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Hello all.  This is my first posting to the list, although I have browsed
it on the web off an on over the past couple years.  Recently, our
research group has been using NWChem to examine some small water clusters.
( http://www.emsl.pnl.gov:2080/docs/nwchem/nwchem.html )

While overall a good program, especially when paired with their job
creation/manager program, Ecce, we have run into a few snags.  All of
these have been submitted through the offical reporting channels (and a
few have been solved, and patch provided by NWChem dev team) and I'd
like to see if anyone on CCL has a solution to these problems that we
haven't resolved yet.

I'll be as brief as possible .. more verbose input files or error messages
are available upon request.  All calculations have been attempted on an
AMD/linux cluster and a SGI Origin2000.

Problem 1:  B3LYP/aug-cc-pVTZ frequency calculation on S4 symmetry cyclic
water tetramer crashes.  Calculation does not crash when aug-cc-pVDZ basis
set is used.  Freq calcs on some different systems using aug-cc-pVTZ have
been successful.  Geometry used for input is:

geometry autosym units angstrom
 O     1.37380     1.37380     0.00536900
 O     -1.37380     1.37380     -0.00536900
 O     1.37380     -1.37380     -0.00536900
 O     -1.37380     -1.37380     0.00536900
 H     1.51067     0.398269     -0.00383100
 H     -0.398269     1.51067     0.00383100
 H     0.398269     -1.51067     0.00383100
 H     -1.51067     -0.398269     -0.00383100
 H     1.87950     1.68938     0.764311
 H     -1.68938     1.87950     -0.764311
 H     1.68938     -1.87950     -0.764311
 H     -1.87950     -1.68938     0.764311
end

part of error from the SGI, after 'Multipole Analysis' section of output:

 Read molecular orbitals from ./tetramer.movecs

                     2 grinfo reading failed                    2
  calling routine: intdd_1eh1
 int_c2s_mv: lscr to small by      1665
2:2:int_c2s_mv: lscr to small by:: 1665
2:2:int_c2s_mv: lscr to small by:: 1665
Last System Error Message from Task 2:: Result too large
  2: ARMCI aborting 1665 (0x681).

---

Problem 2: In the above mentioned water tetramer (to use one example): the
automatic detection of symmetry in the output is C2.  However, the symmetry
toolkit in Ecce's builder correctly identifies the more exact S4 point
group.  I do not know if this is a bug, or just a lack of feature.
Certainly the calculation would go faster if S4 symmetry could be
exploited instead of C2.  I might get around to building it as a S4
cluster using symmetry-specific input to see what happens.

---

Problem 3:  this is a 'lack of feature' that I'm curious if anyone has a
patch to fix..

Dipole Moment Analysis is not available in NBO.  As noted from a NBO 5.0
webpage at http://www.chem.wisc.edu/~nbo5/EX_DIPOL.HTM , "The DIPOLE
keyword requires that the host program provide dipole integrals, and is
hence unavailable for some packages."  Although the dipole keyword is
recognized, as shown in the output as:

       /DIPOLE / : Print NBO/NLMO dipole moment analysis

...no such dipole information is present in the output.

---


Problem 4: this one is a bit harder to explain, so I'm including more
information.  method was B3LYP/aug-cc-pVDZ.  this is also new; we're just
sending it off to the NWChem people today.

When using ghost atoms with orbitals to perform a BSSE (basis
set superposition error) calculation, and geometry input is read-in as
z-matrix, DFT sometimes fails to provide a reasonable energy.  NOTE: this
is using nwchem 4.1 (there was a known problem, now fixed, with ghost
orbitals + DFT in previous versions). Furthermore, the cartesian
coordinates generated by the z-matrix input do not match those generated
by babel for the same z-matrix (there is an inversion of signs in the x
and z coordinates).  However, MP2 gives equivalent, "correct",  results
for both z-matrix and all cartesian coordinate inputs.

I have performed the following calculations:

1. DFT + z-matrix (the input type our work requires)
2. DFT + cartesian coords (generated by babel, from z-matrix in #1)
3. DFT + cartesian coords (coordinates taken from nwchem output in #1)
4. MP2 + z-matrix
5. MP2 + cartesian coords (generated by babel, from z-matrix in #1)

#1 and #3 produce unreasonable energies with the following error during
the energy calculation at every iteration:

 WARNING: error on integrated density =  0.20E+02
 greater than required accuracy of  0.10E-06

attempts to remove this error by turning off DIIS, raising tolerance for
initial guess, or changing DFT integration grid density have failed.

input z-matrix and basis for "#1" follows:

geometry autosym units angstrom
            zmatrix
                H
                O    1 r2
                H    2 r3    1 a3
                X2    3 r4    2 a4    1 d4
                X1    4 r5    3 a5    2 d5
                X1    4 r6    3 a6    2 d6
                variables
                r2 0.9637
                r3 0.8728
                a3  95.07
                r4 1.8441
                a4 172.11
                d4 179.97
                r5 0.9654
                a5 110.73
                d5  58.09
                r6 0.9654
                a6 110.73
                d6 301.91
            end
end

basis "ao basis" spherical print
  H library "aug-cc-pVDZ"
  O library "aug-cc-pVDZ"
  X1 library H aug-cc-pVDZ
  X2 library O aug-cc-pVDZ
END


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Hi,
  it seems that the MDL mol format generated by Babel is not the same as that 
generated by Hyperchem. Doesanybody have a reference to the details of the 
MDL mol file format generated by Hyperchem?

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Dear all,

I have a question relative to the calculation of oscillator strengths
and Mulliken charges at the MS-CASPT2 level. If I understand well, the
oscillator strengths are calculated using PMCAS functions (as written in
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Moreover, I am not sure of the procedure for calculating the Mulliken
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I really would appreciate any explanations, because I get some
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Hi --

I have a 140 atom molecule and I'm using PM3 on it.  I've used
COOR=UNIQUE and GAMESS seems to correctly reconstruct the molecule based
on the symmetrically unique atoms I give it, but it dies in
convergence.  I have changed the max number of steps to 200 and
increased the time limit to 20 minutes.  On gaussian, a similar system
converged in about 11 minutes.

I've included the relevant part of the log file as well as my input.

Input:
! EXAM23.
!   semiempirical calculation, using the MOPAC/GAMESS combo
!   C140, neutral, RHF wavefunctions
!
 $CONTRL MAXIT=200 SCFTYP=RHF RUNTYP=OPTIMIZE COORD=UNIQUE ICHARG=0
MULT=1 $END
 $SYSTEM TIMLIM=20 MWORDS=150 $END
 $BASIS GBASIS=PM3 $END
 $DATA
C140 test...semiempirical models
Cnh 2

***atom specificiation***


And the output I get:
     NUCLEAR ENERGY =      3040.7430974840
     MAXIT =  200     NPUNCH=    2
     EXTRAP=T  DAMP=F  SHIFT=F  RSTRCT=F  DIIS=F  DEM=F  SOSCF=F
     DENSITY MATRIX CONV=  1.00E-05
     MEMORY REQUIRED FOR RHF STEP=   3178280 WORDS.

 ITER EX DEM    TOTAL ENERGY       E CHANGE  DENSITY CHANGE    DIIS
ERROR
   1  0  0      -76.778068024   -76.778068024   1.257051368
0.000000000
   2  1  0      -38.289475039    38.488592985   1.857634685
0.000000000
   3  2  0      780.350720056   818.640195095   1.999973409
0.000000000
   4  3  0      980.355446048   200.004725992   1.999990110
0.000000000
   5  4  0      843.884948956  -136.470497092   1.999990976
0.000000000
   6  5  0      984.742347206   140.857398250   1.999990976
0.000000000
   7  6  0      843.863672747  -140.878674459   1.999990988
0.000000000
   8  7  0      984.755984770   140.892312023   1.999990988
0.000000000
   9  8  0      843.863529497  -140.892455273   1.999990989
0.000000000
  10  9  0      984.755523393   140.891993896   1.999990989
0.000000000
  11 10  0      843.863499459  -140.892023934   1.999990989
0.000000000
  12 11  0      984.755453179   140.891953721   1.999990989
0.000000000
  13 12  0      843.863493818  -140.891959361   1.999990989
0.000000000
  14  0  0      984.755441308   140.891947489   1.999974020
0.000000000
  15  1  0      169.463522486  -815.291918821   1.999946969
0.000000000
  16  2  0      457.533116772   288.069594285   1.999963404
0.000000000
  17  3  0      603.298480482   145.765363710   1.999989571
0.000000000
  18  4  0      847.510677991   244.212197509   1.999990047
0.000000000
  19  5  0      805.969760494   -41.540917497   1.999991650
0.000000000
  20  6  0      979.330336367   173.360575873   1.999991670
0.000000000
  .......
........
 178  1  0      148.463864386  -839.540700887   1.999959263
0.000000000
 179  2  0      534.479233063   386.015368676   1.999976151
0.000000000
 180  3  0      464.163776551   -70.315456512   1.999990524
0.000000000
 181  0  0      986.773651038   522.609874487   1.999946226
0.000000000
 182  1  0      471.503940149  -515.269710889   1.999905857
0.000000000
 183  2  0      677.038883108   205.534942958   1.999986757
0.000000000

 SCF IS UNCONVERGED, TOO LITTLE TIME LEFT
     TIME TO FORM FOCK OPERATORS=      24.2 SECONDS (       0.1
SEC/ITER)
     TIME TO SOLVE SCF EQUATIONS=    1128.4 SECONDS (       6.2
SEC/ITER)

 FINAL R-PM3 ENERGY IS        0.0000000000 AFTER 183 ITERATIONS

          ------------
          EIGENVECTORS
          ------------
...... END OF RHF CALCULATION ......
 STEP CPU TIME =  1168.46 TOTAL CPU TIME =     1204.0 (   20.1 MIN)
 TOTAL WALL CLOCK TIME=     1318.2 SECONDS, CPU UTILIZATION IS  91.33%
1          ***** FAILURE TO LOCATE STATIONARY POINT, SCF HAS NOT
CONVERGED
     UPDATED HESSIAN, GEOMETRY, AND VECTORS WILL BE PUNCHED FOR RESTART
 EXECUTION OF GAMESS TERMINATED -ABNORMALLY- AT Thu Feb  6 17:01:14 2003

 3179960 WORDS OF DYNAMIC MEMORY USED
 STEP CPU TIME =     0.01 TOTAL CPU TIME =     1204.0 (   20.1 MIN)
 TOTAL WALL CLOCK TIME=     1318.2 SECONDS, CPU UTILIZATION IS  91.33%
 *** ERROR TERMINATION *** IN COMPUTE PROCESS     0
        0 WORDS, CPU=     0.0 SECONDS.



Any thoughts?

Thanks.
Connie





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From: Arvydas Tamulis <tamulis@mserv.itpa.lt>
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Dear Netters,

Would you please to advise me spin transport calculation in
molecules programe.

Best regards, Arvydas Tamulis
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Dear CCLers:

Could anybody please point me to resources, where I can find basis set
parameters used for nonhydrogen link atoms (pseudohalogen atoms) in
QM/MM calculations, or to references, how such parameters can be
derived. Thank you very much.

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Thomas
 
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