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Hi all,

Does anyone know the zindo boron parameters such as resonance integral, 
ionization potential for s and p shells, slater condon factors?

Any reference suggested.

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>From: Pradipta Bandyopadhyay <pradipta@cgl.ucsf.edu>
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>    What are the best softwares (free and for UNIX) to do non-linear
>fitting for a very large amount of data?

gnuplot :)

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Hallo everybody,
			  could somebody of you suggest me good review-papers on scoring and 
scoring functions? I would like to find out which are the most used 
procedures to score docking results.
Thank you in advace
Best regards
mike

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>     What are the best softwares (free and for UNIX) to do non-linear
> fitting for a very large amount of data?

Hello, non-linear fitting is a quite huge topic from fitting simple
nonlinear functions to neural-net based stuff. If you have too many
points, be aware of the robustness of the procedure. In short if you have
too many points at some part of the data, that will be overrepresented
biasing the final parameter estimates.  Softwares you can try:

http://www.octave.org/

"GNU Octave is a high-level language, primarily intended for numerical 
computations. It provides a convenient command line interface for solving 
linear and nonlinear problems numerically, and for performing other 
numerical experiments using a language that is mostly compatible with 
Matlab."

http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/

"Grace is a WYSIWYG 2D plotting tool for the X Window System and M*tif. 
Grace runs on practically any version of Unix-like OS. " (it also has 
curve fitting capabilities)

http://www.gnuplot.info/

Gnuplot itself can do some nonlinear fitting, type "help fit" in its 
command prompt.

Hope it helps:

Szilva



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can anyone point me to a paper where the reasons for the too large energy gap between calculated (Hartree-Fock) HOMO-LUMO orbitals in comparison to the longest wavelenght absorbtion is discussed? In fact I am looking not for a lot of examples or calculations but for a more general paper (which can be cited aswell) discussing why HF calculations give much too short longest wavelength absorbtions compared to the experiment.

Thanks in advance

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, pop14848 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> can anyone point me to a paper where the reasons for the too large
> energy gap between calculated (Hartree-Fock) HOMO-LUMO orbitals in
> comparison to the longest wavelenght absorbtion is discussed? In fact I
> am looking not for a lot of examples or calculations but for a more
> general paper (which can be cited aswell) discussing why HF calculations
> give much too short longest wavelength absorbtions compared to the
> experiment.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Eike Huebner
>

Hello,

I am not aware of an exact reference, rather you might want to look in
textbooks.

As far as I understand, the reason is double.

First, if we write down the HF excitation energy from orbial "i" to a
virtual orbital "a", supposing them frozen, with orbial energies e(i) and
e(a), we obtain:

delta E(i->a)=e(a)-e(i)-<ia||ia>,

which is not simply orbital energy difference.

Second, HF virtual orbital energies are unphysical themselves: one can
show that e(a) includes the Coulomb repulsion with all n electrons, and
not only the remaining (n-1); that is self-interaction is not excluded.
This pushes virtual orbitals up in the energy scale.

Sincerely, Victor.

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Dear Mike,

A very good recent review is:

"The Use of Scoring Functions in Drug Discovery Applications"
Hans-Joachim Bohm and Martin Stahl
Reviews in Computational Chemistry Vol 18, pp 41-87
Eds. Kenny B. Lipkowitz and Donald B. Boyd
Wiley-VCH, 2002


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> 
> Hallo everybody,
> 			  could somebody of you suggest me good 
> review-papers on scoring and 
> scoring functions? I would like to find out which are the most used 
> procedures to score docking results.
> Thank you in advace
> Best regards
> mike
> 
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Some general papers I would suggest...

1. Current Opinion in Structural Biology, Volume 11, Issue2, 1 April 2001, pp. 231- 235. G. ... "Statistical potenetials and scoring functions applied to protein-ligand binding." H Gohlke, G Klebe.
2. Current Opinion in Chemical Biology, Volume5, issue4,1 august 2001, p. 375 - 382. " High-throughput docking for lead generation" R Abagyan, M Totrov. 
3. Il Farmaco, vol 57, issue3, March 2002, p. 243 - 251. "Identification and mapping of small-molecule binding sites in proteins: computational tools for structure-based drug design" C Sotriffer and G Klebe.

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Hallo everybody,
                          could somebody of you suggest me good review-papers on scoring and
scoring functions? I would like to find out which are the most used
procedures to score docking results.
Thank you in advace
Best regards
mike

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CH-4056 Basel
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Hi all,

did anyone tried to generate trajectories during a simulated annealing 
run with AutoDock?
I have problems to generate trajectory coordinates for every cycle of a run.
For an example I set the following parameters in the docking parameter file:

runs 3 # number of runs
cycles 50 # cycles
accs 300 # steps accepted
rejs 300 # steps rejected
select m # minimum or last

outlev 1 # diagnostic output level
trjfrq 1 # trajectory frequency
trjout test.trj # trajectory file
trjsel E # A=acc only;E=either acc or r

I also tried several values for trjbeg and trjend , but in every case I 
got an output with only the values for the first cycle of every run like 
this:

ntorsions 0
run 1
cycle 1
temp 1000.000000
state 1 R 131808.296875 0.000000 45.497338 64.274652 30.326107 -0.668758 
-0.623915 -0.404342 86.532517
state 2 e 1000.000000 1000.000000 47.229206 62.321471 32.220805 
-0.668758 -0.623915 -0.404342 86.532517
&&&
state 304 R 186972.781250 0.000000 47.336364 65.528870 34.041372 
-0.668758 -0.623915 -0.404342 86.532517

ntorsions 0
run 2
cycle 1
temp 1000.000000
state 1 e 1000.000000 1000.000000 59.229028 58.824385 45.100996 
-0.248347 0.186834 0.950482 240.451190
&&&..
..............

Why isnt it possible to get the coordinates for the states of the other 
49 cycles of every run?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Stephan


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Greetings!

we are getting a bus error when trying to compile Charmm 29 on an SGI.

If you suceeded in such a compilation, could you tell us the trick?

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Dear Mike,

For another good recent review try this:

Halperin I, Ma B, Wolfson H and Nussinov R. "Principles of Docking: An 
Overview of Search Algorithms and a Guide to Scoring Functions", PROTEINS: 
Structure, Function, and Genetics, 2002; 47:409-443

Armin

At 11:19 Þ.Ù 2003/03/03 +0100, you wrote:
>Hallo everybody,
>                           could somebody of you suggest me good 
> review-papers on scoring and scoring functions? I would like to find out 
> which are the most used procedures to score docking results.
>Thank you in advace
>Best regards
>mike

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From: "Carsten Detering" <detering@u.washington.edu>
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Hi Michele,



try these:

B=F6hm, H.-J. (1994). "The development of a simple empirical scoring =
function
to estimate the binding constant for a protein-ligand complex of known
three-dimensional structure." J. Comp. Aid. Mol. Des. 8: 243-256.

B=F6hm, H.-J. and M. Stahl (1999). "Rapid Empirical Scoring Functions in
Virtual Screening Applications." Med. Chem. Res. 9(7/8): 445-462.

Charifson, P. S., J. J. Corkery, et al. (1999). "Consensus Scoring: A =
Method
for Obtaining Improved Hit Rates from Docking Databases of =
Three-Dimensional
Structures into Proteins." J. Med. Chem. 42: 5100-5109.

Eldridge, M. D., C. W. Murray, et al. (1997). "Empirical scoring =
functions:
I. The development of a fast empirical scoring funciton to estimate the
binding affinity of ligands in receptor complexes." J. Comp. Aid. Mol. =
Des.
11: 425-445.

Gohlke, H., M. Hendlich, et al. (2000). "Knowledge-based Scoring =
Function to
Predict Protein-Ligand Interactions." J. Mol. Biol. 295: 337-356.

Gohlke, H. and G. Klebe (2001). "Statistical potentials and scoring
functions applied to protein-ligand binding." Curr. Opin. Struct. Biol. =
11:
231-235.

Grzybowski, B. A., A. V. Ishchenko, et al. (2002). "From knowledge-based
potentials to combinatorial lead design in silico." Acc Chem Res 35(5):
261-9.

Muegge, I. and Y. C. Martin (1999). "A General and Fast Scoring Funciton =
for
Protein-Lignad Interactions: A Simplified Potential Approach." J. Med. =
Chem.
42: 791-804.

Muegge, I., Y. C. Martin, et al. (1999). "Evaluation of PMF scoring in
docking weak ligands to the FK506 binding protein." J Med Chem 42(14):
2498-503.

Muegge, I. and M. Rarey (2001). Small Molecule Docking and Scoring. =
Reviews
in Computational Chemistry. K. B. Lipkowitz and D. B. Boyd. New York,
Wiley-VCH. 17: 1-60.

Tame, J. R. H. (1999). "Scoring functions: A view from the bench." J. =
Com.
Aid. Mol. Des. 13: 99-108.


Oprea, T. I. and G. R. Marshall (1998). "Receptor-based Prediciton of =
Binding Affinities." Persp. Drug Disc. Des. 9/10/11: 35-61.




Hope this helps.
Carsten


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> Hallo everybody,
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> scoring functions? I would like to find out which are the most used
> procedures to score docking results.
> Thank you in advace
> Best regards
> mike
>
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