Concur, as evidenced by the fact that questions regarding = Gaussian often do not explicitly state that it is the software to which the= question pertains; while those questions addressing other packages almost = invariably lead with identification of the relevant software.

-Brian

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jim Kress jimkress35,,gmail.com <owner-chemistry*ccl.net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [jimkress35,+,gmail.com]
Agree.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
> From: owner-chemistry+jimkress35=3D=3Dgmail.com=3Dccl.net
[mailto:owner-chemistry+jim= kress35=3D=3Dgmail.com=3D ccl.net] On Behalf Of=
Salter-Duke, Brian James=C2=A0 brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:31 PM
To: Kress, Jim
Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?

Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James "

[brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan,

Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they should<= br> as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other programs,=
e.g.
GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to help=
each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list.
Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is called the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this shames the= m
into doing so.

Cheers, Brian.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote:
>
> Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net
> Dear CCL,
> This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about support= ing
CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local Columbus O= H
NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a member...)= .
Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts o= f
benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably more<= br> inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in
particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed on the=
Web for more than 20 years.
>
> At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear be= side
one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I hear= ,
they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and they do=
help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put the<= br> banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL expenses= .

>
> There are other ways to support CCL:
> 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the c= omp
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 chem or related position. People tell me that they find > =C2=A0=C2=A0 a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do no= t
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job<= br> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 description. The ads have counters, so you can see that t= hey
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a can= didate
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 is now.
>
> 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD.
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 You can grep and do things like:
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \; > =C2=A0=C2=A0 and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already= ther?),
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 the CCL will survive better than other computational chem= istry
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 repositories. Someone will have a copy of it.
>
> 3) You can also be a personal sponsor.
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular.<= br> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollar= s,
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet he= ar about
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what= do
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 I know?
>
> 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops.
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 This service is free but I do not shy if you help me
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 with 50 USD donation:
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/con= ferences/
>
> Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital budget= " for CCL
and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of CCL is=
you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your
contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating.=
Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some grad students were born after CCL started...
>
> Thank you all for being a part of CCL.
> Jan
> --
> Jan Labanowski
> jkl%a%ccl.net and oth= er addresses>

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--001a11c24118e7ff7605143dc13f-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Apr 21 15:15:00 2015 From: "Robert Molt r.molt.chemical.physics|,|gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? Message-Id: <-51294-150421134746-2772-s21tyVqudIc83JyR6RYmCA(-)server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Robert Molt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 13:47:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Robert Molt [r.molt.chemical.physics|-|gmail.com] Gaussian has ignored some of my more technical requests. Not that they are obliged to answer them, mind you. On 4/21/15 10:54 AM, Chang, Christopher Christopher.Chang],[nrel.gov wrote: > To be fair, upon visiting their website one can mouse over "Tech Support," > click on "More...," and be presented with quite a lot of information, > including "Contacting Gaussian, Inc. Technical Support." Granted it's not a > mailing list, but their model allows them to ensure information is correct > as ways of doing things, keywords, etc. change. > > I don't think I've ever had a request for help ignored by Gaussian. I can't > say the same for mailing lists in general. CCL raises the bar though, and is > a fantastic resource. That DVD is intriguing... > > - Chris > > -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-chemistry+christopher.chang==nrel.gov:ccl.net > [mailto:owner-chemistry+christopher.chang==nrel.gov:ccl.net] On Behalf Of > Salter-Duke, Brian James brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 8:31 PM > To: Chang, Christopher > Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? > > > Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James " > [brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan, > > Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they should > as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other programs, > e.g. > GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to help > each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very > inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list. > Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is called > the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this shames them > into doing so. > > Cheers, Brian. > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote: >> Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net >> Dear CCL, >> This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about supporting > CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local Columbus OH > NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a member...). > Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts of > benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably more > inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for > most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and > more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in > particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed on the > Web for more than 20 years. >> At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear beside > one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I hear, > they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and they do > help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put the > banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL expenses. > >> There are other ways to support CCL: >> 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL >> Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs >> This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the comp >> chem or related position. People tell me that they find >> a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do not >> find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job >> description. The ads have counters, so you can see that they >> are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a candidate >> is now. >> >> 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD. >> http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd >> You can grep and do things like: >> find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \; >> and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case >> of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already ther?), >> the CCL will survive better than other computational chemistry >> repositories. Someone will have a copy of it. >> >> 3) You can also be a personal sponsor. >> http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members >> For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular. >> BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollars, >> give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet hear about >> anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what do >> I know? >> >> 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops. >> This service is free but I do not shy if you help me >> with 50 USD donation: >> http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ >> >> Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital budget" for CCL > and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of CCL is > you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your > contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating. > Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some > grad students were born after CCL started... >> Thank you all for being a part of CCL. >> Jan >> -- >> Jan Labanowski >> jkl%a%ccl.net and other addresses> -- Dr. Robert Molt Jr. r.molt.chemical.physics:+:gmail.com Nigel Richards Research Group Department of Chemistry & Chemical Biology Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis LD 326 402 N. Blackford St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Apr 21 15:50:01 2015 From: "Gary W Trucks trucks|-|gaussian.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? Message-Id: <-51295-150421144127-25156-rwbWIatBll1nH9WbQnS8bA_._server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Gary W Trucks" Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 14:41:26 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Gary W Trucks" [trucks-#-gaussian.com] Gaussian, Inc. has a team of highly experienced Ph.D. theoretical chemists who do full time technical support. The best and most accurate support for Gaussian is available directly from us. We respond to dozens of messages each day in both English and Mandarin. If you have an issue, please write to help:+:gaussian.com. Best regards, Gary W. Trucks, Ph.D. Vice President, Research & Development Gaussian, Inc. > "Brian Skinn bskinn~~alum.mit.edu" wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: Brian Skinn [bskinn=alum.mit.edu] > --001a11c24118e7ff7605143dc13f > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Concur, as evidenced by the fact that questions regarding Gaussian often do > not explicitly state that it is the software to which the question > pertains; while those questions addressing other packages almost invariably > lead with identification of the relevant software. > > -Brian > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jim Kress jimkress35,,gmail.com < > owner-chemistry*ccl.net> wrote: > > > > > Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [jimkress35,+,gmail.com] > > Agree. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com=ccl.net > > [mailto:owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com=ccl.net] On Behalf Of > > Salter-Duke, Brian James brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com > > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:31 PM > > To: Kress, Jim > > Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? > > > > > > Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James " > > [brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan, > > > > Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they should > > as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other programs, > > e.g. > > GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to help > > each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very > > inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list. > > Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is called > > the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this shames > > them > > into doing so. > > > > Cheers, Brian. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote: > > > > > > Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net > > > Dear CCL, > > > This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about supporting > > CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local Columbus > > OH > > NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a > > member...). > > Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts > > of > > benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably more > > inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for > > most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and > > more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in > > particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed on the > > Web for more than 20 years. > > > > > > At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear > > beside > > one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I > > hear, > > they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and they do > > help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put the > > banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL > > expenses. > > > > > > > > There are other ways to support CCL: > > > 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL > > > Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs > > > This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the comp > > > chem or related position. People tell me that they find > > > a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do not > > > find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job > > > description. The ads have counters, so you can see that they > > > are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a candidate > > > is now. > > > > > > 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD. > > > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd > > > You can grep and do things like: > > > find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \; > > > and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case > > > of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already ther?), > > > the CCL will survive better than other computational chemistry > > > repositories. Someone will have a copy of it. > > > > > > 3) You can also be a personal sponsor. > > > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members > > > For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular. > > > BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollars, > > > give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet hear about > > > anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what do > > > I know? > > > > > > 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops. > > > This service is free but I do not shy if you help me > > > with 50 USD donation: > > > http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ > > > > > > Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital budget" for > > CCL > > and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of CCL is > > you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your > > contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating. > > Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some > > grad students were born after CCL started... > > > > > > Thank you all for being a part of CCL. > > > Jan > > > -- > > > Jan Labanowski > > > jkl%a%ccl.net and other addresses> > > > > -- > > Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke) Brian.Salter-Duke*_*monash.edu > > Adjunct Associate Professor > > Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences > > Monash University Parkville Campus, VIC 3052, Australiahttp:// > > www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt> > > > > > > --001a11c24118e7ff7605143dc13f > Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >

Concur, as evidenced by the fact that questions regarding = > Gaussian often do not explicitly state that it is the software to which the= > question pertains; while those questions addressing other packages almost = > invariably lead with identification of the relevant software.

-Brian

quote">On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jim Kress jimkress35,, ttp://gmail.com">gmail.com < r-chemistry*ccl.net" target=3D"_blank">owner-chemistry*ccl.net> n> wrote:

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> Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [jimkress35,+, .com" target=3D"_blank">gmail.com]
> Agree.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-chemistry+jimkress35=3D=3D get=3D"_blank">gmail.com=3D >ccl.net
> [mailto:owner-chemistry+jim= > kress35=3D=3Dgmail.com a>=3D ccl.net] On Behalf Of= >
> Salter-Duke, Brian James=C2=A0 om" target=3D"_blank">brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:31 PM
> To: Kress, Jim
> Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?
>
>
> Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James "
>
[brian.james.duke,+, om" target=3D"_blank">gmail.com] Hi Jan,
>
> Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they should<= > br> > as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other programs,= >
> e.g.
> GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to help= >
> each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very > > inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list.
> Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is called r> > the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this shames the= > m
> into doing so.
>
> Cheers, Brian.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, y.net" target=3D"_blank">janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote:
> >
> > Sent to CCL by: janl%% k">speakeasy.net
> > Dear CCL,
> > This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about support= > ing
> CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local Columbus O= > H
> NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a member...)= > .
> Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts o= > f
> benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably more<= > br> > inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for > > most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and > > more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in
> particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed on the= >
> Web for more than 20 years.
> >
> > At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear be= > side
> one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I hear= > ,
> they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and they do= >
> help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put the<= > br> > banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL expenses= > .
>
> >
> > There are other ways to support CCL:
> > 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 Details: lank">http://www.ccl.net/jobs
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the c= > omp
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 chem or related position. People tell me that they find r> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do no= > t
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job<= > br> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 description. The ads have counters, so you can see that t= > hey
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a can= > didate
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 is now.
> >
> > 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD.
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D"_blank">http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 You can grep and do things like:
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \; > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already= > ther?),
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 the CCL will survive better than other computational chem= > istry
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 repositories. Someone will have a copy of it.
> >
> > 3) You can also be a personal sponsor.
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 ers" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members >
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular.<= > br> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollar= > s,
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet he= > ar about
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what= > do
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 I know?
> >
> > 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops.
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 This service is free but I do not shy if you help me
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 with 50 USD donation:
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 ferences/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/con= > ferences/
> >
> > Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital budget= > " for CCL
> and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of CCL is= >
> you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your
> contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating.= >
> Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some > > grad students were born after CCL started...
> >
> > Thank you all for being a part of CCL.
> > Jan
> > --
> > Jan Labanowski
> > jkl%a%ccl.net and oth= > er addresses>
>
> --
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke)=C2=A0 =C2=A0Brian.Salter-Duke*_= > *monash.edu
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Adjun= > ct Associate Professor
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Monash Institute of Pharmaceutica= > l Sciences
>
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> > --001a11c24118e7ff7605143dc13f-- > > From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Apr 21 18:01:00 2015 From: "Salter-Duke, Brian James - brian.james.duke*o*gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? Message-Id: <-51296-150421171204-772-ViYhs617jaNeakZnzoInLw::server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Salter-Duke, Brian James -" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 07:11:52 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James -" [brian.james.duke[a]gmail.com] That is indeed the case, and I have had excellent relationships with the Gaussian staff over the years and they have been most helpfull. However other programs provide direct support also and their developers are also helpfull. But other programs have a separate list. In some cases, and the Dalton list springs to mind, the developers are active on the list helping people. Lists differ. The GAMESS(US) list is not run by the GAMESS(US) delelopers and they are not active on the list. The ORCA list is run by the ORCA developers and they are active on the list. Gaussian does not have a list and the Gaussian Inc staff do not help the many people who seek Gaussian help on the CCL. I am not hitting Gaussian, but I do think they could help CCL more, both with advice and money. CCL is a very important resource and we all benefit from it, including Gaussian Inc and its users. Brian. On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 02:54:42PM +0000, Chang, Christopher Christopher.Chang],[nrel.gov wrote: > To be fair, upon visiting their website one can mouse over "Tech Support," > click on "More...," and be presented with quite a lot of information, > including "Contacting Gaussian, Inc. Technical Support." Granted it's not a > mailing list, but their model allows them to ensure information is correct > as ways of doing things, keywords, etc. change. > > I don't think I've ever had a request for help ignored by Gaussian. I can't > say the same for mailing lists in general. CCL raises the bar though, and is > a fantastic resource. That DVD is intriguing... > > - Chris > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-chemistry+christopher.chang==nrel.gov:ccl.net > [mailto:owner-chemistry+christopher.chang==nrel.gov:ccl.net] On Behalf Of > Salter-Duke, Brian James brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 8:31 PM > To: Chang, Christopher > Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? > > > Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James " > [brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan, > > Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they should > as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other programs, > e.g. > GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to help > each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very > inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list. > Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is called > the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this shames them > into doing so. > > Cheers, Brian. > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote: > > > > Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net > > Dear CCL, > > This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about supporting > CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local Columbus OH > NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a member...). > Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts of > benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably more > inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for > most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and > more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in > particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed on the > Web for more than 20 years. > > > > At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear beside > one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I hear, > they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and they do > help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put the > banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL expenses. > > > > > There are other ways to support CCL: > > 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL > > Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs > > This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the comp > > chem or related position. People tell me that they find > > a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do not > > find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job > > description. The ads have counters, so you can see that they > > are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a candidate > > is now. > > > > 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD. > > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd > > You can grep and do things like: > > find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \; > > and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case > > of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already ther?), > > the CCL will survive better than other computational chemistry > > repositories. Someone will have a copy of it. > > > > 3) You can also be a personal sponsor. > > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members > > For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular. > > BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollars, > > give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet hear about > > anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what do > > I know? > > > > 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops. > > This service is free but I do not shy if you help me > > with 50 USD donation: > > http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ > > > > Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital budget" for CCL > and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of CCL is > you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your > contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating. > Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... 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Message-Id: <-51297-150421172919-3288-j7gRUgTkyPpJtYUI/M/DWw*server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Robert Molt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:29:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Robert Molt [r.molt.chemical.physics]*[gmail.com] Update: in response to the previous post of mine, a kind higher-up in Gaussian email me to inquire what technical question was missed. The gentleman said he would look into the matter of the emails of mine which were not responded to. I thus should fairly report this lest I malign someone unfairly! -Robert On 4/21/15 1:47 PM, Robert Molt r.molt.chemical.physics|,|gmail.com wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: Robert Molt [r.molt.chemical.physics|-|gmail.com] > Gaussian has ignored some of my more technical requests. Not that they > are obliged to answer them, mind you. > > On 4/21/15 10:54 AM, Chang, Christopher Christopher.Chang],[nrel.gov > wrote: >> To be fair, upon visiting their website one can mouse over "Tech >> Support," >> click on "More...," and be presented with quite a lot of information, >> including "Contacting Gaussian, Inc. Technical Support." Granted it's >> not a >> mailing list, but their model allows them to ensure information is >> correct >> as ways of doing things, keywords, etc. change. >> >> I don't think I've ever had a request for help ignored by Gaussian. I >> can't >> say the same for mailing lists in general. CCL raises the bar though, >> and is >> a fantastic resource. That DVD is intriguing... >> >> - Chris >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-chemistry+christopher.chang==nrel.gov:ccl.net >> [mailto:owner-chemistry+christopher.chang==nrel.gov:ccl.net] On >> Behalf Of >> Salter-Duke, Brian James brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com >> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 8:31 PM >> To: Chang, Christopher >> Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? >> >> >> Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James " >> [brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan, >> >> Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they >> should >> as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other >> programs, >> e.g. >> GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users >> to help >> each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very >> inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list. >> Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is >> called >> the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this >> shames them >> into doing so. >> >> Cheers, Brian. >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote: >>> Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net >>> Dear CCL, >>> This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about >>> supporting >> CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local >> Columbus OH >> NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a >> member...). >> Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these >> bursts of >> benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably >> more >> inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for >> most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and >> more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in >> particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed >> on the >> Web for more than 20 years. >>> At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear >>> beside >> one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what >> I hear, >> they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and >> they do >> help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to >> put the >> banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL >> expenses. >> >>> There are other ways to support CCL: >>> 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL >>> Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs >>> This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the comp >>> chem or related position. People tell me that they find >>> a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do not >>> find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job >>> description. The ads have counters, so you can see that they >>> are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a candidate >>> is now. >>> >>> 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD. >>> http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd >>> You can grep and do things like: >>> find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \; >>> and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case >>> of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already ther?), >>> the CCL will survive better than other computational chemistry >>> repositories. Someone will have a copy of it. >>> >>> 3) You can also be a personal sponsor. >>> http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members >>> For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular. >>> BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollars, >>> give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet hear about >>> anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what do >>> I know? >>> >>> 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops. >>> This service is free but I do not shy if you help me >>> with 50 USD donation: >>> http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ >>> >>> Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital budget" >>> for CCL >> and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of >> CCL is >> you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your >> contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and >> participating. >> Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some >> grad students were born after CCL started... >>> Thank you all for being a part of CCL. >>> Jan >>> -- >>> Jan Labanowski >>> jkl%a%ccl.net and other addresses> > -- Dr. Robert Molt Jr. r.molt.chemical.physics**gmail.com Nigel Richards Research Group Department of Chemistry & Chemical Biology Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis LD 326 402 N. Blackford St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Apr 21 22:01:01 2015 From: "Joseph Leonard jleonard42===gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: How do you feel about CCL prosperous? Message-Id: <-51298-150421215957-14642-p6VSVvLT90GC6USJeuFTGg%server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Joseph Leonard Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 21:59:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Joseph Leonard [jleonard42-.-gmail.com] How many of the readers of this thread or any other have send Jan some money to help keep CCL afloat? It's all well and good to want companies to pony up, but they're not reading this thing - you are... It's one of the oldest forums that exist to support our field and it deserves support. Joe -- "I bought into the idea of jocks versus nerds for a long time, as I was insecure and prematurely defensive about not being into sport. But at some point you meet people who are excited about it and realise you are cutting yourself off from them. Take someone like Nate Silver. When he writes about baseball, I can see why he watches it. So maybe I can watch too. It's good to talk about science and be enthusiastic, without trying to build clubs." â€” Randall Munroe (XKCD) From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Apr 21 22:36:00 2015 From: "Jim Kress jimkress35 .. gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? Message-Id: <-51299-150421170222-30241-Gito25TBoob+RABdUEufRQ~~server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Jim Kress" Content-Language: en-us Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:02:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [jimkress35-#-gmail.com] Which does nothing to resolve the fact that dozens of Gaussian support requests appear on CCL and are resolved by many of the CCL subscribers. Is it Gaussian's position that all requests for Gaussian support be automatically re-routed to help##gaussian.com and not be allowed to appear on CCL? Jim Kress -----Original Message----- > From: owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com##ccl.net [mailto:owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com##ccl.net] On Behalf Of Gary W Trucks trucks|-|gaussian.com Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 2:41 PM To: Kress, Jim Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? Sent to CCL by: "Gary W Trucks" [trucks-#-gaussian.com] Gaussian, Inc. has a team of highly experienced Ph.D. theoretical chemists who do full time technical support. The best and most accurate support for Gaussian is available directly from us. We respond to dozens of messages each day in both English and Mandarin. If you have an issue, please write to help(-)gaussian.com. Best regards, Gary W. Trucks, Ph.D. Vice President, Research & Development Gaussian, Inc. > "Brian Skinn bskinn~~alum.mit.edu" wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: Brian Skinn [bskinn=alum.mit.edu] > --001a11c24118e7ff7605143dc13f > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Concur, as evidenced by the fact that questions regarding Gaussian > often do not explicitly state that it is the software to which the > question pertains; while those questions addressing other packages > almost invariably lead with identification of the relevant software. > > -Brian > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jim Kress jimkress35,,gmail.com < > owner-chemistry*ccl.net> wrote: > > > > > Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [jimkress35,+,gmail.com] Agree. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com=ccl.net > > [mailto:owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com=ccl.net] On Behalf Of > > Salter-Duke, Brian James brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com > > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:31 PM > > To: Kress, Jim > > Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? > > > > > > Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James " > > [brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan, > > > > Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they > > should as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most > > other programs, e.g. > > GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users > > to help each other and attract the attention of the developers. I > > support a very inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list. > > Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is > > called the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope > > this shames them into doing so. > > > > Cheers, Brian. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote: > > > > > > Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net Dear CCL, This is an > > > infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about supporting > > CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local > > Columbus OH NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh > > yes, I am a member...). > > Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these > > bursts of benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I > > am probably more inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of > > course, CCL is free for most of you, but not necessarily for me. It > > is getting actually more and more taxing on my time due to the state > > of Internet, and the email in particular. Lucky you, who do not have > > their email address displayed on the Web for more than 20 years. > > > > > > At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon > > > disappear > > beside > > one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what > > I hear, they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner > > site, and they do help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your > > marketing people to put the banner on CCL. It works, and it will > > also help me to cope with CCL expenses. > > > > > > > > There are other ways to support CCL: > > > 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL > > > Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs > > > This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the comp > > > chem or related position. People tell me that they find > > > a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do not > > > find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job > > > description. The ads have counters, so you can see that they > > > are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a candidate > > > is now. > > > > > > 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD. > > > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd > > > You can grep and do things like: > > > find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \; > > > and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case > > > of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already ther?), > > > the CCL will survive better than other computational chemistry > > > repositories. Someone will have a copy of it. > > > > > > 3) You can also be a personal sponsor. > > > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members > > > For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular. > > > BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollars, > > > give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet hear about > > > anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what do > > > I know? > > > > > > 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops. > > > This service is free but I do not shy if you help me > > > with 50 USD donation: > > > http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ > > > > > > Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital budget" > > > for > > CCL > > and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of > > CCL is you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and > > comments, your contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating. > > Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... > > Some grad students were born after CCL started... > > > > > > Thank you all for being a part of CCL. > > > Jan > > > -- > > > Jan Labanowski > > > jkl%a%ccl.net and other addresses> > > > > -- > > Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke) Brian.Salter-Duke*_*monash.edu > > Adjunct Associate Professor > > Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences > > Monash University Parkville Campus, VIC 3052, Australiahttp:// > > www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry > > /sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt> > > > > > > --001a11c24118e7ff7605143dc13f > Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >

Concur, as evidenced by the fact that questions > regarding = Gaussian often do not explicitly state that it is the > software to which the= question pertains; while those questions > addressing other packages almost = invariably lead with identification > of the relevant software.

-Brian

>class=3D"gmail_= > quote">On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jim Kress jimkress35,, href=3D"h= ttp://gmail.com">gmail.com < href=3D"mailto:owne= r-chemistry*ccl.net" > target=3D"_blank">owner-chemistry*ccl.net> n> wrote:

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> Agree.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-chemistry+jimkress35=3D=3D href=3D"http://gmail.com" tar= get=3D"_blank">gmail.com=3D href=3D"http://ccl.net" target=3D"_blank"= > >ccl.net
> [mailto: href=3D"mailto:owner-chemistry%2Bjimkress35">owner-chemistry+jim= > kress35=3D=3D target=3D"_blank">gmail.com a>=3D ccl.net] On > a>Behalf Of= >
> Salter-Duke, Brian James=C2=A0 href=3D"http://brian.james.duke_-_gmail.c= > om" target=3D"_blank">brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:31 PM
> To: Kress, Jim
> Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?
>

Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James "
>
[brian.james.duke,+, href=3D"http://gmail.c= om" target=3D"_blank">gmail.com] Hi > Jan,

Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I > think they should<= > br> > as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other > programs,=
e.g.
GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have > their own list for users to help=
each other and attract the > attention of the developers. I support a very > > inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a > list.
Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and > it is called r> > the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this > shames the= m
into doing so.

Cheers, Brian.

> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, href=3D"http://janl-x-speakeas= y.net" > target=3D"_blank">janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote:
>
> > Sent to CCL by: janl%% target=3D"_blan= k">speakeasy.net
> Dear CCL,
> This > is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about support= > ing
CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my > local Columbus O= H
NPR radio station that was supposedly > successful (Oh yes, I am a member...)= .
Maybe it is the spring in > the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts o= f
benevolent > reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably more<= > br> > inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free > for > > most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more > and > > more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email > in
particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address > displayed on the=
Web for more than 20 years.
>
> > At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear > be= side
one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 > years. From what I hear= ,
they are successful, they bring the > traffic to the banner site, and they do=
help. And bring good > publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put the<= > br> > banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL > expenses= .

>
> There are other ways to support > CCL:
> 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 Details: target=3D"_b= lank">http://www.ccl.net/jobs
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 This service is VERY successful if you look to fill > the c= omp
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> =C2=A0=C2=A0 are visited. With fall approaching > the time to find a can= didate
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 is now.
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> =C2=A0=C2=A0 href=3D"http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd" target= > =3D"_blank">http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd
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> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} > \; > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 and find stuff that Google will not show. And in > case
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> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 href=3D"http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_memb= > ers" > target=3D"_blank">http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members = > >
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be > popular.<= > br> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion > dollar= s,
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 give a chunk to CCL... I will take > it... I did not yet he= ar about
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> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 href=3D"http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/con= > ferences/" > target=3D"_blank">http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/con= > ferences/
> >
> > Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital > budget= " for CCL
and you all understand that there is no > free lunch. The operation of CCL is=
you, though, with your > thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your
contributions to > CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating.=
> Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... > Some > > grad students were born after CCL started...
>
> Thank > you all for being a part of CCL.
> Jan
> --
> Jan > Labanowski
> jkl%a% target=3D"_blank">ccl.net and oth= er addresses>

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> > --001a11c24118e7ff7605143dc13f--http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Apr 21 23:11:00 2015 From: "Bharat Sharma bharatsolbridge,,gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Semiempirical calculation on Gaussian using External parameter file Message-Id: <-51300-150421205332-10686-4kBjG/p0FA1nNy/TX2mVSw-.-server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Bharat Sharma" Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 20:53:31 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Bharat Sharma" [bharatsolbridge__gmail.com] Hello Everyone, I would like to use Gaussian 09 for Semiempirical calculations using external parameter file which is in MOPAC format. I am having trouble in writing correct input line. Can anyone correct it? #AM1=(Input,PARAM, MOPAC, BOTH) opt=gdiis I have a PARAM file with parameters. Thank you. Best regards, Bharat Sharma