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hi stefano,

thank you for your hint with gromacs... however it seems that it is 
seriously broken in this respect. see, e.g.
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2004-August/011925.html
i always encounter the same problem - when larger amount of molecules is 
being added to simulation box with protein, genbox starts placing the 
molecules inside the protein structure... it's a pity, since this is 
exactly the functionality i need... :(

if you have any other suggestions, please let me know.

regards,
lubos


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Ross Walker wrote:
> Dear Narasinga,
>>I would like to find out if it is possible to share files 
>>between Windows
>>and Linux partitions on the same system? For example, is 
>>there a way to
>>launch a browser(say, IE) in the Windows partition and have 
>>it run off the
>>Apachee web server running on the Linux partition of that system?

Narasinga, do you mean that Windows and Linux should be *running* 
simultaneously ? If so, you will need some kind of 'virtualization' 
software, e.g. VMware , to let you run the two different operating 
systems simultaneously on the same machine.

By the way, the Apache webserver software is also available for Windows. 
  By storing the webpages on a filesystem readable to both Windows and 
Linux (see below), the webserver could be configured to be functionally 
identical regardless of what operating system you are running.

> Linux can mount windows partitions on standard mount points although the
> support will depend on your kernel version and/or what is compiled in. NTFS
> partitions can be mounted read only, you can also mount them as read write
> but this is dangerous.

Yes, you need to make sure that you have a kernel module installed to 
handle NTFS file systems. Take a look here:

http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/

An alternative route is to use Captive-NTFS 
(http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/)
This relies on Linux finding and reusing the native *Windows* NTFS 
driver files, so this might work well on a Linux-Windows dual-boot 
system. This technique claims to allow full read/write access to NTFS 
partitions, but I haven't personally tested it. I have seen reports that 
Windows XP SP2 breaks Captive-NTFS, but apparently there is a way around 
this (http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/6261).

Of course, if you set up a Windows FAT32 filesystem somewhere on your 
machine, both Linux and Windows will be able to read and write to it.

> 
> For Windows you can use a program called Explore2fs
> http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm which allows you to
> read Ext2 (and I believe Ext3, since it should be backwards compatible with
> Ext2) file systems under windows.

Seconded - very useful program !

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Subject: Re: CCL:addiong ions to simulation box
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On Sat, 2005-03-05 at 10:25 +0100, Mgr. Lubos Vrbka wrote:
> hi stefano,
> 
> thank you for your hint with gromacs... however it seems that it is 
> seriously broken in this respect. see, e.g.
> http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2004-August/011925.html
> i always encounter the same problem - when larger amount of molecules is 
> being added to simulation box with protein, genbox starts placing the 
> molecules inside the protein structure... it's a pity, since this is 
> exactly the functionality i need... :(

The example in the mailing list is quite extreme in the sense that they
try to add 2400 molecules to a 4 x 4 x 4 nm box. I'm not sure how broken
it is. An alternative is to solvate a protein in a mixed solvent (using
genbox) or simply build a box with lots of space between molecules and
then use pressure scaling MD to compress the box.


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hi, Lubos,

> i always encounter the same problem - when larger amount of molecules is 
> being added to simulation box with protein, genbox starts placing the 
> molecules inside the protein structure... 

how you can easily imagine, number of molecules and volume of the box
are essential, because apparently the first parameter drive the
placement of solvent in to the box. I agree with David, the algorithm is
not perfect, of course, so using large box with a lot of mols, it can
fails, but fine tuning parameters leads me to really good results.
I don't yet tryed the pressure gradient, but I think it's an elegant way
to test as soon as possible

Stefano



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Hello Mgr. Lubos Vrbka,

We put many water and lipid molecules surrounding 
PNA+Sensitizer::LipidPrecursor self-assembling system
by using Molden software and later doing PM3 geometry optimization
using G03 or GAMESS packages.

Regards,
Arvydas Tamulis

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Mgr. Lubos Vrbka wrote:

> Hello everybody:
>
> Is anyone aware of software allowing replacing waters in the simulations cell 
> (protein + water box) by small molecules? "Automatic" solution is preferred, 
> since I need to put many molecules to the solution.
>
> Any help is highly appreciated. With best regards,
> Lubos
>
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> Center for Biomolecules and Complex Molecular Systems
> Institute of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry
> Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic
> Prague, Czech Republic
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