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:59 AM
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> Subject: CCL:Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 11:59:15 MET
> 
> 
> Hi Krzysztof,
> 
> it's the underscore problem. It always arises, if you mix C 
> and FORTRAN Code.
> So You have to search your man pages for proper handling of 
> mixing both
> languages.
> 
> By the way, MOPAC 5 is stone edge. Fujitsu is claiming, that 
> even the last free
> MOPAC Versions (as I remember V7) are containing a lot of bugs ...
> 
> Hth
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> Dr. Alexander Hofmann
> 
> Humboldt-Universitaet zu Berlin
> Institut fuer Chemie
> Arbeitsgruppe Quantenchemie
> 
> Brook-Taylor-Strasse 2
> 
> ah@chemie.hu-berlin.de
> 
> Tel.: +49-30-2093-7138
> Fax.: +49-30-2093-7136
> 
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> 
> 
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mopac6 was the last, free public version intended for =
production use.&nbsp; For many (most?) common uses, it is remarkably =
stable.&nbsp; In addition to bug-fixes, Mopac6 has a major improvement =
over Mopac5 through the incorporation of eigenvector following as a =
minimizer option.&nbsp; I've never had to use the more exotic features =
of the program, so I can't comment on its suitability for these.&nbsp; =
</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mopac7 was the public access version of post-Mopac6 =
improvements which did not contain the proprietary (?) features which =
were included in Mopac93 (which is subject to license).&nbsp; Mopac7 =
was _never_ touted as stable production code, but was intended for =
&quot;developers&quot; use ... and as a way to get around the outcry at =
the &quot;privatization&quot; of the &quot;publicly funded =
development&quot; of the Mopac package.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The Fujitsu funded development of Mopac has certainly =
led to enormous improvements in algorithms (and invention of some new =
ones!) and parameterization.&nbsp; But they do have a vested interest =
in encouraging adoption of the latest bells and whistles.&nbsp; For the =
common uses, I am not aware that Mopac6 (specifically) suffers from =
serious bugs that would not have been discussed in the Mopac7/Mopac93 =
documentation.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If you want to upgrade to Mopac6, all of the =
&quot;public&quot; versions of Mopac (and Mopac93) are available from =
QCPE.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cheers,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Steve</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: h38052kq@rz.hu-berlin.de [<A =
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</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:59 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: Krzysztof Radacki</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cc: CCL</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: CCL:Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 11:59:15 =
MET</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Hi Krzysztof,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; it's the underscore problem. It always arises, =
if you mix C </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; and FORTRAN Code.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; So You have to search your man pages for proper =
handling of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; mixing both</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; languages.</FONT>
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