From chemistry-request@ccl.net Sun May 25 22:43:17 2003
Received: from t12mail.lanl.gov (t12mail.lanl.gov [128.165.22.99])
	by server.ccl.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4Q2hGKY026921
	for <chemistry[at]ccl.net>; Sun, 25 May 2003 22:43:17 -0400
Received: from strontium.lanl.gov (strontium.lanl.gov [128.165.22.138])
	by t12mail.lanl.gov (8.11.1 PATCHED 03/04/03/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h4Q2h9Z07149;
	Sun, 25 May 2003 20:43:09 -0600 (MDT)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 20:44:03 -0600
From: Artem Masunov <amasunov[at]LANL.gov>
Reply-To: Artem.Masunov[at]LANL.gov
To: makowskm[at]chemia.uj.edu.pl
cc: chemistry[at]ccl.net
Subject: CCL: SAC-CI in Gaussian03
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.44.0305252026570.283793-100000[at]strontium.lanl.gov>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Marcin,
 First, SAC ground state is not just the reference determinant, it
includes correlation corrections.
 You must specify the target state, even if you do not do any excited
states. In your case it is
TargetState(SpinState=Singlet,Symmetry=1,Root=0)
 Check your single point output, there is only one symmetry with Root=0
which is your ground state (may not be Symmetry=1, thouth).
 BTW, do not bother reading HF guess, unlike some correlated methods it is
the default reference. Instead, try using LMO=PM, you will probably get a
better total energy with localized reference.

hope this helps,
Artem
________________________________________________________
From:  <makowskm[at]chemia.uj.edu.pl>
Date:  Fri, 16 May 2003 08:59:11 +0200 (CEST)
Subject:  SAC-CI in Gaussian03


Dear CCLers,
I have a problem with using SAC-CI method included in Gaussian03 suite.
I am interested in geometry optimization of the ground state using this
method, but until now all of my tries of preparing an appropriate input
failed. My input looked like this:

%chk=/tmp1/ucmakows/benosnz_sac
#P SAC-CI(SACOnly)/cc-pVDZ opt GFinput IOP(6/7=3) Guess(Read)
Geom=AllCheck

where checkpoint file is from previous RHF optimization

It resulted in:

Must specify TargetState for gradients.
 Error termination via Lnk1e in /usr_ext1/gaussian03/g03/l923.exe at Thu
May 15
16:46:24 2003.
 Job cpu time:  0 days  0 hours 32 minutes  4.5 seconds.
 File lengths (MBytes):  RWF=   7059 Int=      0 D2E=      0 Chk=      8
Scr=   1

> From my previous experiments it looked like that TargetState option is
addressed to excited states not a ground(reference) one.

May anyone give any suggestion what the route section should be?

Thanks in advance,

--
Marcin Makowski
Ph.D. student in Theoretical Chemistry,
Jagellonian University




From chemistry-request@ccl.net Sun May 25 17:36:34 2003
Received: from mx3.trentu.ca (mx3.trentu.ca [192.75.12.4])
	by server.ccl.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h4PLaYbc022274
	for <chemistry$at$ccl.net>; Sun, 25 May 2003 17:36:34 -0400
Received: (qmail 21588 invoked by uid 504); 25 May 2003 21:36:34 -0000
Received: from elewars$at$trentu.ca by mx3.trentu.ca by uid 501 with qmail-scanner-1.14 
 (fsecure: 4.15/4370/2003-05-23/2003-05-23. 2003-05-22/ Clear:. 
 Processed in 1.683073 secs); 25 May 2003 21:36:34 -0000
X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: elewars$at$trentu.ca via mx3.trentu.ca
X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.14 (Clear:. Processed in 1.683073 secs)
Received: from unknown (HELO trentu.ca) (209.42.101.30)
  by mx3.trentu.ca with SMTP; 25 May 2003 21:36:32 -0000
Message-ID: <3ED13822.7574AE3E$at$trentu.ca>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 17:39:46 -0400
From: elewars <elewars$at$trentu.ca>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (WinNT; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Ian Hovell <HOVELL$at$cetem.gov.br>, chemistry$at$ccl.net
Subject: Re: CCL:Connect 2 benzene rings...response
References: <216FE3CA3D4DD611AE2600105AD16BDFD56B39$at$correio.cetem.gov.br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

2003 May 25

Your input geometry may be very unreasonable.
These two inputs worked for two conformations of 1,3-diphenylpropane:

Job A


%Mem=100000000
#  HF/3-21G Opt Freq Maxdisk=15360MB

Input: AM1 C2v geom, from Spartan

 0 1
 1  -1.241010290   0.903776794   1.938881085
 6  -1.249270531   0.000000000   1.271973970
 1  -1.241010290  -0.903776794   1.938881085
 6   0.000000000   0.000000000   0.410572400
 1   0.000000000   0.903409493  -0.253767730
 1   0.000000000  -0.903409493  -0.253767730
 6   1.249270531   0.000000000   1.271973970
 1   1.241010290  -0.903776794   1.938881085
 1   1.241010290   0.903776794   1.938881085
 6  -2.484999158   0.000000000   0.442026205
 6  -4.813611907   0.000000000  -1.114165346
 6  -3.073490496  -1.207864494   0.049087094
 6  -3.073490496   1.207864494   0.049087094
 6  -4.232257155   1.206757827  -0.725491295
 6  -4.232257155  -1.206757827  -0.725491295
 1  -2.617289915  -2.161244012   0.354269820
 1  -2.617289915   2.161244012   0.354269820
 1  -4.688402119   2.160053311  -1.029984345
 1  -4.688402119  -2.160053311  -1.029984345
 1  -5.727851430   0.000000000  -1.724877991
 6   2.484999158   0.000000000   0.442026205
 6   4.813611907   0.000000000  -1.114165346
 6   3.073490496   1.207864494   0.049087094
 6   3.073490496  -1.207864494   0.049087094
 6   4.232257155  -1.206757827  -0.725491295
 6   4.232257155   1.206757827  -0.725491295
 1   2.617289915   2.161244012   0.354269820
 1   2.617289915  -2.161244012   0.354269820
 1   4.688402119  -2.160053311  -1.029984345
 1   4.688402119   2.160053311  -1.029984345
 1   5.727851430   0.000000000  -1.724877991

-------------
Job B

%Mem=100000000
#  HF/3-21G Opt Freq Maxdisk=15360MB

Input: Cs AM1 geom, from Spartan

 0 1
 1  -2.486823707   0.901065715  -1.592388051
 6  -1.856616446   0.000000000  -1.357759066
 1  -2.486823707  -0.901065715  -1.592388051
 6  -1.539688848   0.000000000   0.130012492
 1  -2.011278002  -0.900970675   0.605478714
 1  -2.011278002   0.900970675   0.605478714
 6  -0.057517836   0.000000000   0.449089342
 1   0.422452318   0.903581634  -0.015640355
 1   0.422452318  -0.903581634  -0.015640355
 6  -0.670483028   0.000000000  -2.256900799
 6   1.522675490   0.000000000  -4.001744955
 6  -0.116261192  -1.207604139  -2.699467663
 6  -0.116261192   1.207604139  -2.699467663
 6   0.974963589   1.206535361  -3.566549049
 6   0.974963589  -1.206535361  -3.566549049
 1  -0.546790656  -2.161506960  -2.360356542
 1  -0.546790656   2.161506960  -2.360356542
 1   1.403344754   2.159970019  -3.908715479
 1   1.403344754  -2.159970019  -3.908715479
 1   2.382581871   0.000000000  -4.686806439
 6   0.181316043   0.000000000   1.918642975
 6   0.639375729   0.000000000   4.681834186
 6   0.297794198  -1.207655734   2.616877104
 6   0.297794198   1.207655734   2.616877104
 6   0.525504882   1.206703321   3.991842624
 6   0.525504882  -1.206703321   3.991842624
 1   0.210133594  -2.160893009   2.074828720
 1   0.210133594   2.160893009   2.074828720
 1   0.616375950   2.159940014   4.532720469
 1   0.616375950  -2.159940014   4.532720469
 1   0.819525572   0.000000000   5.766371229

=========
With G98W on a Pentium 4 with Windows NT and 1 GB of RAM job A took 5.0 min for
opt and 22.3 min
for freqs;
job B took 10.4 min for opt and 31.9 min for freqs.
The results were: A, E = -574.14522, no imag. freqs; B, E = -574.13710, one imag
freq for rotation
about the central C-C.

E. Lewars
==========

Ian Hovell wrote:

> Dear CCLers,
> If you connect two aromatic rings with a short hydrocarbon chain (3 carbons)
> and put it to optimise using HF/3-21g in gaussian98 it does not finish.
> There must be a simple explaination but I can't see it at the moment.
> Any ideas?
> Ian Hovell - Ph.D.
> NUCLEO DE MODELAGEM MOLECULAR-NMM
> Centro de Tecnologia Mineral - CETEM
> Ministerio da Cijncia e da Tecnologia- MCT
> Avenida Ipj, No 900 - Cidade Universitaria
> Ilha do Fundco Rio de Janeiro RJ Brasil
> CEP 21941-590
> tel 00 55 (xx) 3865 - 7216
> Fax 00 55 (xx) 22602837 ou 2290-4286
> e-mail hovell$at$cetem.gov.br
>
> -= This is automatically added to each message by mailing script =-
> To send e-mail to subscribers of CCL put the string CCL: on your Subject: line
> and send your message to:  CHEMISTRY$at$ccl.net
>
> Send your subscription/unsubscription requests to: CHEMISTRY-REQUEST$at$ccl.net
> HOME Page: http://www.ccl.net   | Jobs Page: http://www.ccl.net/jobs
>
> If your mail is bouncing from CCL.NET domain send it to the maintainer:
> Jan Labanowski,  jkl$at$ccl.net (read about it on CCL Home Page)
> -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+



From chemistry-request@ccl.net Sun May 25 21:49:16 2003
Received: from t12mail.lanl.gov (t12mail.lanl.gov [128.165.22.99])
	by server.ccl.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4Q1nFbc025471
	for <chemistry$at$ccl.net>; Sun, 25 May 2003 21:49:15 -0400
Received: from strontium.lanl.gov (strontium.lanl.gov [128.165.22.138])
	by t12mail.lanl.gov (8.11.1 PATCHED 03/04/03/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h4Q1n7Z07074;
	Sun, 25 May 2003 19:49:08 -0600 (MDT)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 19:50:02 -0600
From: Artem Masunov <amasunov$at$LANL.gov>
Reply-To: Artem.Masunov$at$LANL.gov
To: chemistry$at$ccl.net
cc: jorge$at$bilbo.edu.uy
Subject: RE: PCM cavity problems
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.44.0305251942230.283793-100000$at$strontium.lanl.gov>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Jorge,
 Explicit water molecules in your system are probably too far from the
solute to form a countinuous cavity by tesseration methods. Try IPCM
instead of PCM, isodensity surface does not usually have this problem.

Artem
________________________________________________________
From:  "Jorge S. Gancheff" <jorge$at$bilbo.edu.uy>
Date:  Thu, 22 May 2003 13:53:28 -0300
Subject:  PCM cavity problems

Hello,

I=B4m working with some Re(V) complexes using DFT in aqueous solution =
(Gaussian 98, Rev. A11). I=B4m using the PCM method to simulate the =
presence of the solvent. Although I have using this method succesfully, =
when the system include explicit water molecules, in some cases, the =
calculation aborted giving the following message:

Cycle   1  Pass 1  IDiag 1:
  TESSERA: too many vertices in a tessera
 Error termination via Lnk1e in =
/usr/local/fbscapp/g98_A.11.3/g98/l502.exe.
 Job cpu time:  0 days  1 hours  3 minutes 56.9 seconds.
 File lengths (MBytes):  RWF=3D   94 Int=3D    0 D2E=3D    0 Chk=3D    2 =
Scr=3D    1


The problem seems to be independent of the cavity geometry.
=20
I`m using several cavity: from PENTAKISDODECAHEDRA (with  60 initial =
tesserae, by default) to TETRAHEDRA (with 4 initial tesserae).=20
=20
Can anybody help me?

Sincerely,
=20
Jorge=20
=20
M.Sc. Jorge S. Gancheff
jorge$at$bilbo.edu.uy





From chemistry-request@ccl.net Sat May 24 10:21:17 2003
Received: from mail.uvigo.es (mail.uvigo.es [193.146.32.91])
	by server.ccl.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4OEKabc009398
	for <chemistry$at$ccl.net>; Sat, 24 May 2003 10:21:06 -0400
Received: from mail.uvigo.es (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by mail.uvigo.es (8.12.9/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h4OEKZ4m030635
	for <chemistry$at$ccl.net>; Sat, 24 May 2003 16:20:35 +0200
Received: from correo.uvigo.es (correo.uvigo.es [193.146.32.68])
	by mail.uvigo.es (8.12.9/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h4OEKYZm030625
	(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT)
	for <chemistry$at$ccl.net>; Sat, 24 May 2003 16:20:35 +0200
Received: from correo (correo [193.146.32.68])
	by correo.uvigo.es (8.12.9/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4OEKXPs003503;
	Sat, 24 May 2003 16:20:34 +0200
Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 16:20:33 +0200 (CEST)
From: Carlos Silva Lopez <csilval$at$uvigo.es>
X-X-Sender:  <csilval@correo>
To: Tapas Kar <tapaskar$at$CC.USU.EDU>
cc: CCL <chemistry$at$ccl.net>
Subject: Re: CCL:MNDO/PM3/AM1 parameters for Transition metals 
In-Reply-To: <ONEEJEABKCBEEFKOLPKBIEBECJAA.tapaskar$at$cc.usu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0305241619440.30843-100000@correo>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by server.ccl.net id h4OELlbc009416

Hello
Spartan, from wavefunction inc. has developed a PM3 method including
transition metals.
Hope it helps

_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-

   Carlos Silva Lspez
 Dept. Qummica Organica
  Universidade de Vigo
  Phone:0034 986812226
-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_





