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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Computational Chemistry List 
> [mailto:chemistry-request~at~ccl.net] On Behalf Of Jie Zheng
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:05 PM
> To: chemistry~at~ccl.net
> Subject: CCL:basic questions in MD
> 
> 
> Hi, CCLer:
>   I have a few basic questions for molecular dynamics.
>   1) why the system has to be neutral in molecular dynamics? From the
> numerial point of views, it seems that to be neutral or not does not
> affect the numerial algorithm. We still can get results. I 
> know there must
> have some physical meaning behind this, anybody can give a answer?

If the cell does not have a neutral change, then when you replicate it
using periodic boundary conditions, the total charge becomes infinity.
This does not make physical sense.

> 
>   2) why the cutoff distance can not larger than the 
> half-size of box? If
> we use the Ewald sum method to calculate nonbonded interactions, the
> system and its images have been extend to infinite. If we use 
> the cutoff
> method, the system is confined to the finite size by using periodic
> boundary conditon. My question is that if we extend our 
> simulation system
> to infinite as the Ewald sum does, the half-box cutoff is not 
> required for
> the simluation systems.

If the cutoff is greater than the half-size of the box, you will get
self-interaction errors.  Imagine a particle at the center of a cube.
Embed a sphere with a radius half the edge of the cube.  When you
replicate the cell, if the radius of the sphere is greater than this
size, it will interact with itself.

Joseph Han
Department of Chemical Engineering
Stanford University
650-723-0420
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Dear CCLers,

I am calculating thermochemical properties (BDE, deltaH formation etc.),
using G98W/G03 frequency calculations, by extracting the relevant data from
the generated outputs and pasting into excel spreadsheets. I am estimating
that I will have around 200 or more out files to exam. Does any one know of
any ready made spreadsheet containing macros that would automate this rather
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TIA
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Jay:

1)  If you don't use particle Ewald mesh method, then it doesn't have
to be neutral.

2)  Read the amber manual.  There is a discussion of why the cutoff
distance is set the way it is.  

Pete


>>> Jie Zheng <jzheng73|at|u.washington.edu> 2/19/2004 6:04:32 PM >>>
Hi, CCLer:
  I have a few basic questions for molecular dynamics.
  1) why the system has to be neutral in molecular dynamics? From the
numerial point of views, it seems that to be neutral or not does not
affect the numerial algorithm. We still can get results. I know there
must
have some physical meaning behind this, anybody can give a answer?

  2) why the cutoff distance can not larger than the half-size of box?
If
we use the Ewald sum method to calculate nonbonded interactions, the
system and its images have been extend to infinite. If we use the
cutoff
method, the system is confined to the finite size by using periodic
boundary conditon. My question is that if we extend our simulation
system
to infinite as the Ewald sum does, the half-box cutoff is not required
for
the simluation systems.

   I will appreciate for your clarification.

   Jay



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On 20.02.2004, at 00:04, Jie Zheng wrote:

>   1) why the system has to be neutral in molecular dynamics? From the
> numerial point of views, it seems that to be neutral or not does not
> affect the numerial algorithm. We still can get results. I know there  
> must
> have some physical meaning behind this, anybody can give a answer?

When you use periodic boundary conditions, you are effectively  
simulating an infinite system. With a non-zero total charge, you then  
get an infinite total charge and an infinite potential energy. Such a  
system would not be stable under real-life conditions (i.e. without the  
artifact of periodic boundary conditions). In fact, if you simulate  
such a system at constant pressure, i.e. with a variable box size, you  
will see the volume go up systematically.

>   2) why the cutoff distance can not larger than the half-size of box?  
> If
> we use the Ewald sum method to calculate nonbonded interactions, the
> system and its images have been extend to infinite. If we use the  
> cutoff
> method, the system is confined to the finite size by using periodic
> boundary conditon. My question is that if we extend our simulation  
> system
> to infinite as the Ewald sum does, the half-box cutoff is not required  
> for
> the simluation systems.
>
What you want to do in a cutoff method is to sum over all pairs of  
atoms whose distance is below the cutoff. There is indeed no physical  
reason not to have a cutoff beyond half the box size, but if you do so,  
then for consistency you have to count in some atom pairs twice,  
because both the original atom and some of its images may be within the  
cutoff distance of a given other atom. The resulting algorithm becomes  
more complicated, which is why most implementations limit themselves to  
the simple case and impose the half-box-size limit on the cutoff.
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Dear all,

I am going to do some protein-DNA docking, but have no idea of what 
kind of software is good for this kind of system. So I would like to 
ask the experts here if there is any good docking software I could 
download free (for academic use).

Thanks so much!


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Hi all,
I'm looking for a computational routine (program, script, etc) that can
assign partial atomic carges.
This routine must be called by command line
and must read sdf (multiple is better) files, or pdb files.


Thank you all


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I am pleased to announce the availablity of version 0.3.0 for the
Adaptive Poisson-Boltzmann Solver (APBS) at:
                                                                                
  http://agave.wustl.edu/apbs/
                                                                                
This version of the software offers a number of improvements and added
features which are summarized in the ChangeLog (see web site).  Major
highlights include:
                                                                                
  * A completely revised version of the documentation with links to
    APBS interfaces with several popular visualization packages
  * New scripts to easily parameterize PDB files and automatically
    generate APBS input scripts
  * Simpler input file syntax (backwards-compatible)
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Hi all,
I'm looking for a computational routine (program, script, etc) that can
assign partial atomic carges.
This routine must be called by command line
and must read sdf (multiple is better) files, or pdb files.


Thank you all


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Dear CCL's:
I am trying to do QM/MM calculations for Iron-Sulfur proteins,=20

May I know where I can I get MM parameters for Fe-S systems.

Note: MM using Amber.=20

Thanks in Advance,

Regards,
Mahesh

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear CCL's:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am trying to do QM/MM calculations =
for=20
Iron-Sulfur proteins, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>May I know where I can I get&nbsp;MM =
parameters for=20
Fe-S systems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Note: MM using Amber. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks in Advance,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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I use Jaguar to do the transiton state optimization. After it ran for few "move" this error has aborted the program. Please let me know how to fix it ( I use the default convergence criteria and calculation)
 
etot  34  N  Y  2  U    -861.39759988837 -8.8E-04  4.9E-04  1.0E-02
etot  35  Y  Y  6  M    -861.39768273142  8.3E-05  1.4E-03  1.1E-02
etot  36  N  Y  2  U    -861.39744731698 -2.4E-04  1.3E-03  9.7E-03
etot  37  Y  Y  6  M    -861.39731229606 -1.4E-04  3.9E-03  8.6E-03
etot  38  N  Y  2  U    -861.39671459558 -6.0E-04  4.0E+00  5.5E-03
etot  39  Y  Y  6  M    -952.94965913702  9.2E+01  1.3E+00  2.4E+01

  ERROR: fatal error -- debug information follows
etot  40  N  N  2  U    -905.48656491620 -4.7E+01  1.3E+00  2.4E+01
  aborting scf due to large energy change

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<DIV>I use Jaguar to do the transiton state optimization. After it ran for few "move" this error has aborted the program. Please let me know how to fix it ( I use the default convergence criteria and calculation)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>etot&nbsp; 34&nbsp; N&nbsp; Y&nbsp; 2&nbsp; U&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -861.39759988837 -8.8E-04&nbsp; 4.9E-04&nbsp; 1.0E-02<BR>etot&nbsp; 35&nbsp; Y&nbsp; Y&nbsp; 6&nbsp; M&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -861.39768273142&nbsp; 8.3E-05&nbsp; 1.4E-03&nbsp; 1.1E-02<BR>etot&nbsp; 36&nbsp; N&nbsp; Y&nbsp; 2&nbsp; U&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -861.39744731698 -2.4E-04&nbsp; 1.3E-03&nbsp; 9.7E-03<BR>etot&nbsp; 37&nbsp; Y&nbsp; Y&nbsp; 6&nbsp; M&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -861.39731229606 -1.4E-04&nbsp; 3.9E-03&nbsp; 8.6E-03<BR>etot&nbsp; 38&nbsp; N&nbsp; Y&nbsp; 2&nbsp; U&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -861.39671459558 -6.0E-04&nbsp; 4.0E+00&nbsp; 5.5E-03<BR>etot&nbsp; 39&nbsp; Y&nbsp; Y&nbsp; 6&nbsp; M&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -952.94965913702&nbsp; 9.2E+01&nbsp; 1.3E+00&nbsp; 2.4E+01</DIV>
<DIV><BR>&nbsp; ERROR: fatal error -- debug information follows</DIV>
<DIV>etot&nbsp; 40&nbsp; N&nbsp; N&nbsp; 2&nbsp; U&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -905.48656491620 -4.7E+01&nbsp; 1.3E+00&nbsp; 2.4E+01<BR>&nbsp; aborting scf due to large energy change<BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks </DIV>
<DIV>D.</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>D. Wanapun</DIV>
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