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Dear all:

I got GetVDW error when I tried to do 'pop=mk' calculation by g03. I 
don't know how to resovle this problem and hope anyone who knows it can 
help me. Thanks in advance!

Here is the input file.
--------------
# HF/6-31G* SCF=tight Test Pop=MK iop(6/33=2) iop(6/42=6) opt
 

Title Card Required
 

2 1
Fe  0.0 0.0 0.0
==============

The error msg are as below:
--------------
Atom Element Radius
     1    26    0.00
  GetVDW:  no radius for atom   1 atomic number  26.
  Error termination via Lnk1e in /usr/local/g03/l602.exe at Mon Jun  7 
09:39:17 2004.
==============

Any help would be very appreciated!

Regards!

Liu



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On 04.06.2004, at 13:46, jle$at$theworld.com wrote:

> Folks, I would appreciate pointers to any article/book discussing
> the pros and cons of programming in Java.  Either with regards to
> other interpreted languages such as Python/Perl, or with regards
> to compiled languages such as C/C++.  Truly comparative articles
>
I'd put Java into the "compiled languages" category, as native code  
compilers are available, and JIT byte code compilation is getting close  
to native in speed as well, though not necessarily for numeric  
applications (probable just because the JIT compilers are not made for  
that). Perhaps the best summary description of Java is "C++ cleaned  
up". The only aspect in which Java is quiet different from C and C++ is  
memory management, which is fully automatic (with garbage collection)  
in Java.

The Python Web site (www.python.org) has pointers to articles that  
compare Python to other languages, including Java and Perl.

Beyond all the more or less objective comparisons, there is one aspect  
that is rarely mentioned: you should pick a language that suits your  
way of working and thinking. Just like some people prefer geometry and  
others algebra for attacking the same problem, some programmers get  
better results with one langugae and others with another one. I am  
still waiting for the first personality tests that include programming  
preferences.
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  Hi Mark -

Good question, to which my answer would be yes, but only up to a point.
Most of Bader et al's ideas can be applied to any electron distribution,
whether at a stationary point or not. Thus, it is possible to define a
basin which obeys the zero-flux condition, and associated interatomic
surfaces at any point on the PES. Having done this, one can generate the
usual atomic charges, multipoles etc. Critical points are similar, and
are generally conserved at small changes away from equilbrium.

There are two main caveats to this statement. Firstly, calculation of
an atomic energy in Bader's scheme is only valid at a stationary point on
the PES, since it assumes there are no (Hellman-Feynman) forces on nuclei.
Clearly, this is fine for a true TS or other saddle point.

Second, the identification of an atomic interaction line with associated
(3,-1) critical point with a bond is only strictly valid at equilibrium.
So at a TS, the presence of a (3,-1) cp is not enough to state that two
atoms are bonded, but only that they're interacting.

An example of applying AIM to transition states is our old paper:
J. Phys. Chem., 1996, 100, 13455. Please note that I'm not claiming this
to be the first or the best, just the one for which I have the reference
to hand .

Hope this helps,

Jamie

----------------------------------------------------------
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> Can AIM be used to evaluate bonding in a transition state structure?
> After reading Bader's web site, he often refers to equilibrium
> structures.  Yet it seems that there is no apparent prohibition against
> employing AIM to studying transition states.  Since AIM is based on a
> physical observable and a TS is not a physical observable is it still
> valid to apply AIM analysis to a transition state?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
> ************************************************
> Dr. Mark A. Zottola
> Army Research Laboratory
> Aberdeen Proving Grounds
> PB #134 939-I Beards Hill Road
> Aberdeen, MD 21001
> Voice: 410 278 7250  FAX: 410 297 9521
> Email:  mzottola<<at>>arl.army.mil
>
>
>

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Karin Gutkowski wrote:

> I would like to ask you for help for the following issue:
> 
> I need to use Lenanrd jones molecular parameters (sigma and e/k) in 
> order to adjust my program to the Henry constant, for systems with 
> the following molecules:
> methane
> carbon dioxide
> CO
> N2
> O2
> CH3OH
> C2H5OH
> 
> I found already some values for the LJ parameters, but they vary a 
> lot depending on the reference. So I would like to have the whole 
> information from only one source.

Unfortunately, LJ params are always a property of the atom *pair* under
consideration, which in turn is influenced by the molecules in your
system. In practice, however, you may get away with fewer parameters,
and/or use combination rules. Try any of the biomolecular forcefields
(Gromos, OPLS, Charmm, Amber), they will have at least many molecules
and building blocks similar to those you list.
The Gromos and OPLS ff's are implemented in Gromacs, which I use a lot
so I know the website: www.gromacs.org (and it's free). Beware that
some ff's will list parameters in c6/c12 in stead of sigma/epsilon.


-- 
Groetjes,

Anton
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Dear ccl,

I am looking for a program able to compute a reaction path, or at least 
geometry optimizations, using spin corrected single-determinant 
wavefunction (HF, MP, CC ...), energies and gradients when large spin 
contamination occurs. I am aware of the spin projection techniques, a 
priori or a posteriori, the later being implemented e.g. in gaussian but 
I don't believe gradients are coded in (I think a population analysis 
can be done using a spin projected wfn).
Because the systems I want to study are of medium size to large size, I 
cannot really consider multi-reference methods (unfortunately).
By the way, Chen and Schlegel published in 96 that projected dft is even 
worse than unrestricted dft. Is there any alternative technique for 
using dft when large spin contamination occurs (yes, even at the dft 
level) ? Or should I, in any case, use a non hybrid functional ?

Best regards,

-- 
  Dr. Nicolas Ferre'
  Laboratoire de Chimie Theorique et de Modelisation Moleculaire
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Dear colleagues,

Recently I started to analyze the effect of different electron-withdrawing/electro-donating groups on the triplet energy of the phosphorescent metal-organic compounds. I'm doing this at the DFT level (there is quite good correlation with the available experimental data). Now I'm trying to rationalize my results. As far as I noticed, experimental chemists often utilize the concept of Hammett constant to explain the effect of the substituents on the spectral properties of the compounds of interest. 

Could you suggest the good literature (review?) on the subject? The cases where the values of Hammett constants do not correlate well with the experimental spectral data would be of particular interest.

Best regards,
Igor Avilov.



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We have defined hydrophobic parameters for 20 amino acids by using
experimentally determined octanol/water partition coefficients of
peptides by Dr. Akamatsu and co-workers.  Our parameters have been shown
to work well in analyzing biological activities of peptides and protein
stabilities and characterizing ligand binding sites of proteins.
Reprints are available on request. 

Sotomatsu-Niwa, Tomoko; Ogino, Akio, Evaluation of the hydrophobic
parameters of the amino acid side chains of peptides and their
application in QSAR and conformational studies, 
THEOCHEM (1997), 392, 43-54.

Niwa, Sotomatsu Tomoko; Ogino, Akio, Multiple regression analysis of the
beta-sheet propensity of amino acids, THEOCHEM (1997), 419, 155-160.

Regards, Tomoko

At 11:46 AM 5/19/2004 -0400, Baoqiang Cao wrote:
>Dear CCL members,
>
>I need the experimental results of the hydrophobicities for 20 amino 
>acids, could you please show me how I can get them? Any tips will be 
>welcome!
>
>Best,
>  Cao
>

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Discovery Research Lab. Nippon Shinyaku Co., Ltd.
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Dear Favia:

Thank you very much for your response! I completely agree with that. But 
I don't know how to assign vdw radius to Fe. Could you please give me an 
example or a reference explaining it? Thanks a lot!

Best!

Liu

Angelo Favia wrote:

>I believe that you must specify the  Fe radius at the end of the input file
>in gaussian....
>that's it.
>
>bye
>
>angy
>
>  
>
>>Dear all:
>>
>>I got GetVDW error when I tried to do 'pop=mk' calculation by g03. I
>>don't know how to resovle this problem and hope anyone who knows it can
>>help me. Thanks in advance!
>>
>>Here is the input file.
>>--------------
>># HF/6-31G* SCF=tight Test Pop=MK iop(6/33=2) iop(6/42=6) opt
>>
>>
>>Title Card Required
>>
>>
>>2 1
>>Fe  0.0 0.0 0.0
>>==============
>>
>>The error msg are as below:
>>--------------
>>Atom Element Radius
>>     1    26    0.00
>>  GetVDW:  no radius for atom   1 atomic number  26.
>>  Error termination via Lnk1e in /usr/local/g03/l602.exe at Mon Jun  7
>>09:39:17 2004.
>>==============
>>
>>Any help would be very appreciated!
>>
>>Regards!
>>
>>Liu
>>
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On Saturday 05 June 2004 14:20, hinsen<<at>>cnrs-orleans.fr wrote:
> On 04.06.2004, at 13:46, jle<<at>>theworld.com wrote:
> Beyond all the more or less objective comparisons, there is one aspect
> that is rarely mentioned: you should pick a language that suits your
> way of working and thinking. Just like some people prefer geometry and
> others algebra for attacking the same problem, some programmers get
> better results with one langugae and others with another one. 

That's indeed an important point... I've spent too many hours finding bugs in 
C/C++ code dealing with memory issues, which sometimes where even caused by 
compiler differences... While this is likely no problem when working a lot in 
C++, in Java I never had such problems...

Egon

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Hi all,

when I try to calculate MP2/aug-cc-pvdz frequencies of thymine (15
atoms, 9 heavy atoms, 6 hydrogens, 281 basis functions) at 32-bit
machine the job finishes soon after the beginnig of the frequency calculation 
with this error message:

 Error termination in NtrErr:
 NtrErr Called from FileIO.

and a few lines above is the following message:

 End of Minotr Frequency-dependent properties file   721 does not exist.
 MDV=   104857600.
 Form MO integral derivatives with frozen-active canonical formalism.
 Discarding MO integrals.
 Reordered first order wavefunction length = 133955712
 Warning!  MaxDisk=  1572864000 but minimum for overlay 11=  1693729261..
 WUsed=    115192717  WInt=       1512480  WEnd= 1093267456
 Dk804=    503348736. Dk1111=           0. Dk1112= 1577024064.
 MaxDsk=  1572864000  LAFull=   133955712  DskLim= 1572864000.
 NUsed= -620931003. 2511644491. 1757983297. 1602696451. 1332289343. 1152017937.
 In DefCFB: NBatch=  1, ICI= 33, ICA=248, LFMax=    23
 Large arrays: LIAPS= 0, LIARS=   496744248 words.
 Illegal file or unit passed to FileIO.
 FileIO: IOper=1 IFilNo(1)=0 Len=899300 IPos=0  Q=1347875000
				     
I am using rwf directive to use more large scratch files:
 %rwf=s1/a,2000MB,s1/b,2000MB,s1/c,2000MB,s1/d,2000MB,s1/e,2000MB,s1/f,2000MB,s1/g,-
				     
I played with MaxDisk directive, but without success. I am sure it has
something to do with the disk limits, I managed to run the same job on
64-bit machine (which is unfortunately not available to me anymore)
without any problems.
 
Did somebody encounter this problem on 32-bit architecture as well? Is
it possible to run such a frequency calculation without crashing and how
to do that?

Thanks in advance
  Dan


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Dear CCLers'
 I need a program that calculate automatically the angles of the lateral chain of a protein, given an especific
aminoacid or something like that, i know a lot of softwares in which those angles can be obtained clicking on the four atoms
that form the torsion angle but i don't know any that automatically do that.
I will apreciate any help
 Best
 
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