From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Sep 7 05:10:01 2009 From: "Cercis Morera Boado morera2004,,yahoo.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: M05 and M05-2X density functionals Message-Id: <-40184-090907050358-9088-JZnyi3qFLczR9KNSDtkp5A]_[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Cercis Morera Boado" Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 05:03:53 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Cercis Morera Boado" [morera2004^_^yahoo.com] Hi, Im looking for a comercial software which can perform M05 and M05-2X density functionals. Also it will be helpful to know other ways to implement this functionals. Thanks a lot From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Sep 7 07:37:01 2009 From: "Marcel Swart marcel.swart~!~icrea.es" To: CCL Subject: CCL: M05 and M05-2X density functionals Message-Id: <-40185-090907072727-2497-VWKuqX6h0j14HwZeBT0pzw(_)server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Marcel Swart Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--862278243 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 13:27:08 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Sent to CCL by: Marcel Swart [marcel.swart:+:icrea.es] --Apple-Mail-5--862278243 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed See: http://comp.chem.umn.edu/info/dft.htm On Sep 7, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Cercis Morera Boado =20 morera2004,,yahoo.com wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "Cercis Morera Boado" [morera2004^_^yahoo.com] > Hi, > Im looking for a comercial software which can perform M05 and =20 > M05-2X density functionals. Also it will be helpful to know other =20 > ways to implement this functionals. > Thanks a lot =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D dr. Marcel Swart ICREA Research Professor at Institut de Qu=EDmica Computacional Universitat de Girona Parc Cient=EDfic i Tecnol=F2gic Edifici Jaume Casademont (despatx A-27) Pic de Peguera 15 17003 Girona Catalunya (Spain) tel +34-972-183240 fax +34-972-183241 e-mail marcel.swart=icrea.es marcel.swart=udg.edu web http://www.icrea.cat/Web/ScientificForm.aspx?key=3D372 http://iqc.udg.edu/~marcel =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --Apple-Mail-5--862278243 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

See: 
http://comp.chem.umn.edu/in= fo/dft.htm

On Sep 7, 2009, at 11:03 AM, = Cercis Morera Boado morera2004,,yahoo.com wrote:


Sent to = CCL by: "Cercis Morera Boado" [morera2004^_^yahoo.com]
Hi, 
Im looking for a comercial software which can = perform M05 and M05-2X density functionals. Also it will be helpful to = know other ways to implement this functionals.
Thanks a lot

dr. Marcel = Swart

ICREA Research Professor = at
Institut de Qu=EDmica = Computacional
Universitat de = Girona

Parc Cient=EDfic i = Tecnol=F2gic
Edifici Jaume Casademont (despatx = A-27)
17003 Girona
Catalunya = (Spain)

tel
marcel.swart=udg.edu



=

= --Apple-Mail-5--862278243-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Sep 7 13:05:00 2009 From: "Basma Ghazal basmaghazal^^ymail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Steps of docking Message-Id: <-40186-090907130320-15775-4hPUVTgXOF6FXrfBj3gHyA(a)server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Basma Ghazal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-230009588-1252342986=:25709" Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:03:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Basma Ghazal [basmaghazal#ymail.com] --0-230009588-1252342986=:25709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dr Kalju: Thanks very much for your interest,=20 My question is just about the motivation of curiosity when I saw that on VE= GAZZ =A0I understand your answer when reading about force field =A0,=A0and now = =A0I became aware=A0of MGL tools for preparation to autodock and arguslab= =A0. I am very interested to see your Literature but unfortunately=A0I cannot=A0= log on the site Just in=A0drug design and=A0using of=A0QM, MM (oniom).=A0 Thanks, --- On Sun, 9/6/09, Kalju Kahn kalju*|*chem.ucsb.edu wrote: > From: Kalju Kahn kalju*|*chem.ucsb.edu Subject: CCL: Steps of docking To: "Ghazal, Basma " Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 7:33 PM Sent to CCL by: "Kalju Kahn" [kalju%a%chem.ucsb.edu] Basma, > Hi, > Thanks for the first result but I read that I have to=A0add hydrogen then= , > remove the polar one could you explain that please. You're welcome!=A0 But I am not sure what you are referring to this time.= =20 In order to calculate the electrostatic potential w/ all-atom force field such as AMBER, you need to add all hydrogen atoms; these are commonly missing in protein X-ray structures.=A0 Addition of hydrogens to tetrahedra= l carbons is trivial but addition of polar hydrogens is trickier: one may want to optimize the H-bonding network.=A0 Many docking programs do that during the "protein preparation" stage. In some cases you also need a structure without hydrogens.=A0 For example, = in UCSF Dock, you generate the protein surface so that the binding pocket could be defined.=A0 I guess eliminating H prior to surface definition save= s some computational time.=A0=A0=A0Maybe you want to ask help from AutoDock mailing list at http://autodock.scripps.edu/mailing_list if this is AutoDock specific. Kalju > --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Kalju Kahn kalju() chem.ucsb.edu > wrote: > > >> From: Kalju Kahn kalju() chem.ucsb.edu > Subject: CCL: Steps of docking > To: "Ghazal, Basma " > Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 8:26 PM > > > > Sent to CCL by: "Kalju Kahn" [kalju]=3D[chem.ucsb.edu] > Basma, > > One reason would be that the experimental structure was crystallized with > a small ligand in a larger pocket, and the voids of that pocket contain > water molecules.=A0 But you may want these voids be accessible to ligand > atoms while docking.=A0 With standard docking methods, the water will not= be > "squeezed" out during binding, as would happen with real molecules, so yo= u > need to remove them.=A0 Of course, other times you may want to keep some = of > these waters in order to benefit from solvent-mediated interactions. > > Kalju > > >> Hi: >> Thanks for this result but I need to ask about somthing; >> Why we remove water? >> Thanks > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dr. Kalju Kahn > Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry > UC Santa Barbara, CA 93106 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Kalju Kahn Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry UC Santa Barbara, CA 93106 -=3D This is automatically added to each message by the mailing script =3D-=A0 =A0 =A0=A0 =A0 =A0Subscribe/Unsubscribe:=20 =A0 =A0 =A0Job: http://www.ccl.net/jobs=20=A0 =A0 =A0=0A=0A=0A --0-230009588-1252342986=:25709 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Dr Kalju:
Thanks very much for your interest,
My question is just about the motiva= tion of curiosity when I saw that on VEGAZZ
 I understand your answer when reading about fo= rce field  , and now  I became aware of MGL tools for p= reparation to autodock and arguslab .
I am very interested to see your Literature = but unfortunately I cannot  log on the site Just in drug des= ign and using of QM, MM (oniom). 
Thanks,

--- On Sun, 9/6/09, Kalju Kahn kalju*|*chem.ucsb.edu <own= er-chemistry{:}ccl.net> wrote:

From: Kalju Kahn kalju*|*chem.ucsb.edu <owner-= chemistry{:}ccl.net>
Subject: CCL: Steps of docking
To: "Ghazal, Bas= ma " <basmaghazal{:}ymail.com>
Date: Sunday, September 6, 20= 09, 7:33 PM


Sent to CCL by: "Kalju Kahn" [kalju%a%chem.ucsb.= edu]
Basma,

> Hi,
> Thanks for the first result but I re= ad that I have to add hydrogen then,
> remove the polar one coul= d you explain that please.

You're welcome!  But I am not sure w= hat you are referring to this time.
In order to calculate the electrost= atic potential w/ all-atom force field
such as AMBER, you need to add al= l hydrogen atoms; these are commonly
missing in protein X-ray structures= .  Addition of hydrogens to tetrahedral
carbons is trivial but addi= tion of polar hydrogens is trickier: one may
want to optimize the H-bond= ing network.  Many docking programs do that
during the "protein pre= paration" stage.

In some cases you also need a structure without hyd= rogens.  For example, in
UCSF Dock, you generate the protein surfac= e so that the binding pocket
could be defined.  I guess eliminating H prior to surface definition saves
some computational time= .   Maybe you want to ask help from AutoDock
mailing list= at http://autodock.scripps.edu/mailing_list if this is
Aut= oDock specific.

Kalju


> --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Kalju Kah= n kalju() chem.ucsb.edu
> <owner-chemistry[#]ccl.net> wrote:>
>
>> From: Kalju Kahn kalju() chem.ucsb.edu <owner-= chemistry[#]ccl.net>
> Subject: CCL: Steps of docking
> To: = "Ghazal, Basma " <basmaghazal[#]ymail.com>
> Date: Sunday, Augu= st 30, 2009, 8:26 PM
>
>
>
> Sent to CCL by: "Kalju= Kahn" [kalju]=3D[chem.ucsb.edu]
> Basma,
>
> One reason = would be that the experimental structure was crystallized with
> a sm= all ligand in a larger pocket, and the voids of that pocket contain
> water molecules.  But you may want these voids be accessible to ligan= d
> atoms while docking.  With standard docking methods, the wat= er will not be
> "squeezed" out during binding, as would happen with = real molecules, so you
> need to remove them.  Of course, other = times you may want to keep some of
> these waters in order to benefit= from solvent-mediated interactions.
>
> Kalju
>
><= BR>>> Hi:
>> Thanks for this result but I need to ask about = somthing;
>> Why we remove water?
>> Thanks
>
&g= t;
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Dr. Kalju Kahn
>= Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
> UC Santa Barbara, CA 9310= 6
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dr. Kalju Kah= n
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
UC Santa Barbara, CA 93106=



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=0A= =0A --0-230009588-1252342986=:25709-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Sep 7 17:12:00 2009 From: "Werner K werner.schroedinger:googlemail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Compound retrosynthesis Message-Id: <-40187-090907171021-28045-SDvZVsytDiydtjwew10+SA:-:server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Werner K" Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 17:10:17 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Werner K" [werner.schroedinger..googlemail.com] Hi, given a certain compound, for instance caffeina, I am looking for a software that can estimate the difficulty of its synthesis and if possible the different synthetic routes, from commercial molecules. Thanks From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Sep 7 18:15:00 2009 From: "N. Sukumar nagams::rpi.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Compound retrosynthesis Message-Id: <-40188-090907181307-25061-/v+xx9bGiZCspVRx/QjS1g,+,server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "N. Sukumar" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:12:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "N. Sukumar" [nagams{:}rpi.edu] Have you tried SYLVIA and THERESA? http://www.molecular-networks.com/outoftheboxsolutions#synthesis Dr. N. Sukumar Rensselaer Exploratory Center for Cheminformatics Research http://reccr.chem.rpi.edu/ ==============Original message text=============== On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:10:17 EDT "Werner K werner.schroedinger:googlemail.com" wrote: Sent to CCL by: "Werner K" [werner.schroedinger..googlemail.com] Hi, given a certain compound, for instance caffeina, I am looking for a software that can estimate the difficulty of its synthesis and if possible the different synthetic routes, from commercial molecules. Thankshttp://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt===========End of original message text=========== From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Sep 7 21:21:00 2009 From: "Bryan Bishop kanzure%x%gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Compound retrosynthesis Message-Id: <-40189-090907210316-32020-Xz6VXRcPom54T6vxWSY95g.@.server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Bryan Bishop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:31:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Bryan Bishop [kanzure[*]gmail.com] On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Werner K werner.schroedinger,gmail.com wrote: > given a certain compound, for instance caffeina, I am looking for a software that can estimate the difficulty of its synthesis and if possible the different synthetic routes, from commercial molecules. In my spare time I am working on a free and open source retrosynthesis reaction planner. However, I do not have enough time or experience to complete it on my own. I would welcome anyone who wants to help out and check out progress to contact me off-list or by phone. Thanks, - Bryan http://heybryan.org/ 1 512 203 0507