From chemistry-request@server.ccl.net Sat Oct 26 14:18:22 2002
Received: from medusa.wo.utoledo.edu ([131.183.69.81])
	by server.ccl.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g9QIIMv03663
	for <chemistry@ccl.net>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:18:22 -0400
Received: from there (IDENT:w9dUksVR2eZ+Y4T7+pf70EezJ87DU2Dz@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
	by medusa.wo.utoledo.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9QIKZV08305;
	Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:20:35 -0400
Message-Id: <200210261820.g9QIKZV08305@medusa.wo.utoledo.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset="iso-8859-1"
From: Venkataraman Kabaleeswaran <vkabale@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
Reply-To: vkabale@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Organization: univ of toledo
To: CCL <chemistry@ccl.net>
Subject: ligplot
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:20:35 -0400
X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1]
Cc: Iain Wallace <wallacei@tcd.ie>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

hi all and lain,

In order to get ligplot , please send email to  DR.Roman Laskowski
his email is "roman@biochem.ucl.ac.uk"
you can get  friendly and immediate response from him.

cheers
venkataraman

From chemistry-request@server.ccl.net Sat Oct 26 21:06:52 2002
Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117])
	by server.ccl.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g9R16pv19227
	for <chemistry@ccl.net>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:06:51 -0400
Received: from dopetec ([138.23.156.82]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net
          (InterMail vM.5.01.05.xx 201-253-122-126-xxx-20020920) with ESMTP
          id <20021027010650.NABT12880.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@dopetec>
          for <chemistry@ccl.net>; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:06:50 +0000
Message-ID: <013f01c27d55$21f6cdb0$529c178a@dopetec>
From: "Donald Keidel" <dkeidel397@att.net>
To: <chemistry@ccl.net>
Subject: thermodynamic integration
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:06:50 -0700
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013C_01C27D1A.74E9DB60"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_013C_01C27D1A.74E9DB60
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello CCLers,

I am thinking of purchasing AMBER and using Gibbs to perform some =
thermodynamic integration techniques.  The manual, however, does not go =
into too much theory regarding the TI technique used in AMBER and in =
particular the equation that is actually integrated over the limits of =
lambda.  Does anyone know of a reference that may describe the technique =
and equation in more detail.  Also, does anyone know of research groups =
that may have developed their own code to perform TI calculations?  All =
responses are appreciated.  Thank you very much.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
--------------------------------------
Donald J. Keidel
University of California, Riverside
Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
Riverside, CA 92521
phone:  (909) 787-5493
fax:  (909) 787-4434
dkeidel397@att.net
webpage: www.biochemistry.ucr.edu/gru/gradstudents/don_keidel/index.htm



------=_NextPart_000_013C_01C27D1A.74E9DB60
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello CCLers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am thinking of purchasing AMBER and =
using Gibbs=20
to perform some thermodynamic integration techniques.&nbsp; The manual, =
however,=20
does not go into too much theory regarding the TI technique used in =
AMBER and in=20
particular the equation that is actually integrated over the limits of=20
lambda.&nbsp; Does anyone know of a reference that may describe the =
technique=20
and equation in more detail.&nbsp; Also, does anyone know of research =
groups=20
that may have developed their own code to perform TI calculations?&nbsp; =
All=20
responses are appreciated.&nbsp; Thank you very much.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>----------------------------------------------------------------=
-----------------------------------------------<BR>Donald=20
J. Keidel<BR>University of California, Riverside<BR>Department of =
Biochemistry=20
and Molecular Biology<BR>Riverside, CA 92521<BR>phone:&nbsp; (909)=20
787-5493<BR>fax:&nbsp; (909) 787-4434<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:dkeidel397@att.net">dkeidel397@att.net</A><BR>webpage: <A =

href=3D"http://www.biochemistry.ucr.edu/gru/gradstudents/don_keidel/index=
.htm">www.biochemistry.ucr.edu/gru/gradstudents/don_keidel/index.htm</A><=
/FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_013C_01C27D1A.74E9DB60--



From chemistry-request@server.ccl.net Sat Oct 26 13:13:46 2002
Received: from mu21.vnn.vn ([203.162.4.8])
	by server.ccl.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g9QHDiv02986
	for <chemistry@ccl.net>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:13:45 -0400
Received: from chutam ([203.41.55.49]) by mu21.vnn.vn (Netscape
          Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4LMIT02.9KI; Sun, 27 Oct
          2002 00:13:41 +0700 
From: "Truong  Chu Tam" <tamtruong@hcm.vnn.vn>
To: "'Iain Wallace'" <wallacei@tcd.ie>, "'CCL'" <chemistry@ccl.net>
Subject: RE: Surfnet and Ligplot and Ligbuilder
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:16:14 +0700
Message-ID: <000501c27d13$640bc9e0$313729cb@chutam>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C27D4E.106AA1E0"
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616
Importance: Normal
In-Reply-To: <000a01c27c47$0b01e130$626ce286@wallaceiwork>
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C27D4E.106AA1E0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You can log in to this URL by anonymous and enter your email =85.
=20
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Computational Chemistry List [mailto:chemistry-request@ccl.net] On
Behalf Of Iain Wallace
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 11:53 PM
To: CCL
Subject: CCL:Surfnet and Ligplot and Ligbuilder
=20
Hi all,
=20
Sorry to bother you but does any one know how to get the programs
ligplot and surfnet?
I have tried to ftp them from  <ftp://ftp.biochem.ucl.ac.uk>
ftp.biochem.ucl.ac.uk but it asks for a user name and password and I
don't know
how to get it. What should I do?=20
=20
I am also having trouble installing LigBuilder. I have downloaded the
file but I cann't manage to decrypt it as I my e-mails keep getting
bounced back when I e-mail Prof. Lai at lai@ipc.pku.edu.cn Does anyone
know who I should e-mail ?=20
=20
I am a postgraduate student in TCD=20
=20
Thanks for your help again
=20
Iain
=20

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C27D4E.106AA1E0
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" =
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">

<head>
<META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">


<meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document>
<meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10">
<meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10">
<link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C27D4D.C393C3B0">
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <o:OfficeDocumentSettings>
  <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/>
 </o:OfficeDocumentSettings>
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <w:WordDocument>
  <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState>
  <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind>
  <w:EnvelopeVis/>
  <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel>
 </w:WordDocument>
</xml><![endif]-->
<style>
<!--
 /* Font Definitions */
 @font-face
	{font-family:Tahoma;
	panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;
	mso-font-charset:0;
	mso-generic-font-family:swiss;
	mso-font-pitch:variable;
	mso-font-signature:553679495 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;}
 /* Style Definitions */
 p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
	{mso-style-parent:"";
	margin:0in;
	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
	font-size:12.0pt;
	font-family:"Times New Roman";
	mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
	{color:blue;
	text-decoration:underline;
	text-underline:single;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
	{color:blue;
	text-decoration:underline;
	text-underline:single;}
span.EmailStyle18
	{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
	mso-style-noshow:yes;
	mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
	mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;
	font-family:Arial;
	mso-ascii-font-family:Arial;
	mso-hansi-font-family:Arial;
	mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;
	color:navy;}
@page Section1
	{size:8.5in 11.0in;
	margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;
	mso-header-margin:.5in;
	mso-footer-margin:.5in;
	mso-paper-source:0;}
div.Section1
	{page:Section1;}
-->
</style>
<!--[if gte mso 10]>
<style>
 /* Style Definitions */=20
 table.MsoNormalTable
	{mso-style-name:"Table Normal";
	mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;
	mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;
	mso-style-noshow:yes;
	mso-style-parent:"";
	mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;
	mso-para-margin:0in;
	mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
	font-size:10.0pt;
	font-family:"Times New Roman";}
</style>
<![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
  <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
 </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>

<body bgcolor=3Dwhite lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dblue =
style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'>

<div class=3DSection1>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You can log in to this URL by =
anonymous
and enter your email &#8230;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Computational =
Chemistry List
[mailto:chemistry-request@ccl.net] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Iain Wallace<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 25, =
2002
11:53 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> CCL<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> CCL:Surfnet and =
Ligplot
and Ligbuilder</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi =
all,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sorry to bother you but =
does any one
know how to get the programs ligplot and =
surfnet?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have tried to ftp them =
from&nbsp;<a
href=3D"ftp://ftp.biochem.ucl.ac.uk"><em><i><font face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-family:Arial'>ftp.biochem.ucl.ac.uk</span></font></i></em><=
/a><em><i><font
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'> =
</span></font></i></em>but it asks
for a user name and password and I don't =
know</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>how to get it. What should =
I do? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am also having trouble =
installing
LigBuilder. I have downloaded the file but I cann't manage to decrypt it =
as I
my e-mails keep getting</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>bounced back when I e-mail =
Prof. Lai
at <a href=3D"mailto:lai@ipc.pku.edu.cn">lai@ipc.pku.edu.cn</a> Does =
anyone know
who I should e-mail ? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am a postgraduate student =
in TCD </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks for your help =
again</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Iain</span></font><o:p></o:p=
></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

</div>

</body>

</html>

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C27D4E.106AA1E0--



From chemistry-request@server.ccl.net Sat Oct 26 05:34:51 2002
Received: from jeeves.ccdc.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.113.44])
	by server.ccl.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g9Q9Yoj30455
	for <chemistry@ccl.net>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 05:34:50 -0400
Received: from www-data by jeeves.ccdc.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))
	id 185NLD-0005Wv-00; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:34:47 +0100
To: Victor Ferro <victor.ferro@uam.es>
Subject: Re: CCL:Fwd: File convertion
Message-ID: <1035624887.3dba61b789938@jeeves.ccdc.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:34:47 +0100 (BST)
From: streek@ccdc.cam.ac.uk
Cc: chemistry@ccl.net
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ1035624887d46269b63be00190b5ce2c8050bc002c"
User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6
X-Originating-IP: 80.4.1.89

This message is in MIME format.

---MOQ1035624887d46269b63be00190b5ce2c8050bc002c
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Quoting Victor Ferro <victor.ferro@uam.es>:
> Dear colleagues:
> I have attempted to convert the geometry contained in the attached
> file 
> to cartesian (or internal) coordinates using Babel, but I have not 
> achieved to make it.
> Would someone help me, please.
> I will be very gratefully.
> Thank you in advance
> 
> Victor Ferro.

Dear Victor,

the program mentioned in the file itself can do this:
#   For further information visit CCDC www.ccdc.cam.ac.uk
#   To view the CIF, please download Mercury from this site. 

Mercury can be downloaded for free from 
http://www.ccdc.cam.ac.uk

It can read your file, display it, and save it in various other formats, among 
them pdb and mol2 both of which contain cartesian co-ordinates.

I have also converted your file into a zmatrix format, as attached. This z-
matrix was generated from the centre of the molecule working outwards, so as to 
avoid "the tail is wagging the dog" effects, but this might not be relevant for 
your application. (The z-matrix was generated using a part of Mercury that is 
not currently publicly available.)

Best wishes,
-- 
Jacco van de Streek
Research Scientist
Cambridge Crystallographic Data Centre
Cambridge, United Kingdom

---MOQ1035624887d46269b63be00190b5ce2c8050bc002c
Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="PHTLBC.zmatrix"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="PHTLBC.zmatrix"
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---MOQ1035624887d46269b63be00190b5ce2c8050bc002c--


From chemistry-request@server.ccl.net Sat Oct 26 02:27:46 2002
Received: from wellington.cnchost.com ([207.155.252.14])
	by server.ccl.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g9Q6Rjj26768
	for <chemistry@ccl.net>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:27:46 -0400
Received: from guillermo ([63.127.188.156])
	by wellington.cnchost.com
	id CAA20539; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:27:42 -0400 (EDT)
	[ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.14]
Errors-To: <morales@combichemlab.com>
Reply-To: <morales@combichemlab.com>
From: "Guillermo A. Morales" <morales@combichemlab.com>
To: "Iain Wallace" <wallacei@tcd.ie>, "CCL" <chemistry@ccl.net>
Subject: RE: Surfnet and Ligplot and Ligbuilder
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 23:27:59 -0700
Message-ID: <HDENKCNNADDDGKGBNGJBGEJMCOAA.morales@combichemlab.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C27C7E.27938CE0"
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300
Importance: Normal
In-Reply-To: <000a01c27c47$0b01e130$626ce286@wallaceiwork>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C27C7E.27938CE0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Dear Iain,

Usually to access ftp sites via anonymous ftp you usually enter for username
the word "anonymous" (without the quotation marks) and then the server asks
you to enter your email address.

About reaching Prof. Lai, I also experience the same thing, all email
bounced back.

Instead try to email Dr. Gao Yin at gao@mdl.ipc.pku.edu.cn

I had to email Dr. Yin several times. For some reason their server tends to
bounce back emails as well. Eventually one makes it through.

I hope it helps.

Best of luck,

- Guillermo.
-----
Dr. Guillermo A. Morales
Morales Consulting
E-mail: morales@combichemlab.com
Website: http://www.combichemlab.com
Member of the Combi-Web Consortium: http://www.combi-web.com


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Computational Chemistry List [mailto:chemistry-request@ccl.net]On
Behalf Of Iain Wallace
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:53 AM
  To: CCL
  Subject: CCL:Surfnet and Ligplot and Ligbuilder


  Hi all,

  Sorry to bother you but does any one know how to get the programs ligplot
and surfnet?
  I have tried to ftp them from ftp.biochem.ucl.ac.uk but it asks for a user
name and password and I don't know
  how to get it. What should I do?

  I am also having trouble installing LigBuilder. I have downloaded the file
but I cann't manage to decrypt it as I my e-mails keep getting
  bounced back when I e-mail Prof. Lai at lai@ipc.pku.edu.cn Does anyone
know who I should e-mail ?

  I am a postgraduate student in TCD

  Thanks for your help again

  Iain

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C27C7E.27938CE0
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4919.2200" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D573492006-26102002>Dear=20
Iain,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D573492006-26102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D573492006-26102002>Usually to access ftp sites via anonymous ftp =
you=20
usually enter for username the word "anonymous" (without the quotation =
marks)=20
and then the server asks you to enter your email =
address.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D573492006-26102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D573492006-26102002>About=20
reaching Prof. Lai, I also experience the same thing, all email bounced=20
back.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D573492006-26102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D573492006-26102002>Instead try to email Dr. Gao Yin at <A=20
href=3D"mailto:gao@mdl.ipc.pku.edu.cn">gao@mdl.ipc.pku.edu.cn</A></SPAN><=
/FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D573492006-26102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D573492006-26102002>I had=20
to email Dr. Yin several times. For some reason their server tends to =
bounce=20
back emails as well. Eventually one makes it =
through.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D573492006-26102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D573492006-26102002>I hope=20
it helps.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D573492006-26102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D573492006-26102002>Best=20
of luck,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D573492006-26102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D573492006-26102002>-=20
Guillermo.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D573492006-26102002>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-----<BR>Dr. Guillermo A. Morales<BR>Morales=20
Consulting<BR>E-mail: morales@combichemlab.com<BR>Website: <A =
target=3D_blank=20
href=3D"http://www.combichemlab.com/">http://www.combichemlab.com</A><BR>=
Member of=20
the Combi-Web Consortium: <A target=3D_blank=20
href=3D"http://www.combi-web.com/">http://www.combi-web.com</A><BR>&nbsp;=
</FONT>=20
</P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Computational =
Chemistry List=20
  [mailto:chemistry-request@ccl.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Iain=20
  Wallace<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 25, 2002 9:53 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =

  CCL<BR><B>Subject:</B> CCL:Surfnet and Ligplot and=20
  Ligbuilder<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to bother you but does any one =
know how to=20
  get the programs ligplot and surfnet?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have tried to ftp them from&nbsp;<A =

  =
href=3D"ftp://ftp.biochem.ucl.ac.uk"><EM>ftp.biochem.ucl.ac.uk</EM></A><E=
M>=20
  </EM>but it asks for a user name and password and I don't =
know</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>how to get it. What should I do? =
</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am also having trouble installing =
LigBuilder. I=20
  have downloaded the file but I cann't manage to decrypt it as I my =
e-mails=20
  keep getting</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>bounced back when I e-mail Prof. Lai =
at <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:lai@ipc.pku.edu.cn">lai@ipc.pku.edu.cn</A> Does anyone =
know who I=20
  should e-mail ? </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am a postgraduate student in TCD =
</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for your help =
again</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Iain</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C27C7E.27938CE0--



From chemistry-request@server.ccl.net Sat Oct 26 04:37:37 2002
Received: from century.fen.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.97.100])
	by server.ccl.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g9Q8bZj29847
	for <chemistry@ccl.net>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 04:37:35 -0400
Received: from localhost (d7992.dorm.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.137.92])
	by century.fen.bilkent.edu.tr (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08880
	for <chemistry@ccl.net>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:32:52 +0300 (EET DST)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:37:33 +0300
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Subject: error message in G98
From: Ulrike Salzner <salzner@fen.Bilkent.EDU.TR>
To: chemistry@ccl.net
Message-Id: <2C40CAEC-E8BE-11D6-B983-00039377B832@fen.bilkent.edu.tr>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by server.ccl.net id g9Q8bbj29850

Hello,
can somebody explain the following error message in G98 to me?

  Two-electron integral symmetry is turned on.
   1572 basis functions     2472 primitive gaussians
    267 alpha electrons      267 beta electrons
        nuclear repulsion energy      7684.4047718364 Hartrees.
  One-electron integrals computed using PRISM.
  PrsmSu:  requested number of processors reduced to:   1 ShMem   1 Linda.
    4 Symmetry operations used in ECPInt.
  ECPInt:  NShTT=   57970 NPrTT=  161938 LenC2=   18539 LenP2D=   39068.
  LDataN:  DoStor=F MaxTD1= 4 Len=   56
  LDataN:  DoStor=T MaxTD1= 4 Len=   56
Number of processors reduced to   1 by ecpmxn.
  NBasis=  1572 RedAO= T  NBF=   562   224   224   562
  NBsUse=  1572 1.00D-04 NBFU=   562   224   224   562
  ShPair-MaxDen allocation failure:  iend,mxcore=   1357032   1345944
  Error termination via Lnk1e in /usr/g98/l303.exe.
  Job cpu time:  0 days  0 hours  8 minutes 48.8 seconds.
  File lengths (MBytes):  RWF=  126 Int=    0 D2E=    0 Chk=    1 
Scr=    1

As seen from the second and third line, it is a pretty big job. It is an 
attempted DFT B3P86 geometry optimization on a conjugated π-system with 
c2h symmetry that will have a very small <0.2 eV energy gap. Maybe this 
causes the problem. The computer is a dual processor 933MHz PC with 1 Gb 
of memory and about 16 Gb free disk space. Can somebody tell me how to 
get the job running?

Thanks,
Ulrike Salzner



