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Hello,

I just wanted to thank everybody who replied to my question about integral 
charges in Autodock.  As suggested by many, I examined the actual residues 
that were giving me problems and found many of them to be incompletely 
modelled (for example, a glutamate without a carboxylate group on the 
sidechain) or the bond order was wrong on some of the atoms.  Modelling the 
complete amino acid or manipulating the charges on individual atoms corrects 
the problem.

Again, thank you very much.

Robert


On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Robert Flight wrote:

> I just started using autodock, and I'm getting an error message about 
residues
> not having integral charges.  Does this mean that the charge on each peptide
> of a receptor has to be an integral value of -1, 0, 1 or something along 
those
> lines?  As well, does anyone know how to avoid this problem, as it occurs
> whether I calculate the charges in AutoDockTools or using another program
> (Molecular Operating Environment - MOE).  Any help or suggestions are
> appreciated.
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> Thanks,
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Dear CCLers

I'm thinking of making calculations of the reaction energies
(dE, dH, dG) for reactions of the type:

Cat+ + An- <=> CatAn

Cat+ will mainly be Li+.

As it comes to choices of methods I'm not so clear on what is the
preferred method:

1. Can G2/G3 type calculations be used? Should I then use ghost atoms to
avoid BSSE (i.e. can G2/G3 use ghost atoms)?
2. Any other methods of preference? So far I've only used HF and B3LYP
methods due to the sizes of the anions, but if significant improvements
can be made with other methods...
3. Preferred basis sets?

Any suggestions or pointers to relevant work much appreciated.

best regards

/Patrik
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Hi,

using the trudge-optimization or ghost-atoms with US-GAMESS requires the
use of so called Hilderbrandt style internals. Even after reading the
article recommended in the GAMESS input documentation

R.L. Hilderbrandt, J.Chem.Phys. 51, 1654 (1969)

the generation of the input file for larger molecules is still more or
less a trial and error procedure. Does someone know of a better reference
to this input-style or is someone aware of a program for doing the
conversion at least semi-automatically ? 

If someone is unfamiliar with the name, here is an example for water (C2V):

O    8.     LC  0.00  0.0  0.00  -  O  K
H    1.    PCC  0.9626645  51.99673  0.00  +  O  K  I

Though this looks fairly simple it gets quite frustrating even for
medium-sized molecules. 

Thank You,

Michael

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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:55:51 +0100


I have met this problem so many times (even with molecules < 15
atoms)that I do not regard CPCM as a viable model except of
course for rigid geometries.Here is some advice I recieved recently:
"When using CPCM one quite often run into optimisation problems
dealing with more complex systems. You may overcome the problem by a
partial optimisation followed by a full optimisation. Usually the 
convergence problem is related to the 'max force'. If this is the case then 
you can identify the degree of freedom, which is related to this max force. 
In the partial
optimisation you should freeze this parameter - usually a dihedral angle. If 
the 'max force'is related to a heteroatom or chemical group it may be
advantageous to freeze all geometric parameters related to this heteroatom 
or heavy atoms in the group.
Sometimes this procedure requires a couple of partial optimisations but we
succeeded in the end. If this doesn't help you may try to change different
parameters related to the solvation model, e.g. increase the number of
tesserae, change the partial charges (hereby change the atomic spheres) in
an initial optimisation followed by an optimisation using default partial
charges".
In my experience the unsophisticated Onsager model in G98
always converges during optimisations.You could also check out
GAMSOL3.0,which incorporates AMSOL into GAMESS(US) [with
excellent documentation] and allows optimisations and frequency
calculations at HF/6-31G* and HF/6-31+G* levels.
Best wishes
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I've worked with Hildebrandt internals and it seems very difficult at the
beginning. But it is not a problem to do it even for molecules with three
aromatic rings. It is only a problem of getting used to it. I know no
programmes to do it in your place. The inconvenient for me is that the
GAMESS programme do not optimize more than ten parameters.
If you have questions you could write me again.

Good luck,

Sorana

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Hello everybody,
I've got a lot of questions for you!
I'm a new Dock4.0 user, unfortunately I do not have access to the Sybyl suite of
programs so I have to obtain mol2 files for docking in alternative ways.
I've tried writing Sybyl_mol2 files with InsightII both for proteins (pdb files)
and for ligands database (mdl files obtained by Catalyst and then convert in sd
files by Babel). For the protein (I've selected Amber98 ff) the sybyl atom types
were not correctly assigned (no N.4 atom type was assigned to the positively
charged aminoacid according with the Tripos force field, carboxylic oxigen were
labelled as O.2 instead of O.co2 and so on...)
For the ligands databases in .sd format (cvff force field selected),often
InsightII does not recognizes correctly the bond orders and consequently does
not assigns proper charges and atom types. The automatic modification of bond
orders within InsightII seems to me not to work well on all molecules. I have
also encountered problems in assigning partial charges with cvff to positively
charged molecules such as protonated triazine derivatives.

My questions are:
Do someone have similar problems?
Is there an alternative procedure to obtain mol2 files appropriate for dock4.0?
(mol2 files obtained by Babel lacks the SUBSTRUCTURE section which is required
by dock4.0)
Is there a way (a freeware script or something like that) to assign partial
charges to a mol2 file obtained by the sdf2mol2 utility of dock?
Have someone ever used the "chunks" executable of Dock to add Gasteiger-Marsili
to mol2 files?  

Any suggestion would be appreciated,
thank you in advance.

Sara

Pacchioni Sara
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Department of Medicinal Chemistry
University of Modena And Reggio Emilia
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2002 June 27

Here is the summary (#1--#7, below); I thank all who responded.

Basically:
SE wavefunctions can't be used, at least not without modification, and
at least not in the original Bader way, because they lack core orbitals
(the SE basis set is a minimal valence set). For most chemistry core
orbitals are not critical, but for AIM they are. Another possible
problem is the small size of the wavefunction (roughly comparable to an
STO-3G?).

E. Lewars
=========
Question

2002 June 23

Hello,

Have there been attempts to use semiempirical wavefunctions (e.g. AM1,
PM3) for, or as starting points for, AIM analysis?

Thanks.

E. Lewars
=========================
Responses

#1

 Joel Foreman <joel.foreman@durham.ac.uk>

Hi,

I'd be interested in any replies you get to this question.
Thanks in advance.

Dr Joel Foreman
Department of Physics
University of Durham
UK
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#2

 Fernando Martin <ferninsf@yahoo.com>

Hi,

  I also looked into that question a few years ago,
but unfortunately I don't think one can generate the
electron density from a wavefunction produced from a
semiempirical Hamiltonian. I would very much
appreciate it if you could summarize the answers you
get. Thanks in advance,

Fernando
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#3

 Dinamica <dinamica@webcable.com.br>


Hello,

There are a few problems here. One is that semi-empirical calculations
describe only valence eletrons and AIM (as i know it) analysis should be
performed with the
full electron density. Another is the minimum basis set...

It would be interesting to see if some kind of correction was used/tried

regading the above problems, specially the absence of core density. Pls,
let me know if you
have answers regarding this.

But topological analysis like AIM, can be performed in different types
of
densities/surfaces.

greetings

Guilherme
------------------------------------
IQUSP - Brasil
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#4

 "Fred P. Arnold" <fparnold@mercury.chem.northwestern.edu>


I don't have the reference handy, [He found it: J Comp Chem, 1996, 18,
416] but Gernot Frenking looked into AIM analysis from ECPs about 8
years ago.  I'll dig for my folder tomorrow at
work, if you're interested.  He found (and I can concur from some work
on
Ruthenim silylenes) that not including the core density creates spurious

critical points in the valence space.  You can still integrate charges,
however, if you eliminate the non-physical points.  BCPs tend also to
differ from their all electron counterparts.

                                                        -Fred

                                        Frederick P. Arnold, Jr.
                                        NUIT, Northwestern U.
                                        f-arnold@northwestern.edu
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#5

 Alan.Shusterman@directory.reed.edu (Alan Shusterman)


I don't know of any attempts, but I'd be skeptical of such treatments
for the following
reasons:

1. There are no explicit core electrons in semi-empirical treatments
2. It is usually recommended that one use extended basis sets for AIM
analyses, but
semi-empirical wavefns, which are implicitly minimal basis, are usually
expanded in the
STO-3G basis
3. I have made visual comparisons of isodensity surfaces from AM1 and ab
initio RHF models
using Spartan, and while these surfaces are qualitatively similar at low
density values, this
is not the case for higher densities (> or =0.08 au).

-Alan



Alan Shusterman
Department of Chemistry
Reed College
3203 S.E. Woodstock Blvd.
Portland, OR 97202
503-771-1112, ext. 7699
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#6

Victor Anisimov <victor@fqspl.com.pl>
(Message 1)

Hi,

There are theoretical limitations on this way as semiempirical methods
do
not
produce wavefunction and density matrix in normal quantum mechanical
sense,
i.e. in a numerical form.

Thus, for example, there is no way to construct a wavefunction based on
MO
coefficients and Slater orbitals as one does in nonempirical methods,
because
atomic orbitals will be non-orthogonal but it is assumed by the NDDO
approximation. The same is true for density matrix.

The strength of semiempirical methods is in property prediction of
molecular
systems involving minimal computational power.

While the aforementioned limitation exist no one can prevent from
analysis
of
curvature of molecular electrostatic potential.

With best regards,
Victor

Victor Anisimov
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Email: victor@fqspl.com.pl
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Tel.(+48 12) 429-4345  Fax(+48 12) 429-6124

(Message 2)
Rereading my message I have noticed an unclear statement regarding
orthogonality, which I'd like to correct:

> > Thus, for example, there is no way to construct a wavefunction based
on
MO
> > coefficients and Slater orbitals as one does in nonempirical
methods,
> > because
> > atomic orbitals will be non-orthogonal but it is assumed by the NDDO

> > approximation.

I intended to say that NDDO assumes AOs orthogonal, while Slater
functions
are
not. Hence there is no way to construct a wavefunction.

> > While the aforementioned limitation exist no one can prevent from
analysis
> > of curvature of molecular electrostatic potential.

This is true of course starting from some distance from atomic centres,
bigger than
interatomic distance, which is out of interest of AIM.

Bonding phenomenon in its full sense exist in the non-empirical
framework
only. Neglect of overlap results in some important terms missing in the
Fockian
and density matrix. Thus, for example, in order to get differential
density
in the
NDDO framework the common procedure assumes renormalization of AOs which

results in non-SCF density matrix. It would be quite risky to draw
bonding
conclusions from such density.

Finally the conclusion is that NDDO methods can not be used for studying

fine
details of electronic distribution which are subject of AIM.

Hope it helps.

Best regards,
Victor.
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 "Bachrach, Steven" <Steven.Bachrach@trinity.edu>


Dr. Lewars,

You cannot do AIM analysis, at least in the way that Bader describes it
with
semiempirical wavefunctions because they do not have core orbitals. The
density is actually dominated by the cores, especially near the nucleus
and
this gives rise to the atoms acting a local attractors. Without the
cores,
attractors may not appear at the nucleus. I tried this years ago.

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From: Jim Stoner <jstoner@du.edu>
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Hi all
Thanks for your time.  I am having a killer of a time getting G98 to build
with smp support.  I am using the current version of PGI F77.  The box I am
using is a Dell Precision 530 w/ 1GB of RAM.  The system environment is:

# uname -a
Linux strontium 2.4.9-21smp #1 SMP Thu Jan 17 14:01:48 EST 2002 i686 unknown

Other applications compile and run under SMP with no problem.  However, G98
kicks back the following in the logfile before it seg/malloc faults and core
dumps from:

# g98 ./2proctest.com ./ &
[2] 1489
# shmget failed.: Invalid argument
[2]    Exit 1                        g98 ./2proctest.com ./
#

<snip logifile>
***********************************************
 Gaussian 98:  x86-Linux-G98RevA.11.1 1-Nov-2001
                   27-Jun-2002
 ***********************************************
 %Chk=js3-5.chk
 %mem=50MB
 %NPROC=2
 Will use up to    2 processors via shared memory.
 -------------------------
 #P UHF/6-31G Opt PROP=epr
 -------------------------
 1/18=20,38=1/1,3;
 2/9=110,17=6,18=5,40=1/2;
 3/5=1,6=6,11=2,25=1,30=1/1,2,3;
 4/7=2/1;
 5/5=2,38=4/2;
 6/7=2,8=2,9=2,10=2,17=2,26=4,28=1/1,2;
 7//1,2,3,16;
 1/18=20/3(1);
 99//99;
 2/9=110/2;
 3/5=1,6=6,11=2,25=1,30=1/1,2,3;
 4/5=5,7=2,16=2/1;
 5/5=2,38=4/2;
 7//1,2,3,16;
 1/18=20/3(-5);
 2/9=110/2;
 6/7=2,8=2,9=2,10=2,17=2,19=2,26=4,28=1/1,2;
 99/9=1/99;
 Leave Link    1 at Thu Jun 27 20:22:55 2002, MaxMem=    6553600 cpu:
0.1
<snip logifile>

If I try to specify 2 processors and worse, if I reduce the memory
allocation even farther so it thinks it has enough, then it starts stating
it is reducing the number of processors and evoking LINDA.  Any ideas?

Thanks again,
Jim


PS.  Has anyone seen a substantial increases in production by envoking ATLAS
instead of BLAS?  Is it worth getting A11.3 for the ATLAS build?  All
thoughts would be gratefully appreciated...


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James W. Stoner
Doctoral Student
University of Denver
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
Eaton Electron Paramagnetic Resonance Labs
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