From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 06:54:00 2012 From: "Sergio Manzetti sergio.manzetti!^!gmx.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Mills-Nixon effect Message-Id: <-47664-120926064637-23762-CglknIgecFvzZMTVLsr37w|,|server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Sergio Manzetti" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="========GMXBoundary167001348656389186260" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:46:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Sergio Manzetti" [sergio.manzetti#gmx.com] --========GMXBoundary167001348656389186260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear CCLrs, does the Mills-Nixon effect unilaterally depend on the annelation of four, five or six-membered rings onto benzene giving and alternation of reactivity, or does the effect also encomapss: - linking of ANY functional group to an aromatic unit? Thanks Sergio --========GMXBoundary167001348656389186260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear CCL= rs, does the Mills-Nixon effect unilaterally depend on the annelation of fo= ur, five or six-membered rings onto benzene giving and alternation of react= ivity,  or does the effect also encomapss:
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=20 Thanks
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--========GMXBoundary167001348656389186260-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 08:06:01 2012 From: "shekhar mittal sumitmittal49 a gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: interaction energy Message-Id: <-47665-120926001749-22673-+tfAF2FVONKn1f6SCfcotg[-]server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "shekhar mittal" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 00:17:48 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "shekhar mittal" [sumitmittal49(_)gmail.com] Hi, It is a bit trivial problem but I am quite stuck with it. I have performed ab initio calculations for a complex (A-B) and its components (A and B) at the MP2/6-31G level of theory. In the output file, I get energy for each molecule listed as E(MP2). From frequency calculations, I got zero-point corrections. So my question is that while calculating interaction (or stabilization) energy, we use De (i.e. E(MP2)) or Do( E(MP2)-zero point energy correction)? From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 08:41:00 2012 From: "Prof Ponnadurai Ramasami ramchemi]_[intnet.mu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Call for Paper-7th Workshop on Computational Chemistry and Its Applications-Part of ICCS 2013 Message-Id: <-47666-120926024156-3305-AQM8xQq2kzV6k2+NjhUjfw^^^server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Prof Ponnadurai Ramasami" Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01CD9BD3.85003340" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:41:41 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Prof Ponnadurai Ramasami" [ramchemi+/-intnet.mu] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CD9BD3.85003340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sir/Madam The 7th Workshop on Computational Chemistry and Its Applications (7th = CCA) will be organized as part of the International Conference on = Computational Science (ICCS 2013). ICCS 2013 will be held from 5 to 7 June 2013 in Barcelona. http://www.iccs-meeting.org/iccs2013/index.html You are invited to submit full paper/s to be considered for the 7th CCA workshop.=20 =20 Prof John Dyke from the University of Southampton will deliver the = keynote address entitled "Probing the structure and reactivity of Reactive Intermediates with Photoionization and Quantum Chemistry calculations". =20 All details are available on workshop webpage, http://sites.uom.ac.mu/cca/ All papers will be peer-reviewed and accepted papers (oral or poster) = will be published in Procedia Computer Science ( http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/journaldescription.cws_home/719435/descr= ipt ion) Let me know if you need any more information.=20 Looking forward to receive your full paper/s. Kind regards. Prof Ponnadurai Ramasami=20 =20 7th CCA Workshop Organizer Professor Ponnadurai Ramasami | FRSC, FICCE, CSci, CChem | ? = Computational Chemistry Group, Department of Chemistry, Faculty of Science, University = of Mauritius, R=E9duit, Mauritius | Tel: ) +230 403-7506 | Fax: 6 +230 = 465-6928 | | + ramchemi-.-intnet.mu | =FF www.uom.ac.mu | =FF www.uom.ac.mu/sites/CCUOM/index.html | < Chemistry I Computational I Chemistry > =3D Useful results < Chemistry = I Chemistry > =FC Please think about the environment. Print this email only if = required. P Think green. Think before you print. =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CD9BD3.85003340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Sir/Madam

The 7th Workshop on Computational = Chemistry and Its Applications (7th CCA) will be organized as part of the International Conference on Computational Science (ICCS = 2013).

ICCS 2013 will be held from 5 to 7 June 2013 = in Barcelona.

http://www.iccs-meeting.org/iccs2013/index.html

You are invited to = submit full paper/s to be considered for the 7th CCA workshop. =

 

Prof John Dyke from the University of Southampton will deliver the keynote address entitled "Probing = the structure and reactivity of Reactive Intermediates with Photoionization = and Quantum Chemistry calculations".

 

All details are = available on workshop webpage, http://sites.uom.ac.mu/cca/

All papers will be peer-reviewed and accepted = papers (oral or poster) will be published in Procedia Computer Science (http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/journaldescripti= on.cws_home/719435/description)

Let me know if you need any more information. =

Looking forward to receive your full = paper/s.

Kind regards.

Prof Ponnadurai Ramasami =

 =

7th CCA Workshop = Organizer

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------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CD9BD3.85003340-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 09:16:00 2012 From: "Iljoon Kang i.kang-*-samsung.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: TDMI**2 calculation Message-Id: <-47667-120926034448-17624-kVTSkRPlC6H7AxR9lDtQ8Q[#]server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Iljoon Kang" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 03:44:46 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Iljoon Kang" [i.kang-#-samsung.com] Hi~ I am calculating vibrationally-resolved electronic specra in Gaussian09 The calculation log file shows TDMI**2 (squared transition dipole moment integral) and I want to know the unit of TDMI**2. please explain me. Thanks From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 09:51:00 2012 From: "ILJOON KANG hacret^hanmail.net" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: The unit of TDMI**2 Message-Id: <-47668-120926035907-18193-S2R2pJz31VFfUZ6qLDToow/./server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "ILJOON KANG" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 03:59:06 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "ILJOON KANG" [hacret(!)hanmail.net] Hi~ I am calculating vibrationally-resolved electronic specra in Gaussian09 The calculation log file shows TDMI**2 (squared transition dipole moment integral) and I want to know the unit of TDMI**2. please explain me. Thanks From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 10:26:00 2012 From: "ILJOON Kang hacret^hanmail.net" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: What is the unit of TDMI**2 ? Message-Id: <-47669-120926040514-18415-1RSVK5IsizuEjnHDBrRhOw/a\server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "ILJOON Kang" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 04:05:13 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "ILJOON Kang" [hacret[#]hanmail.net] Hi~ I am calculating vibrationally-resolved electronic specra in Gaussian09 The calculation log file shows TDMI**2 (squared transition dipole moment integral) and I want to know the unit of TDMI**2. please explain me. Thanks From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 11:01:00 2012 From: "ILJOON KANG hacret|hanmail.net" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: What is the unit of TDMI**2? Message-Id: <-47670-120926041112-18677-ycqO2wT5vcc0PZbs5dROOQ * server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "ILJOON KANG" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 04:11:11 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "ILJOON KANG" [hacret(-)hanmail.net] Hi~ I am calculating vibrationally-resolved electronic specra in Gaussian09, using TD-DFT and FCHT. The calculation log file shows the value of TDMI**2 (squared transition dipole moment integral) and I want to know the unit of TDMI**2. please teach me. Thanks From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 11:35:01 2012 From: "Marcel Swart marcel.swart() icrea.cat" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Reminder: DFT2012 about to close Message-Id: <-47671-120926083407-3392-E3WtGHbaLEH05xV9upREtA#%#server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Marcel Swart Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4542359F-8F43-402D-A698-49175F848D60" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:33:52 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.1 \(1498\)) Sent to CCL by: Marcel Swart [marcel.swart===icrea.cat] --Apple-Mail=_4542359F-8F43-402D-A698-49175F848D60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear all, it is still time for the annual online popularity poll for density = functionals, but only shortly!! Next week, Oct. 1, is the end of the poll, so please hurry if not = already done so. http://ves.cat/bciP This popularity poll is based on an idea by Miquel Duran after a seminar = given by Matthias Bickelhaupt (see = http://www.marcelswart.eu/dft-poll/newsitem.pdf). By choice only 20 = density functionals are given in the Primera Divisi=F3, 20 in the Segona = Divisi=F3 with 10 reserve places available (in Segona Divisi=F3) for = additional suggestions (mail these to marcel.swart (at) udg.edu). The = functionals are ordered alphabetically (except for the reserve places = that are ordered chronologically).Please indicate for both the Primera = Divisi=F3 and the Segona Divisi=F3 what you think of current density = functionals.=20 The poll will be open until Oct. 1 2012, after which the ranking of = density functionals for the year 2012 will be made. Marcel Swart Matthias Bickelhaupt Miquel Duran =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D dr. Marcel Swart ICREA Research Professor at Institut de Qu=EDmica Computacional Universitat de Girona Facultat de Ci=E8ncies Campus Montilivi 17071 Girona Catalunya (Spain) tel +34-972-418861 fax +34-972-418356 e-mail marcel.swart|-|icrea.cat marcel.swart|-|udg.edu web http://www.marcelswart.eu vCard addressbook://www.marcelswart.eu/MSwart.vcf =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --Apple-Mail=_4542359F-8F43-402D-A698-49175F848D60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear all,

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= --Apple-Mail=_4542359F-8F43-402D-A698-49175F848D60-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 12:11:00 2012 From: "William F. Polik polik]-[hope.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Symmetry Message-Id: <-47672-120926084821-12671-TKJJIFISb9WCHI4sikbp0Q|server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "William F. Polik" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060000080207040602030600" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:48:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "William F. Polik" [polik _ hope.edu] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060000080207040602030600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sergio, WebMO (www.webmo.net) can identify the point group of any molecule, and also the subgroups. Furthermore, if the molecule is "nearly symmetric," it can identify the nearest point group and subgroups, and then symmetrize the structure as requested. Finally, for educational purposes, it can display the symmetry elements on the molecule. Although you can download and install WebMO for free, it is simpler just to try it out by visiting the Working Demo webpage: www.webmo.net/demo You could import your structure with New Job: Import Job, and then choose Symmetry: Symmetrize to display the point group and subgroups. Choosing Symmetry: Display Symmetry Elements will do the obvious. The algorithms used by WebMO have been published in: R. Jeffrey Largent, William F. Polik, and J.R. Schmidt, "Symmetrizer: Algorithmic Determination of Point Groups in Nearly Symmetric Molecules," Journal of Computational Chemistry 33, 1637-42 (2012). The WebMO symmetry feature has been very useful not only for detecting symmetry in complex molecules, but also for symmetrizing nearly symmetric molecules and for teaching symmetry and point groups to students. Will Polik On 9/21/12 12:13 PM, Sergio Manzetti sergio.manzetti^^gmx.com wrote: > Dear CCLrs, it is evident that molecular symmetry is not straight > forward for complex molecules. Are there any computational methods to > determine the symmetry of an input structure, and its subgroups? > > Sergio --------------060000080207040602030600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sergio,

WebMO (www.webmo.net) can identify the point group of any molecule, and also the subgroups.  Furthermore, if the molecule is "nearly symmetric," it can identify the nearest point group and subgroups, and then symmetrize the structure as requested.  Finally, for educational purposes, it can display the symmetry elements on the molecule.

Although you can download and install WebMO for free, it is simpler just to try it out by visiting the Working Demo webpage:
    www.webmo.net/demo
You could import your structure with New Job: Import Job, and then choose Symmetry: Symmetrize to display the point group and subgroups.  Choosing Symmetry: Display Symmetry Elements will do the obvious.

The algorithms used by WebMO have been published in:  R. Jeffrey Largent, William F. Polik, and J.R. Schmidt, "Symmetrizer: Algorithmic Determination of Point Groups in Nearly Symmetric Molecules," Journal of Computational Chemistry 33, 1637-42 (2012).

The WebMO symmetry feature has been very useful not only for detecting symmetry in complex molecules, but also for symmetrizing nearly symmetric molecules and for teaching symmetry and point groups to students.

Will Polik

On 9/21/12 12:13 PM, Sergio Manzetti sergio.manzetti^^gmx.com wrote:
Dear CCLrs, it is evident that molecular symmetry is not straight forward for complex molecules. Are there any computational methods to determine the symmetry of an input structure, and its subgroups?

Sergio

--------------060000080207040602030600-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 12:46:01 2012 From: "Mark Zottola mzottola**gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Mills-Nixon effect Message-Id: <-47673-120926093630-21981-Td697rzBLoPFb8NWq8Kibg+/-server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Mark Zottola Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93408cba2253104ca9ae848 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:36:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Mark Zottola [mzottola[*]gmail.com] --14dae93408cba2253104ca9ae848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The Mills-Nixon effect, that of bond fixation - does not depend on any annulation onto a benzene ring or any aromatic system. Rather it is a breaking of symmetry of the pi system to avoid the destabilization of an anti-aromatic system, i;e., those systems with 4n pi electrons. THis apparently also extends to molecules with 4n+2 pi electrons containing an anti-aromatic substructure. Biphenylene is an appropriate example. Two benzene rings are bonded together each at the 1,2 positions, defining a 4-membered ring between them. Considering the resonance contributing structures, one sees that the 4-membered ring can contain 2 pi bonds - and is therefore a cyclobutadienyl substructure. As the entire molecule contains 12 pi electrons, the fully conjugated system would be anti-aromatic as well. The Mills-Nixon effect breaks the overall symmetry of the system by lengthening the bonds between the two benzene rings. That bond elongation isolates the two benzene rings and avoids the destabilization of a fully-conjugated anti aromatic system. Therefore, the Mills-Nixon effect disrupts the conjugation of the system to achieve stability. When one attaches substituents to an aromatic system, there is no change in the number of pi electrons in the ring system. Therefore attaching a methoxy group to benzene does not change the aromaticity of the benzene system. Similarly, adding a nitro group to cyclobutadiene does not change the number of pi electrons in the system (4) and therefore the system remains anti-aromatic. There will be changes to the bond lengths in any cyclic, conjugated system by the addition of any substituent, be it methoxy, nitro, fluoro, amino, etc. Those changes reflect the perturbation of the MO energy levels by the substituent, but they are not disrupting the conjugation in the overall system. Therefore, these are not an aspect of the Mills-Nixon effect. On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Sergio Manzetti sergio.manzetti!^!gmx.com < owner-chemistry[a]ccl.net> wrote: > Dear CCLrs, does the Mills-Nixon effect unilaterally depend on the > annelation of four, five or six-membered rings onto benzene giving and > alternation of reactivity, or does the effect also encomapss: > > - linking of ANY functional group to an aromatic unit? > > Thanks > > Sergio --14dae93408cba2253104ca9ae848 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Mills-Nixon effect, that of bond fixation - does not depend on any annu= lation onto a benzene ring or any aromatic system. =A0Rather it is a breaki= ng of symmetry of the pi system to avoid the destabilization of an anti-aro= matic system, i;e., those systems with 4n pi electrons. =A0THis apparently = also extends to molecules with 4n+2 pi electrons containing an anti-aromati= c substructure.=A0

Biphenylene is an appropriate example. =A0Two benzene rings = are bonded together each at the 1,2 positions, defining a 4-membered ring b= etween them. =A0Considering the resonance contributing structures, one sees= that the 4-membered ring can contain 2 pi bonds - and is therefore a cyclo= butadienyl substructure. =A0As the entire molecule contains 12 pi electrons= , the fully conjugated system would be anti-aromatic as well. =A0The Mills-= Nixon effect breaks the overall symmetry of the system by lengthening the b= onds between the two benzene rings. =A0That bond elongation isolates the tw= o benzene rings and avoids the destabilization of a fully-conjugated anti a= romatic system. =A0Therefore, the Mills-Nixon effect disrupts the conjugati= on of the system to achieve stability.

When one attaches substituents to an aromatic system, t= here is no change in the number of pi electrons in the ring system. =A0Ther= efore attaching a methoxy group to benzene does not change the aromaticity = of the benzene system. =A0Similarly, adding a nitro group to cyclobutadiene= does not change the number of pi electrons in the system (4) and therefore= the system remains anti-aromatic. =A0There will be changes to the bond len= gths in any cyclic, conjugated system by the addition of any substituent, b= e it methoxy, nitro, fluoro, amino, etc. =A0Those changes reflect the pertu= rbation of the MO energy levels by the substituent, but they are not disrup= ting the conjugation in the overall system. =A0Therefore, these are not an = aspect of the Mills-Nixon effect.



On Wed, Sep 26, 2012= at 6:46 AM, Sergio Manzetti sergio.manzetti!^!g= mx.com <owner-chemistry[a]ccl.net> wrote:
Dear CCLrs, does the Mills-Nixon effect unilaterally= depend on the annelation of four, five or six-membered rings onto benzene = giving and alternation of reactivity,=A0 or does the effect also encomapss:=
=20
=20 - linking of ANY functional group to an aromatic unit?
=20
=20 Thanks
=20
=20 Sergio

--14dae93408cba2253104ca9ae848-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 14:41:00 2012 From: "Bradley Welch bwelch5(!)slu.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: interaction energy Message-Id: <-47674-120926143004-1665-DxdKPOLl1d7iGEkkLkiDbw=server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Bradley Welch Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043be010cddf9c04ca9f01af Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:29:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Bradley Welch [bwelch5(a)slu.edu] --f46d043be010cddf9c04ca9f01af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Before anything else I would highly consider doing a BSSE computation. The pople basis sets are prone to significant BSSE. So what I would do if I had the resources is redo your calculation with the BSSE correction. Then apply the zero point correction (calculated with BSSE!). To get the A-B interaction you would do the following AB= (AB+zp) - ((A+zp) +(B+zp)) On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:17 PM, shekhar mittal sumitmittal49 a gmail.com < owner-chemistry-#-ccl.net> wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "shekhar mittal" [sumitmittal49(_)gmail.com] > Hi, > It is a bit trivial problem but I am quite stuck with it. I have performed > ab initio calculations for a complex (A-B) and its components (A and B) at > the MP2/6-31G level of theory. In the output file, I get energy for each > molecule listed as E(MP2). From frequency calculations, I got zero-point > corrections. > So my question is that while calculating interaction (or stabilization) > energy, we use De (i.e. E(MP2)) or Do( E(MP2)-zero point energy correction)?> > > -- Bradley Welch Saint Louis University Monsanto Hall Room 218 --f46d043be010cddf9c04ca9f01af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Before anything else I would highly consider doing a BSSE computation. The = pople basis sets are prone to significant BSSE.

So what = I would do if I had the resources is redo your calculation with the BSSE co= rrection. Then apply the zero point correction (calculated with BSSE!). To = get the A-B interaction you would do the following=A0


AB=3D (AB+zp) - ((A+zp) +(B+zp))

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:17 PM, shekhar= mittal sumitmittal49 a gmail.com <= owner-chemistry-#-ccl.net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: "shekhar =A0mittal" [sumitmittal49(_)gmail.com]
Hi,
It is a bit trivial problem but I am quite stuck with it. I have performed = ab initio calculations for a complex (A-B) and its components (A and B) at = the MP2/6-31G level of theory. In the output file, I get energy for each mo= lecule listed as E(MP2). From frequency calculations, I got zero-point corr= ections.
So my question is that while calculating interaction (or stabilization) ene= rgy, we use De (i.e. E(MP2)) or Do( E(MP2)-zero point energy correction)?


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--f46d043be010cddf9c04ca9f01af-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 15:55:00 2012 From: "Sergio Manzetti sergio.manzetti ~ gmx.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Mills-Nixon effect Message-Id: <-47675-120926141017-24851-hnIkpUqygxwW/i6XGG5qGg],[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Sergio Manzetti" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="========GMXBoundary93581348682982450372" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:09:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Sergio Manzetti" [sergio.manzetti],[gmx.com] --========GMXBoundary93581348682982450372 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark, in a paper by Verdal and Hudson, Chemical Physics Letters 434 (2007) 241–244, the Mills Nixon effect is described the change in reactivity caused by the localization of the benzene double-bonds. If the localization of pi bonds changes reactivity, why cannot other functional groups that alter the distribution of aromatic bonds in a ring still be regarded as Mills Nixon? The reactivity must change if the electronic density is affected (Fukui, 1982). Thus, why cannot any functional group that affects the subdivision of bonds in a benzene be called Mills-Nixon? Sergio ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Zottola mzottola**gmail.com Sent: 09/26/12 03:36 PM To: Manzetti, Sergio Subject: CCL: Mills-Nixon effect The Mills-Nixon effect, that of bond fixation - does not depend on any annulation onto a benzene ring or any aromatic system. Rather it is a breaking of symmetry of the pi system to avoid the destabilization of an anti-aromatic system, i;e., those systems with 4n pi electrons. THis apparently also extends to molecules with 4n+2 pi electrons containing an anti-aromatic substructure. Biphenylene is an appropriate example. Two benzene rings are bonded together each at the 1,2 positions, defining a 4-membered ring between them. Considering the resonance contributing structures, one sees that the 4-membered ring can contain 2 pi bonds - and is therefore a cyclobutadienyl substructure. As the entire molecule contains 12 pi electrons, the fully conjugated system would be anti-aromatic as well. The Mills-Nixon effect breaks the overall symmetry of the system by lengthening the bonds between the two benzene rings. That bond elongation isolates the two benzene rings and avoids the destabilization of a fully-conjugated anti aromatic system. Therefore, the Mills-Nixon effect disrupts the conjugation of the system to achieve stability. When one attaches substituents to an aromatic system, there is no change in the number of pi electrons in the ring system. Therefore attaching a methoxy group to benzene does not change the aromaticity of the benzene system. Similarly, adding a nitro group to cyclobutadiene does not change the number of pi electrons in the system (4) and therefore the system remains anti-aromatic. There will be changes to the bond lengths in any cyclic, conjugated system by the addition of any substituent, be it methoxy, nitro, fluoro, amino, etc. Those changes reflect the perturbation of the MO energy levels by the substituent, but they are not disrupting the conjugation in the overall system. Therefore, these are not an aspect of the Mills-Nixon effect. On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Sergio Manzetti sergio.manzetti!^!http://gmx.com < owner-chemistry*ccl.net > wrote: Dear CCLrs, does the Mills-Nixon effect unilaterally depend on the annelation of four, five or six-membered rings onto benzene giving and alternation of reactivity, or does the effect also encomapss: - linking of ANY functional group to an aromatic unit? Thanks Sergio --========GMXBoundary93581348682982450372 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=20 Mark, i= n a paper by Verdal and Hudson, Chemical Physics Letters 434 (2007) 241=E2= =80=93244, the Mills Nixon effect is described the change in reactivity cau= sed by the localization of the benzene double-bonds.  If the localizat= ion of pi bonds changes reactivity, why cannot other functional groups that= alter the distribution of aromatic bonds in a ring still be regarded as Mi= lls Nixon? The reactivity must change if the electronic density is affected= (Fukui, 1982). Thus, why cannot any functional group that affects the subd= ivision of bonds in a benzene be called Mills-Nixon?
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=20 The = Mills-Nixon effect, that of bond fixation - does not depend on any annulati= on onto a benzene ring or any aromatic system.  Rather it is a breakin= g of symmetry of the pi system to avoid the destabilization of an anti-arom= atic system, i;e., those systems with 4n pi electrons.  THis apparentl= y also extends to molecules with 4n+2 pi electrons containing an anti-aroma= tic substructure. 

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--========GMXBoundary93581348682982450372-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Wed Sep 26 22:37:00 2012 From: "Dr. Daniel Glossman-Mitnik dglossman[A]gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Computational Chemistry congress in Barcelona Message-Id: <-47676-120926221454-26193-zVUuSLa9REs/yTi0LdfGbA[a]server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Dr. Daniel Glossman-Mitnik" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:14:45 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Sent to CCL by: "Dr. Daniel Glossman-Mitnik" [dglossman]-[gmail.com] Dear all: I have received an e-mail with the announcement of a Computational Chemistry related congress to be held in Barcelona, Spain during 2013. However, unfortunately I have deleted the message. May somebody send me information about this? Thanks in advance. Best regards, Daniel ************************************************************************ Dr. Daniel Glossman-Mitnik NANOCOSMOS Virtual Lab - CIMAV, SC Miguel de Cervantes 120 - Comp. Ind. Chihuahua Chihuahua, Chih 31109 - México Tel: 614 4391151. Lab: 614 4394805/1190 Secretaría/FAX: 614 4391130 Corro electrónico: daniel.glossman,+,cimav.edu.mx dglossman,+,gmail.com Página WEB: http://www.cimav.edu.mx/cv/daniel.glossman ************************************************************************