From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Sep 1 11:00:00 2008 From: "Kshatresh Dutta Dubey kshatresh%x%gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: problem in dynamics Message-Id: <-37691-080901053447-9141-w0OTmlK8tzb5w6a91DEmag%%server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Kshatresh Dutta Dubey" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32714_25607267.1220258958390" Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 01:49:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Kshatresh Dutta Dubey" [kshatresh/./gmail.com] ------=_Part_32714_25607267.1220258958390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear all, I am using Maestro, Impact to study molecular dynamics of a system..After some steps it is giving error like " fail to update box size". log file is given below.. Total number of atoms = 12382 %IMPACT-I (runmd): Using the Verlet integrator %IMPACT-I (runmd): Translational and rotational motions for the system are removed Step number: 0 Non-bonded count: 2198814 Temp E-tot E-kin E-pot ETCM ERCM Pressure Density 4.50345E+02 2.72356E+16 1.10456E+04 2.72356E+16 1.82883E+03 1.78142E+03 3.65649E+02 3.94448E-01 %IMPACT-I (runmd): Translational and rotational motions for the system are removed; new initial conditions are: Step number: 0 Non-bonded count: 2198814 4.50345E+02 2.72356E+16 1.10456E+04 2.72356E+16 1.82883E+03 1.78142E+03 3.65649E+02 3.94448E-01 nblistsetbox(): mmnblist is not initialized call nblistinit() first. %IMPACT-E (die): At line 39 %IMPACT-E: xyzscale(): Unable to update box size! kindelly help me to overcome this error.. Thanks in advance with regards.... Kshatresh ------=_Part_32714_25607267.1220258958390 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear all,

I am using Maestro, Impact to study molecular dynamics of a system..After some steps it is giving error like " fail to update box size".  log file is given below..


Total number of atoms = 12382
%IMPACT-I (runmd): Using the Verlet integrator
%IMPACT-I (runmd): Translational and rotational motions for the system are removed
Step number: 0 Non-bonded count: 2198814
Temp E-tot E-kin E-pot ETCM ERCM Pressure Density
4.50345E+02 2.72356E+16 1.10456E+04 2.72356E+16 1.82883E+03 1.78142E+03 3.65649E+02 3.94448E-01
%IMPACT-I (runmd): Translational and rotational motions for the system are removed; new initial conditions are:
Step number: 0 Non-bonded count: 2198814
4.50345E+02 2.72356E+16 1.10456E+04 2.72356E+16 1.82883E+03 1.78142E+03 3.65649E+02 3.94448E-01
nblistsetbox(): mmnblist is not initialized call nblistinit() first.
%IMPACT-E (die): At line 39
%IMPACT-E: xyzscale(): Unable to update box size!


kindelly help me to overcome this error..
Thanks in advance
with regards....

Kshatresh

------=_Part_32714_25607267.1220258958390-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Sep 1 14:56:01 2008 From: "Pablo Englebienne pablo.englebienne*mcgill.ca" To: CCL Subject: CCL: problem in dynamics Message-Id: <-37692-080901144318-29160-K0H6fmH09svLzZmAjboa7w{=}server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Pablo Englebienne Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060009090609080305020706" Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:42:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Pablo Englebienne [pablo.englebienne_+_mcgill.ca] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060009090609080305020706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Kshatresh, I've never used Impact for MD, but I can tell that some values seem very high from the beginning: Step number: 0 Non-bonded count: 2198814 Temp E-tot E-kin E-pot ETCM ERCM Pressure Density 4.50345E+02 2.72356E+16 1.10456E+04 2.72356E+16 1.82883E+03 1.78142E+03 3.65649E+02 3.94448E-01 ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ In particular, the E-pot is abnormaly high. Check your initial system for any bad clashes, superpositions, etc. Also, are you trying to run your simulation at 450K? I'm not sure what your system is, but you should try to heat it up slowly at first. Although designed for Amber MD's, I found these tutorials very useful: http://amber.scripps.edu/tutorials/ The first tutorial (TUTORIAL B1: Simulating a small fragment of DNA ) deals with these issues. Cheers! -- Pablo Englebienne, PhD Student, Moitessier research group Department of Chemistry, McGill University 801 Sherbrooke Street West Otto Maass bldg, room 206 H3A 2K6 Montréal, Québec, Canada Tel (514) 398-5501 Fax (514) 398-2382 "Progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." - Robert A. Heinlein Kshatresh Dutta Dubey kshatresh%x%gmail.com wrote: > Dear all, > > I am using Maestro, Impact to study molecular dynamics of a > system..After some steps it is giving error like " fail to update box > size". log file is given below.. > > > Total number of atoms = 12382 > %IMPACT-I (runmd): Using the Verlet integrator > %IMPACT-I (runmd): Translational and rotational motions for the system > are removed > Step number: 0 Non-bonded count: 2198814 > Temp E-tot E-kin E-pot ETCM ERCM Pressure Density > 4.50345E+02 2.72356E+16 1.10456E+04 2.72356E+16 1.82883E+03 > 1.78142E+03 3.65649E+02 3.94448E-01 > %IMPACT-I (runmd): Translational and rotational motions for the system > are removed; new initial conditions are: > Step number: 0 Non-bonded count: 2198814 > 4.50345E+02 2.72356E+16 1.10456E+04 2.72356E+16 1.82883E+03 > 1.78142E+03 3.65649E+02 3.94448E-01 > nblistsetbox(): mmnblist is not initialized call nblistinit() first. > %IMPACT-E (die): At line 39 > %IMPACT-E: xyzscale(): Unable to update box size! > > > kindelly help me to overcome this error.. > Thanks in advance > with regards.... > > Kshatresh > --------------060009090609080305020706 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Kshatresh,

I've never used Impact for MD, but I can tell that some values seem very high from the beginning:

Step number: 0 Non-bonded count: 2198814
Temp        E-tot       E-kin       E-pot       ETCM        ERCM        Pressure    Density
4.50345E+02 2.72356E+16 1.10456E+04 2.72356E+16 1.82883E+03 1.78142E+03 3.65649E+02 3.94448E-01
^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^

In particular, the E-pot is abnormaly high. Check your initial system for any bad clashes, superpositions, etc. Also, are you trying to run your simulation at 450K? I'm not sure what your system is, but you should try to heat it up slowly at first. Although designed for Amber MD's, I found these tutorials very useful:

http://amber.scripps.edu/tutorials/

The first tutorial (TUTORIAL B1: Simulating a small fragment of DNA) deals with these issues.

Cheers!
-- 
Pablo Englebienne, PhD Student, Moitessier research group
Department of Chemistry, McGill University
801 Sherbrooke Street West
Otto Maass bldg, room 206
H3A 2K6 Montréal, Québec, Canada
Tel (514) 398-5501    Fax (514) 398-2382

"Progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." - Robert A. Heinlein


Kshatresh Dutta Dubey kshatresh%x%gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,

I am using Maestro, Impact to study molecular dynamics of a system..After some steps it is giving error like " fail to update box size".  log file is given below..


Total number of atoms = 12382
%IMPACT-I (runmd): Using the Verlet integrator
%IMPACT-I (runmd): Translational and rotational motions for the system are removed
Step number: 0 Non-bonded count: 2198814
Temp E-tot E-kin E-pot ETCM ERCM Pressure Density
4.50345E+02 2.72356E+16 1.10456E+04 2.72356E+16 1.82883E+03 1.78142E+03 3.65649E+02 3.94448E-01
%IMPACT-I (runmd): Translational and rotational motions for the system are removed; new initial conditions are:
Step number: 0 Non-bonded count: 2198814
4.50345E+02 2.72356E+16 1.10456E+04 2.72356E+16 1.82883E+03 1.78142E+03 3.65649E+02 3.94448E-01
nblistsetbox(): mmnblist is not initialized call nblistinit() first.
%IMPACT-E (die): At line 39
%IMPACT-E: xyzscale(): Unable to update box size!


kindelly help me to overcome this error..
Thanks in advance
with regards....

Kshatresh

--------------060009090609080305020706-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Sep 1 18:45:01 2008 From: "Joaquin Barroso jbarrosof[*]comex.com.mx" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: G03: crystal polarizability and pbc Message-Id: <-37693-080901153811-20586-VWKuqX6h0j14HwZeBT0pzw.:.server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Joaquin Barroso" Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:38:07 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Joaquin Barroso" [jbarrosof!A!comex.com.mx] Greetings everyone, Is there a way to calculate the polarizability of a crystal using the PBC module in Gaussian03? Could you point me to a reasonable set of papers regarding this question? I've been having troubles trying to make one of these calculations to converge and i havent had the time to take a deeper look on how to propperly use the aforementioned module. Thanks to everyone for your kind help Best wishes, Dr. Joaquin Barroso-Flores Centro de Investigacin en Polmeros, COMEX Marcos Achar Lobatn 2, Tepexpan, Mpo. de Acolman Mexico Tel Cel: 0445510072407 Correos alternos: joaquin.barroso^a^gmail.com jbarroso^a^cip.org jbarrosof^a^comex.com.mx