From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jan 11 13:14:00 2022 From: "Andrew DeYoung andrewdaviddeyoung###gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Scientific notation in Gaussian 16 Message-Id: <-54576-220111125807-10655-B+a1ApIZepXC9mj6XxYHLw%a%server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Andrew DeYoung Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a1e4d805d5523158" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:57:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Andrew DeYoung [andrewdaviddeyoung|-|gmail.com] --000000000000a1e4d805d5523158 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, It appears that various quantities that are output by Gaussian 16 use notation of the form 6.626D-34. Is it correct for me to assume that this represents 6.626*10^(-34), and is equivalent to the scientific notation 6.626E-34 or 6.626e-34 used in other areas, such as in C/C++, Python, and MATLAB? Or does the "D" represent anything different from, or in addition to, "*10^"? Thank you for bearing with me with this question. (I am what we call in the US a millennial, and am not terribly well acquainted with the sometimes historical origins and meanings of notation!) Best, Andrew Andrew DeYoung, PhD Department of Chemistry Carnegie Mellon University --000000000000a1e4d805d5523158 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

It appears that various quantities = that are output by Gaussian 16 use notation of the form 6.626D-34.=C2=A0 Is= it correct for me to assume that this represents 6.626*10^(-34), and is eq= uivalent=C2=A0to the scientific notation 6.626E-34 or 6.626e-34 used in oth= er areas, such as in C/C++, Python, and MATLAB?=C2=A0 Or does the "D&q= uot; represent anything different from, or in addition to, "*10^"= ?

Thank you for bearing with me with this question= .=C2=A0 (I am what we call in the US a millennial, and am not terribly well= acquainted with the sometimes historical origins and meanings of notation!= )

Best,
Andrew

= Andrew DeYoung, PhD
Department of Chemistry
Carnegie Me= llon University
--000000000000a1e4d805d5523158-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jan 11 14:17:00 2022 From: "Joseph Leonard jleonard42===gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Scientific notation in Gaussian 16 Message-Id: <-54577-220111141611-20456-pV/M2LmPjW+uUIdnFgtE5Q..server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Joseph Leonard Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e3975e05d5534848" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:15:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Joseph Leonard [jleonard42-$-gmail.com] --000000000000e3975e05d5534848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable D means double precision as I recall. I vaguely remember q appearing somewhere when quad precision was used. E would be single precision. They=E2=80=99re all scientific notation as you surmise. Joe On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:13 PM Andrew DeYoung andrewdaviddeyoung### gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > It appears that various quantities that are output by Gaussian 16 use > notation of the form 6.626D-34. Is it correct for me to assume that this > represents 6.626*10^(-34), and is equivalent to the scientific notation > 6.626E-34 or 6.626e-34 used in other areas, such as in C/C++, Python, and > MATLAB? Or does the "D" represent anything different from, or in additio= n > to, "*10^"? > > Thank you for bearing with me with this question. (I am what we call in > the US a millennial, and am not terribly well acquainted with the sometim= es > historical origins and meanings of notation!) > > Best, > Andrew > > Andrew DeYoung, PhD > Department of Chemistry > Carnegie Mellon University > --=20 -- The London Underground is not a political movement... --000000000000e3975e05d5534848 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
D means double precision as I recall.=C2=A0 I vaguely rem= ember q appearing somewhere when quad precision was used.=C2=A0 E would be = single precision.=C2=A0 They=E2=80=99re all scientific notation as you surm= ise.

Joe

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On Tue, Jan= 11, 2022 at 2:13 PM Andrew DeYoung andrewdaviddeyoung###gmail.com <own= er-chemistry/./ccl.net> wrote:
Hi,

It appears that various quantities= that are output by Gaussian 16 use notation of the form 6.626D-34.=C2=A0 I= s it correct for me to assume that this represents 6.626*10^(-34), and is e= quivalent=C2=A0to the scientific notation 6.626E-34 or 6.626e-34 used in ot= her areas, such as in C/C++, Python, and MATLAB?=C2=A0 Or does the "D&= quot; represent anything different from, or in addition to, "*10^"= ;?

Thank you for bearing with me with this questio= n.=C2=A0 (I am what we call in the US a millennial, and am not terribly wel= l acquainted with the sometimes historical origins and meanings of notation= !)

Best,
Andrew

Andrew DeYoung, PhD
Department of Chemistry
Carnegie M= ellon University
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The London = Underground is not a political movement...
--000000000000e3975e05d5534848-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jan 11 15:01:01 2022 From: "=?utf-8?B?TWFyaXVzeiBSYWRvxYQ=?= mariusz.radon[]uj.edu.pl" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Scientific notation in Gaussian 16 Message-Id: <-54578-220111145945-16737-8RKwL20kxwdIR00Uj0qQ8g:_:server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: =?utf-8?B?TWFyaXVzeiBSYWRvxYQ=?= Content-ID: <3E801D96ADB8CF45B9816294D22DB51E:_:eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:59:39 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: =?utf-8?B?TWFyaXVzeiBSYWRvxYQ=?= [mariusz.radon(a)uj.edu.pl] > On 11 Jan 2022, at 18:57, Andrew DeYoung andrewdaviddeyoung###gmail.com wrote: > > Hi, > > It appears that various quantities that are output by Gaussian 16 use notation of the form 6.626D-34. Is it correct for me to assume that this represents 6.626*10^(-34), and is equivalent to the scientific notation 6.626E-34 or 6.626e-34 used in other areas, such as in C/C++, Python, and MATLAB? Or does the "D" represent anything different from, or in addition to, "*10^"? > > Thank you for bearing with me with this question. (I am what we call in the US a millennial, and am not terribly well acquainted with the sometimes historical origins and meanings of notation!) > > Best, > Andrew > > Andrew DeYoung, PhD > Department of Chemistry > Carnegie Mellon University Dear Andrew: You are right that "Dā€ just represents "*10^ā€. The D specifier informs you that the number printed was a double-precission real number in the FORTRAN program. You can find more about this by searching for FORTRAN formats. Best wishes, Mariusz Radon -- Mariusz Radon, Ph.D., D.Sc. Assistant Professor Faculty of Chemistry, Jagiellonian University Address: Gronostajowa 2, 30-387 Krakow, Poland Room C1-06, Phone: 48-12-686-24-89 E-mail: mradon()chemia.uj.edu.pl (mariusz.radon()uj.edu.pl) Web: https://tungsten.ch.uj.edu.pl/~mradon ORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1901-8521 From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jan 11 15:36:00 2022 From: "Marcos Verissimo Alves marcos_verissimo(0)id.uff.br" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Scientific notation in Gaussian 16 Message-Id: <-54579-220111150002-16931-3hD+M80JwIAeAqR5tbLDBA!A!server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Marcos Verissimo Alves Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ad42e605d553e577" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:59:20 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Marcos Verissimo Alves [marcos_verissimo(0)id.uff.br] --000000000000ad42e605d553e577 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andrew, In Fortran (I'm a Fortran programmer), we use "D" to designate a double-precision representation written in scientific notation, while "E" designates simple precision. That is very likely the reason for the "D" since a quick glance at the Wikipedia page for the list of Quantum Chemistry and Solid-State Physics software shows that Gaussian is written in Fortran. Best regards, Marcos --- Dr. Marcos Verissimo Alves Prof. Adjunto II, Curso de F=C3=ADsica Computacional Instituto de Ci=C3=AAncias Exatas Universidade Federal Fluminense Volta Redonda - RJ, Brasil Em ter., 11 de jan. de 2022 =C3=A0s 16:33, Andrew DeYoung andrewdaviddeyoun= g### gmail.com escreveu: > Hi, > > It appears that various quantities that are output by Gaussian 16 use > notation of the form 6.626D-34. Is it correct for me to assume that this > represents 6.626*10^(-34), and is equivalent to the scientific notation > 6.626E-34 or 6.626e-34 used in other areas, such as in C/C++, Python, and > MATLAB? Or does the "D" represent anything different from, or in additio= n > to, "*10^"? > > Thank you for bearing with me with this question. (I am what we call in > the US a millennial, and am not terribly well acquainted with the sometim= es > historical origins and meanings of notation!) > > Best, > Andrew > > Andrew DeYoung, PhD > Department of Chemistry > Carnegie Mellon University > --000000000000ad42e605d553e577 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Andrew,

In Fortran (I'm a Fortra= n programmer), we use "D" to designate a double-precision represe= ntation written in scientific notation, while "E" designates simp= le precision. That is very likely the reason for the "D" since a = quick glance at the Wikipedia page for the list o= f Quantum Chemistry and Solid-State Physics software=C2=A0shows that Ga= ussian is written in Fortran.

Best regards,
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Marcos
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Dr. Marcos Verissimo Alves
Prof. Adjunto II, Cur= so de F=C3=ADsica Computacional
= Instituto de Ci=C3=AAncias Exatas
Universidade Federal= Fluminense
Volta Redonda - RJ, Brasil

<= /div>


Em ter., 11 de jan. de 2022 =C3=A0s = 16:33, Andrew DeYoung andrewdaviddeyoung###gma= il.com <owner-chemistry(-)c= cl.net> escreveu:
Hi,

It appears that various = quantities that are output by Gaussian 16 use notation of the form 6.626D-3= 4.=C2=A0 Is it correct for me to assume that this represents 6.626*10^(-34)= , and is equivalent=C2=A0to the scientific notation 6.626E-34 or 6.626e-34 = used in other areas, such as in C/C++, Python, and MATLAB?=C2=A0 Or does th= e "D" represent anything different from, or in addition to, "= ;*10^"?

Thank you for bearing with me with th= is question.=C2=A0 (I am what we call in the US a millennial, and am not te= rribly well acquainted with the sometimes historical origins and meanings o= f notation!)

Best,
Andrew

=
Andrew DeYoung, PhD
Department of Chemistry
= Carnegie Mellon University
--000000000000ad42e605d553e577-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jan 11 16:11:00 2022 From: "Johannes Margraf margraf]=[fhi-berlin.mpg.de" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Scientific notation in Gaussian 16 Message-Id: <-54580-220111151216-27766-HhwaYd9ZzIZ7kyP2+1oKZg,,server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Johannes Margraf Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_75e476819f659470b0ecc452b4c18101" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 21:12:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Johannes Margraf [margraf|,|fhi-berlin.mpg.de] --=_75e476819f659470b0ecc452b4c18101 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Dear Andrew, this is how you write a double precision real in Fortran. In other words: It's more or less equivalent to 6.626E-34. Although you should note that this is a really small number and issues of precision might actually be pertinent here. Best regards, Hannes On 2022-01-11 18:57, Andrew DeYoung andrewdaviddeyoung###gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > It appears that various quantities that are output by Gaussian 16 use > notation of the form 6.626D-34. Is it correct for me to assume that > this represents 6.626*10^(-34), and is equivalent to the scientific > notation 6.626E-34 or 6.626e-34 used in other areas, such as in C/C++, > Python, and MATLAB? Or does the "D" represent anything different from, > or in addition to, "*10^"? > > Thank you for bearing with me with this question. (I am what we call > in the US a millennial, and am not terribly well acquainted with the > sometimes historical origins and meanings of notation!) > > Best, > Andrew > > Andrew DeYoung, PhD > Department of Chemistry > Carnegie Mellon University --=_75e476819f659470b0ecc452b4c18101 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

Dear Andrew,

this is how you write a double precision real in Fortran. In other words= : It's more or less equivalent to 6.626E-34. Although you should note that = this is a really small number and issues of precision might actually be per= tinent here.

Best regards,

Hannes


On 2022-01-11 18:57, Andrew DeYoung andrewdaviddeyoun= g###gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
 
It appears that various quantities that are output by Gaussian 16 use = notation of the form 6.626D-34.  Is it correct for me to assume that t= his represents 6.626*10^(-34), and is equivalent to the scientific not= ation 6.626E-34 or 6.626e-34 used in other areas, such as in C/C++, Python,= and MATLAB?  Or does the "D" represent anything different from, or in= addition to, "*10^"?
 
Thank you for bearing with me with this question.  (I am what we = call in the US a millennial, and am not terribly well acquainted with the s= ometimes historical origins and meanings of notation!)
 
Best,
Andrew
 
Andrew DeYoung, PhD
Department of Chemistry
Carnegie Mellon University


--=_75e476819f659470b0ecc452b4c18101-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jan 11 16:46:00 2022 From: "Francois Dion meitnerium109%gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Scientific notation in Gaussian 16 Message-Id: <-54581-220111152618-7316-Q/A/JbvyybFHtaAGmt45jg-#-server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Francois Dion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a8faa805d5544379" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:26:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Francois Dion [meitnerium109,gmail.com] --000000000000a8faa805d5544379 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andrew, The form D is a FORTRAN notation, meaning double precision. You can read it in a way equivalent to the notation E. However, if a number is read in FORTRAN with an E, the value will be in single precision. So you don't have to worry if you don't plan to modify the Gaussian code. Fran=C3=A7ois Dion On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:19 PM Andrew DeYoung andrewdaviddeyoung### gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > It appears that various quantities that are output by Gaussian 16 use > notation of the form 6.626D-34. Is it correct for me to assume that this > represents 6.626*10^(-34), and is equivalent to the scientific notation > 6.626E-34 or 6.626e-34 used in other areas, such as in C/C++, Python, and > MATLAB? Or does the "D" represent anything different from, or in additio= n > to, "*10^"? > > Thank you for bearing with me with this question. (I am what we call in > the US a millennial, and am not terribly well acquainted with the sometim= es > historical origins and meanings of notation!) > > Best, > Andrew > > Andrew DeYoung, PhD > Department of Chemistry > Carnegie Mellon University > --=20 Fran=C3=A7ois Dion --000000000000a8faa805d5544379 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Andrew,

The form D = is a FORTRAN notation, meaning double precision. You can read it in a way e= quivalent to the notation E. However, if a number is read in FORTRAN with a= n E, the value will be in single precision. So you don't have to worry = if you don't plan to modify the Gaussian code.

=
Fran=C3=A7ois Dion

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:19 PM Andrew DeYoun= g andrewdaviddeyoung###gmail.com <owner-chemistry[a]ccl.net> wrote= :
Hi,

It appears that various quantities that are outpu= t by Gaussian 16 use notation of the form 6.626D-34.=C2=A0 Is it correct fo= r me to assume that this represents 6.626*10^(-34), and is equivalent=C2=A0= to the scientific notation 6.626E-34 or 6.626e-34 used in other areas, such= as in C/C++, Python, and MATLAB?=C2=A0 Or does the "D" represent= anything different from, or in addition to, "*10^"?
Thank you for bearing with me with this question.=C2=A0 (I am = what we call in the US a millennial, and am not terribly well acquainted wi= th the sometimes historical origins and meanings of notation!)
Best,
Andrew

Andrew DeYoung= , PhD
Department of Chemistry
Carnegie Mellon Universit= y


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Fran=C3=A7ois Dion
--000000000000a8faa805d5544379-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Jan 11 17:20:00 2022 From: "Igors Mihailovs igorsm:+:cfi.lu.lv" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: [CCL]Re: CCL:G: Scientific notation in Gaussian 16 Message-Id: <-54582-220111155602-3671-Dh6jtSH7jJ41ge0pV7ARCw^^server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Igors Mihailovs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----18822V41NUDNDHLR39IY2MVE774IC7 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:55:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Igors Mihailovs [igorsm]=[cfi.lu.lv] ------18822V41NUDNDHLR39IY2MVE774IC7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Andrew, It's from Fortran=2E D means "double-precision"=2E E seems to be used for = single-precision numbers=2E=20 Fortran is widely used in the computational community because it's very fa= st with numerical operations, including matrix handling=2E Sincerely, Igors On 11 January 2022 19:57:50 EET, "Andrew DeYoung andrewdaviddeyoung###gmai= l=2Ecom" wrote: >Hi, > >It appears that various quantities that are output by Gaussian 16 use >notation of the form 6=2E626D-34=2E Is it correct for me to assume that = this >represents 6=2E626*10^(-34), and is equivalent to the scientific notation >6=2E626E-34 or 6=2E626e-34 used in other areas, such as in C/C++, Python,= and >MATLAB? Or does the "D" represent anything different from, or in additio= n >to, "*10^"? > >Thank you for bearing with me with this question=2E (I am what we call i= n >the US a millennial, and am not terribly well acquainted with the sometim= es >historical origins and meanings of notation!) > >Best, >Andrew > >Andrew DeYoung, PhD >Department of Chemistry >Carnegie Mellon University --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------18822V41NUDNDHLR39IY2MVE774IC7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Andrew,

It's from Fortran=2E D means "= double-precision"=2E E seems to be used for single-precision numbers=2E
Fortran is widely used in the computational community because it's ver= y fast with numerical operations, including matrix handling=2E

Since= rely,
Igors


On 11 January 2022 19:= 57:50 EET, "Andrew DeYoung andrewdaviddeyoung###gmail=2Ecom" <owner-chem= istry.^^.ccl=2Enet> wrote:
Hi,

It appears that various quantities= that are output by Gaussian 16 use notation of the form 6=2E626D-34=2E&nbs= p; Is it correct for me to assume that this represents 6=2E626*10^(-34), an= d is equivalent to the scientific notation 6=2E626E-34 or 6=2E626e-34 = used in other areas, such as in C/C++, Python, and MATLAB?  Or does th= e "D" represent anything different from, or in addition to, "*10^"?

Thank you for bearing with me with this question=2E = (I am what we call in the US a millennial, and am not terribly well acquai= nted with the sometimes historical origins and meanings of notation!)
=

Best,
Andrew

Andrew = DeYoung, PhD
Department of Chemistry
Carnegie Mellon Un= iversity
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