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Hello!

Apart from other programs, we work with Gaussian'03 using GaussView as GUI. I tried to calculate the 
geometry of given molecule (aminoethanol) in explicit solvent (25 water molecules) placed randomly around the solute. The whole cluster should, of course, not be in vaccuum, so I intended to use periodic boundary conditions. However, it seems that this does not work for amorphous materials. Furthermore, when using PBC, it seems that one can not use ONIOM simultaneously. 

Do anyone have experience or suggestions, how this problem can be accomplished? Is this the right software to do this, anyway? I heard that DMol3 by Accelrys can do such miracles. In case it does:
When energetics of the reaction (aminoethanol and water, base and acid in explicit solvent) should be found out, can one really rely on the energies given in output. In case of not using PBC the geometry of the whole constallation will change significantly, not only in the reaction centre. In case of PBC, what is the real energy that holds for one single cell?

Thank you for halping me out of trouble!
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Mitja

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Dear CCLers,
I have been trying to compile the autotors portion of AutoDock with the command 
gcc -O3 -o autotors autotors.c as instructed in the manual for Linux compilation,
and kept getting these errors:

autotors.c: In function `main':
autotors.c:2261: warning: return type of `main' is not `int'
/tmp/ccQE5T7j.o: In function `main':
/tmp/ccQE5T7j.o(.text+0xa03a): undefined reference to `cos'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

What does it mean? And how do I go about rectifying this?

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Hi Errol,

   Sorry, I made a mistake. One structure is HIS/CYS3-/ZN2+ and the
other one is HIS/CYS3/ZN2+. The only difference is the three hydrogen
which are dissociated from thiol groups. HIS contains imidazole group.
The energy with CYS3- is -3517.614525 au and with CYS3 is -3516.510491 au.
The energy is the sum of electronic and thermal Enthalpies. They have
the same basis set. I will ask the professor about the triplet issue.

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2004 June 29

hello,

If by energy you mean just the total energy given at the end of a 
calculation(this is electronic energy plus internuclear repilsion), like 
-293.173976 or whatever, then generally the bigger the molecule the more 
negative this is (experiment with a few small molecules; bigger basis 
sets also give more negative energies). So Cys3 etc should have a more 
negative (lower, bigger only if you ignore the minus sign)  energy than 
Cys etc. I can't really answer the spin question since I don't know 
exactly what rour structure looks like; I suggest you discuss it with 
one of the professors. But I don't think it should be triplet.

Good luck.

EL
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Qiang Lu wrote:

>Hi Errol,
>
>   I did a optimization on both structure. The final results show that
>CYS3-/ZN2+ has higher energy than CYS/ZN2+. That seems not reasonable.
>I also tried CYS2-/CYS/ZN2+ and CYS-/CYS2/ZN2+, but their final structure
>are no longer as good a tetrahedral structure as that in the crystal
>structure. So I guess it might be due to the spin. There is a fourth
>ligand HIS binds to ZN2+. Triplet spin caused by the Nitrogen in the
>imidozole group could give a different result from that of singlet spin.
>I find this in the reference J. Phys. Chem. B, vol. 103, No. 41, 1999.
>But I don't know how to determine when it should be triplet and when it
>should be singlet in the QM calculation other than using final energy.
>Or in another way, I don't know how the whole structure become triplet state.
>
>  
>

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Dear CCLers, 

I am trying to assign torsions to my peptide using 
this command

autotors -h -a -b -A [bnd file] [pdbq file] [output]

and keep getting a segmentation fault error. 

I am running autodock on redhat 7.3 and have already
set the stack size to be unlimited. What can be the 
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Zoli,

If you are interested in excited state charges, you can get ZINDO excited
state charges with ArgusLab 4.0.

It's free for single-user academics faculty and students.

http://www.arguslab.com

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 I'm trying to get atomic charges for excited states with MOPAC v6 - but the
charges output always seem to be that of the ground state (and the ones when
MULLIKEN keyword is given look total garbage, not even summing up to any
integer value)! Is there any way to get them correctly with this program?

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Dear CCLers,
I have been trying to compile the autotors portion of AutoDock with the command 
gcc -O3 -o autotors autotors.c as instructed in the manual for Linux compilation,
and kept getting these errors:

autotors.c: In function `main':
autotors.c:2261: warning: return type of `main' is not `int'
/tmp/ccQE5T7j.o: In function `main':
/tmp/ccQE5T7j.o(.text+0xa03a): undefined reference to `cos'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

What does it mean? 

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On 29 Jun 2004 juraina<<at>>um.edu.my wrote:
> autotors.c: In function `main':
> autotors.c:2261: warning: return type of `main' is not `int'

This is only a warning (declare main as int to eliminate).

> /tmp/ccQE5T7j.o(.text+0xa03a): undefined reference to `cos'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Add the math library:

gcc -O3 -o autotors autotors.c -lm 

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dear sir:
            firstly,thank for your help. the calculation in PCM model perhaps exceed the ability of my computer.I try the opt calculation in SCI-PCM 
model in the same method and basis in PCM model.however it failed. the error information is following:
>WARNING!  Serious error in surface integrals.
>Nuclear flux =    214.99 Qnuc =   218.00 Error in int =     0.00
>It is probable that some of the solute is outside the cavity and/or
>parts of the cavity surface cannot be reached from the origin.
>Try more integration points or a different set of integration origins.

>
>Surface Problems in SciFoc
>Error termination via Lnk1e in e:\g03w\l502.exe at Tue Jun 29 16:41:38
2004.
>Job cpu time:  0 days  0 hours  3 minutes 30.0 seconds.
>File lengths (MBytes):  RWF=     46 Int=      0 D2E=      0 Chk=     1
Scr=
>     1
>
  according the clue on the error infromation, i used "Integral(Grid=UltraFine)"key word to increase integration points , but it failed again.perhaps another clue on the error infromation:different set of integration origins  can help us to solve the question. however the question is how to decide different set of integration origins ? may you give me some consuction?  thank for your generous help,havea nice time!
>
>
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<DIV>dear sir:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;firstly,thank for your help. the calculation in PCM model perhaps exceed the ability of my computer.I try the opt calculation in SCI-PCM <BR>model in the same method and basis in PCM model.however it failed. the error information is following:<BR>&gt;WARNING!&nbsp; Serious error in surface integrals.<BR>&gt;Nuclear flux =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 214.99 Qnuc =&nbsp;&nbsp; 218.00 Error in int =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.00<BR>&gt;It is probable that some of the solute is outside the cavity and/or<BR>&gt;parts of the cavity surface cannot be reached from the origin.<BR>&gt;Try more integration points or a different set of integration origins.<BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Surface Problems in SciFoc<BR>&gt;Error termination via Lnk1e in e:\g03w\l502.exe at Tue Jun 29 16:41:38<BR>2004.<BR>&gt;Job cpu time:&nbsp; 0 days&nbsp; 0 hours&nbsp; 3 minutes 30.0 seconds.<BR>&gt;File lengths (MBytes):&nbsp; RWF=&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 46
 Int=&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 D2E=&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 Chk=&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<BR>Scr=<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<BR>&gt;<BR>&nbsp; according the clue on the error infromation, i used "Integral(Grid=UltraFine)"key word to increase integration points , but it failed again.perhaps another clue on the error infromation:different set of integration origins&nbsp; can help us to solve the question. however the question is how to decide different set of integration origins ? may you give me some consuction?&nbsp; thank for your generous help,havea nice time!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; your sincere
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Dear CLLers,

could anyone please tell me what MD packages (free or less than US$300)
can deal with the interaction/docking between a molecule and a mineral
surface (solvation model incorporated)? Can Tinker do the job?

Thanks,
Jerry

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Dear CCLers,



I need to convert protein structure presented as XYZ (Cartesian coordinate
file)

to the PDB file format.

The problem is that many software packages can do the job but not
completely.

In other words, when such software reads an XYZ file (see the fragment
below):



  N       -1.21000       43.30600      -19.48400

  C       -1.45100       43.83100      -20.83200

  C       -1.89300       45.28700      -20.70900

  O       -1.42200       46.16400      -21.43800



it generates the following PDB analog with unknown residual names and
numbers:



ATOM    462  N   UNK A   1      -1.210  43.306 -19.484  1.00  0.00

ATOM    463  C   UNK A   1      -1.451  43.831 -20.832  1.00  0.00

ATOM    464  C   UNK A   1      -1.893  45.287 -20.709  1.00  0.00

ATOM    465  O   UNK A   1      -1.422  46.164 -21.438  1.00  0.00



while the correct pdb file must specify the residual names and numbers:



ATOM    462  N   VAL    32      -1.210  43.306 -19.484  1.00 14.04
N

ATOM    463  CA  VAL    32      -1.451  43.831 -20.832  1.00  6.48
C

ATOM    464  C   VAL    32      -1.893  45.287 -20.709  1.00  8.17
C

ATOM    465  O   VAL    32      -1.422  46.164 -21.438  1.00 10.91
O



I would highly appreciate if somebody can point me to the reliable free
software for Windows.



Kind regards,

Michael





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Dear CCLers,



I need to convert protein structure presented as XYZ (Cartesian coordinate
file)

to the PDB file format.

The problem is that many software packages can do the job but not
completely.

In other words, when such software reads an XYZ file (see the fragment
below):



  N       -1.21000       43.30600      -19.48400

  C       -1.45100       43.83100      -20.83200

  C       -1.89300       45.28700      -20.70900

  O       -1.42200       46.16400      -21.43800



it generates the following PDB analog with unknown residual names and
numbers:



ATOM    462  N   UNK A   1      -1.210  43.306 -19.484  1.00  0.00

ATOM    463  C   UNK A   1      -1.451  43.831 -20.832  1.00  0.00

ATOM    464  C   UNK A   1      -1.893  45.287 -20.709  1.00  0.00

ATOM    465  O   UNK A   1      -1.422  46.164 -21.438  1.00  0.00



while the correct pdb file must specify the residual names and numbers:



ATOM    462  N   VAL    32      -1.210  43.306 -19.484  1.00 14.04
N

ATOM    463  CA  VAL    32      -1.451  43.831 -20.832  1.00  6.48
C

ATOM    464  C   VAL    32      -1.893  45.287 -20.709  1.00  8.17
C

ATOM    465  O   VAL    32      -1.422  46.164 -21.438  1.00 10.91
O



I would highly appreciate if somebody can point me to the reliable free
software for Windows.



Kind regards,

Michael




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Michael wrote:

>Dear CCLers,
>
>
>
>I need to convert protein structure presented as XYZ (Cartesian coordinate
>file)
>
>to the PDB file format.
>
>The problem is that many software packages can do the job but not
>completely.
>
>In other words, when such software reads an XYZ file (see the fragment
>below):
>
>...
>
>I would highly appreciate if somebody can point me to the reliable free
>software for Windows.
>
>  
>
I just wrote a perl script to do this a couple weeks ago... you can 
download a free perl interpreter for Windows from www.perl.com.
http://www.perl.com/download.csp

Here's the script, it's very short:
http://abacavir.pharmacy.umn.edu/~bennette/software/text-to-pdb.txt





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