Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d4247c0639788c49" Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 22:42:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Larry Rodriguez [lrodr747*gmail.com] --000000000000d4247c0639788c49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Jan for your years of dedication to CCL.net. As a first-year graduate student, I haven=E2=80=99t been part of this email list for long, = but I=E2=80=99ve gained valuable insights and caught a glimpse of its rich history. Wishing you all the best in your future endeavors. Kind Regards, Larry Rodriguez PhD Student | Bioengineering Program Dr. Giulia Palermo=E2=80=99s Computational Biophysics Lab University of California, Riverside On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 6:59=E2=80=AFPM Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com = < owner-chemistry^ccl.net> wrote: > Dear CCL Subscribers, > > CCL Closure > > With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing > the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no > longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a we= ek > or two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer > needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the > overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the serve= r. > On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with these developmen= ts > becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address > chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to the > list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. > > I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you > need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, > since there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( > https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my > commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and I > will probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server > without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately. > > I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of yo= u > were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that = at > some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistr= y > to gain more popularity. > > Thank you for participating... It was a honor! > > Jan Labanowski > jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net > > --000000000000d4247c0639788c49 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thank you Jan for your years of = dedication to CCL.net. As a first-year graduate student, I haven=E2=80=99t = been part of this email list for long, but I=E2=80=99ve gained valuable ins= ights and caught a glimpse of its rich history. Wishing you all the best in= your future endeavors.

Kind Regards,=C2=A0

Larry Rodriguez
PhD Student | Bioengineering Program
Dr. Giuli= a Palermo=E2=80=99s Computational Biophysics Lab

University of California, Riverside

<= /div>

O= n Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 6:59=E2=80=AFPM Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com <owner-chemistry^ccl.net> wro= te:

Dear CCL Subscribers,
CCL Closure

With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that = I will be closing the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will n= o longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a we= ek or two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer ne= eded. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the overw= helming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On t= op of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with these developments bec= omes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net and corr= esponding Web pages to submit messages to the list, will no longer distribu= te email to subscribers.

I will try to keep the CCL Web site running= for a bit longer, so if you need to grab something from there, you still h= ave a month or two. Also, since there are some unexpired position openings = announcements ( h= ttps://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my com= mitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and I will= probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server without m= onitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately.

I would like = to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of you were members = of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that at some point, = it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistry to gain more= popularity.

Thank you for participating... It was a honor!

= Jan Labanowski
jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net

--000000000000d4247c0639788c49-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 01:36:00 2025 From: "Norrby, Per-Ola Per-Ola.Norrby a astrazeneca.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55359-250709020402-12766-pQ5qXSVebfTu2P7KCHQRcw###server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Norrby, Per-Ola" Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DB9PR04MB8445C1F82BBC174B5B7BFF89CA49ADB9PR04MB8445eurp_" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 06:03:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Norrby, Per-Ola" [Per-Ola.Norrby[a]astrazeneca.com] --_000_DB9PR04MB8445C1F82BBC174B5B7BFF89CA49ADB9PR04MB8445eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jan, Thank you very much for all the work over the years. The list was very usef= ul to me at the start of my career, and I'm still following it, even if my = interactions with the list have gone down in latter years, as I've switched= field. With best wishes for the future, and happy travel! Per-Ola Norrby ________________________________ > From: owner-chemistry+per-ola.norrby=3D=3Dastrazeneca.com*ccl.net on behalf of Jan Laban= owski jasienku|a|gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2025 3:42 To: Norrby, Per-Ola Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Dear CCL Subscribers, CCL Closure With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing th= e CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It w= ill happen within a week or two. This service is just no longer used, that = is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of= work due to the overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to a= ttack the server. On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with = these developments becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the = address chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding W= eb pages to submit messages to the list, will no longer distribute email to= subscribers. I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you nee= d to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, since = there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( https://server.c= cl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it = was my commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, = and I will probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server= without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately. I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of you = were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that at= some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistry= to gain more popularity. Thank you for participating... It was a honor! Jan Labanowski jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net ________________________________ Confidentiality Notice: This message is private and may contain confidentia= l and proprietary information. If you have received this message in error, = please notify us and remove it from your system and note that you must not = copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Any unauthorized use= or disclosure of the contents of this message is not permitted and may be = unlawful. --_000_DB9PR04MB8445C1F82BBC174B5B7BFF89CA49ADB9PR04MB8445eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Jan,

Thank you very much for all the work over the years. The list was very usef= ul to me at the start of my career, and I'm still following it, even if my = interactions with the list have gone down in latter years, as I've switched= field.

With best wishes for the future, and happy travel!

Per-Ola Norrby

From: owner-chemistry+per-o= la.norrby=3D=3Dastrazeneca.com*ccl.net <owner-chemistry+per-ola.norrby= =3D=3Dastrazeneca.com*ccl.net> on behalf of Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com <owner-chemistry*ccl.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2025 3:42
To: Norrby, Per-Ola <Per-Ola.Norrby*astrazeneca.com>
Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away....

Dear CCL Subscribers,

CCL Closure

With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing th= e CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no long= er distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a week or = two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. = Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam attempts and also e= xploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am getting senile, and keep= ing up with these developments becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week = or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net and correspo= nding Web pages to submit messages to the list, will no longer distribute e= mail to subscribers.

I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you nee= d to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, since = there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my co= mmitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and I wil= l probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server without = monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately.

I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of you = were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that at= some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistry= to gain more popularity.

Thank you for participating... It was a honor!

Jan Labanowski
jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net

Confidentiality Notice: This message is private and may contain confidential and proprieta= ry information. If you have received this message in error, please notify u= s and remove it from your system and note that you must not copy, distribut= e or take any action in reliance on it. Any unauthorized use or disclosure of the contents of this message = is not permitted and may be unlawful.

--_000_DB9PR04MB8445C1F82BBC174B5B7BFF89CA49ADB9PR04MB8445eurp_-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 02:11:01 2025 From: "German Ignacio Sastre Navarro gsastre : itq.upv.es" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55360-250709025726-28073-c0SWPCd73hqp/EANlBIc1g%x%server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: German Ignacio Sastre Navarro Content-Language: es-ES Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 06:57:12 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: German Ignacio Sastre Navarro [gsastre]~[itq.upv.es] Dear Jan, Thank you so much Jan for all these years (how many?) of joining scientists together! I grew up scientifically with CCL. It has been a really good source of learning. Open discussions keep being a necessary resource. If we do not keep it, it is not that CCL becomes obsolete, it is that we are losing capacity to exchange views. Warning. With my best wishes! German ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- German Sastre https://gsastre.webs.upv.es Instituto de Tecnologia Quimica (UPV-CSIC) gsastre ~ itq.upv.es Universidad Politecnica de Valencia Phone: +34-96-387-9445 Av. Los Naranjos s/n, 46022 Valencia (Spain) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________ De: owner-chemistry+gsastre==itq.upv.es ~ ccl.net en nombre de Ernest Chamot echamot:_:chamotlabs.com Enviado: miércoles, 9 de julio de 2025 5:36 Para: German Ignacio Sastre Navarro Asunto: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Thanks Jan, for providing this valuable resource for so long. In addition to being a place to ask questions and get advice, and to announce developments and meetings, I’ve appreciated the collegiality and sense of community here. Best wishes! Ernest Chamot On Jul 8, 2025, at 10:15 PM, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com wrote: Dear CCL Subscribers, CCL Closure With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with these developments becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, since there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately. I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistry to gain more popularity. Thank you for participating... It was a honor! Jan Labanowski jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 02:46:01 2025 From: "Yury Minenkov yury.minenkov~!~gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55361-250709031549-13247-QbIP05BmHv3d0GUUqYqaew---server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Yury Minenkov Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 10:15:38 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Yury Minenkov [yury.minenkov|-|gmail.com] Dear Dr. Labanowski, It was a pity reading your last email. I would like to sincerely thank you for opening the CCL mailing and job lists, and for maintaining them. Personally, for me, it was more than just useful: I found my first job in the field of Computational Chemistry almost two decades ago using your CCL job list, and it defined my whole career path. Moreover, I enjoyed reading numerous scientific discussions at the CCL archive not linked to any specific software, and I emailed the CCL mailing list a couple of times myself. Once again, thank you so much, you have done an amazing job! With kind regards, Yury On 7/9/25 04:42, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com wrote: > Dear CCL Subscribers, > > CCL Closure > > With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing > the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net > will no longer distribute messages to CCL > Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. This service is just > no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this > kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam > attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am > getting senile, and keeping up with these developments becomes a burden. > So, at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net > and corresponding Web pages to submit > messages to the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. > > I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you > need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, > since there are some unexpired position openings announcements > ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to > run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some traveling > later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL Web site > at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a very > risky proposition lately. > > I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of > you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, > that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational > Chemistry to gain more popularity. > > Thank you for participating... It was a honor! > > Jan Labanowski > jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net > > From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 03:21:01 2025 From: "Marcel Swart marcel.swart,+,gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55362-250709035854-17452-q7bE1r+KtjrN1hYXltcRvg!=!server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Marcel Swart Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8BA5BD08-7C41-412F-A19C-2CB2E335B66D" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 09:58:42 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 $3826.600.51.1.1$) Sent to CCL by: Marcel Swart [marcel.swart[#]gmail.com] --Apple-Mail=_8BA5BD08-7C41-412F-A19C-2CB2E335B66D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear Jan, Thank you very very much for all your hard work on keeping the CCL alive = and kicking, and working well. I find it amazing that there were very few outages of the server, and no = spam messages. Hats off to a job well done! As future alternatives for the CCL community we could think of: =E2=80=A2 the Psi-K forum, http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/PSIK-FORUM =E2=80=A2 Matter Modelling, https://mattermodeling.stackexchange.com/ =E2=80=A2 within the Chemistry Stack Exchange, = https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/ Thanks Jan! MS > On 9 Jul 2025, at 03:42, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com = wrote: >=20 > Dear CCL Subscribers, >=20 > CCL Closure >=20 > With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be = closing the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net = will no longer distribute messages to CCL = Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. This service is just = no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this = kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam = attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am = getting senile, and keeping up with these developments becomes a burden. = So, at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net = and corresponding Web pages to submit = messages to the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. >=20 > I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if = you need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. = Also, since there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( = https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my = commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and = I will probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server = without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately. >=20 > I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of = you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, = that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational = Chemistry to gain more popularity.=20 >=20 > Thank you for participating... It was a honor! >=20 > Jan Labanowski > jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net = >=20 Prof. Marcel Swart ICREA and Univ. Girona www.marcelswart.eu marcel.swart:+:icrea.cat Disclaimer: I completely understand if you don't have time to work on this until = normal business hours. I won't be expecting an immediate response. --Apple-Mail=_8BA5BD08-7C41-412F-A19C-2CB2E335B66D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Dear = Jan,

Thank you very very much for all your hard work = on keeping the CCL alive and kicking, and working well.

I find = it amazing that there were very few outages of the server, and no spam = messages.

Hats off to a job well = done!

As future alternatives for the CCL = community we could think of:

=E2=80=A2 the = Psi-K forum, http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/PSIK-FORUM

=E2=80=A2 = Matter Modelling, https://mattermodeling.= stackexchange.com/

=E2=80=A2 within the Chemistry Stack = Exchange, https://chemistry.stackexcha= nge.com/

Thanks = Jan!

On 9 Jul 2025, at 03:42, Jan Labanowski = jasienku|a|gmail.com <owner-chemistry:+:ccl.net> wrote:

Dear CCL = Subscribers,

CCL Closure

With some melancholic feelings I = need to announce that I will be closing the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the = mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no = longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a = week or two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no = longer needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due = to the overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack = the server. On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with = these developments becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) = the address chemistry-#-ccl.net= and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to the list, will no = longer distribute email to subscribers.

I will try to keep the = CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you need to grab something = > from there, you still have a month or two. Also, since there are some = unexpired position openings announcements ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), = I need to run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some = traveling later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL = Web site at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming = a very risky proposition lately.

I would like to thank all CCL = participants, for being with me. Some of you were members of CCL = Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that at some point, it = was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistry to gain more = popularity.

Thank you for participating... It was a = honor!

Jan Labanowski
jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net

Prof. Marcel = Swart
ICREA and Univ. Girona

www.marcelswart.eu
marcel.swart:+:icrea.cat

= Disclaimer:
I completely understand if you = don't have time to work on this = until normal business hours. I won't be = expecting an immediate = response.

= --Apple-Mail=_8BA5BD08-7C41-412F-A19C-2CB2E335B66D-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 03:56:00 2025 From: "Marc Baaden baaden++smplinux.de" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55363-250709043754-16190-0DlqCL3CwjWzN888pzCA4Q .. server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Marc Baaden Content-ID: <52017.1752050258.1 .. lux.lbt.ibpc.fr> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2025 10:37:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Marc Baaden [baaden:-:smplinux.de] Dear Jan, dear Subscribers, Thank you for keeping up this fantastic space for exchange among this community. You did an exceptional job on maintaining the CCL, and it is sad it comes now to an end, but your analysis is very clear and relevant. Others have suggested options to continue such discussions, and I just want to throw in one thought: LinkedIn permits to create groups, and for now seems not so much spammed/distorted as other channels. Just my 2 cents, thinking out loud about how to fill the void that CCL will leave.. Kindest regards, Marc Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com wrote: > Dear CCL Subscribers, > > CCL Closure > > With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to > chemistry-#-ccl.net will no longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. This > service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due > to the overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am getting senile, > and keeping up with these developments becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address > chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to the list, will no longer distribute email to > subscribers. > > I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you need to grab something from there, you still have > a month or two. Also, since there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I > need to run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and I will > probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition > lately. > > I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of you were members of CCL Community for a long time. > It makes me believe, that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistry to gain more > popularity. > > Thank you for participating... It was a honor! > > Jan Labanowski > jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net > From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 04:31:00 2025 From: "=?UTF-8?Q?Kutand_Alk=C4=B1m_Bayer?= kutandalkim^-^gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55364-250709061223-24592-k/qoHMUWpz4ZfeJ2P4dgJw^-^server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: =?UTF-8?Q?Kutand_Alk=C4=B1m_Bayer?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000077fabb06397c4fb4" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 13:12:01 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: =?UTF-8?Q?Kutand_Alk=C4=B1m_Bayer?= [kutandalkim]=[gmail.com] --00000000000077fabb06397c4fb4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Prof. Dr. Labanowski Hi and honest to say I am new this forum and very sad about the closing this mailing list(deeply interested in Theoretical Chemistry and it's subtopics) but may I suggesting about using other alternatives such as Element,Discord...etc. to announce comp. chem. news and its subtopics. That's all I can say, have a nice week and work. Best Regards and Wishes Kutand Alk=C4=B1m Bayer On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 06:17, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com < owner-chemistry!=!ccl.net> wrote: > Dear CCL Subscribers, > > CCL Closure > > With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing > the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no > longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a we= ek > or two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer > needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the > overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the serve= r. > On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with these developmen= ts > becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address > chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to the > list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. > > I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you > need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, > since there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( > https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my > commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and I > will probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server > without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately. > > I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of yo= u > were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that = at > some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistr= y > to gain more popularity. > > Thank you for participating... It was a honor! > > Jan Labanowski > jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net > > --00000000000077fabb06397c4fb4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Prof. Dr. Labanowski

Hi and honest= to say I am new this forum and very sad about the closing this mailing lis= t(deeply interested in Theoretical Chemistry and it's subtopics) but ma= y I suggesting about using other alternatives such as Element,Discord...etc= . to announce comp. chem. news and its subtopics. That's all=C2=A0I can= say, have a nice week and work.=C2=A0

Best Regard= s and Wishes

Kutand Alk=C4=B1m Bayer

O= n Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 06:17, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com <owner-= chemistry!=!ccl.net> wrote:

Dear CCL Subscribers,

CCL Closure<= br>
With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be clo= sing the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no longer dist= ribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. Th= is service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, op= erating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level= of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I= am getting senile, and keeping up with these developments becomes a burden= . So, at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web= pages to submit messages to the list, will no longer distribute email to s= ubscribers.

I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit lo= nger, so if you need to grab something from there, you still have a month o= r two. Also, since there are some unexpired position openings announcements= ( https://server= .ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my commitment. I pl= an to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and I will probably clo= se the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is = becoming a very risky proposition lately.

I would like to thank all = CCL participants, for being with me. Some of you were members of CCL Commun= ity for a long time. It makes me believe, that at some point, it was a usef= ul service, and it helped Computational Chemistry to gain more popularity. =

Thank you for participating... It was a honor!

Jan Labanowsk= i
jasienku-#-g= mail.com , ccl-#-ccl= .net

--00000000000077fabb06397c4fb4-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 05:06:00 2025 From: "Robert Topper rqtopper#%#gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55365-250709073705-32039-mRE42d1X0k4rH/q72uc3Ag.@.server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Robert Topper Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007274b706397d7e4c" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 07:36:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Robert Topper [rqtopper++gmail.com] --0000000000007274b706397d7e4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jan, your service to this community has been invaluable and incalculable. I am deeply appreciative of the support given to the Electronic Computational Chemistry Conference, as well as the Virtual Winter School on Computational Chemistry, its spiritual successor. Your efforts brought us all together, no small thing to have accomplished. Thank you for your contributions, your hard work, and your dedication to open communication among this international community of scientists. Best wishes, Robert Q. Topper rqtopper*gmail.com http://engfac.cooper.edu/topper On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 7:09=E2=80=AFAM Andrey KALINICHEV kalinich(a) subatech.in2p3.fr wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: Andrey KALINICHEV [kalinich^^^subatech.in2p3.fr] > Dear Jan, > > Thank you very much for the decades of your service to the community! > The list will be missed. > > Cheers, > > Andrey Kalinichev > -- > Dr. Andrey G. KALINICHEV, Directeur de Recherche > SUBATECH (UMR 6457 - IMT Atlantique, Nantes Universit=C3=A9, CNRS/IN2P3) > 4 rue Alfred Kastler > , > La Chantrerie - CS 20722 > 44307 Nantes Cedex 3, FRANCE > T=C3=A9l: +33 (0)2.51.85.84.80 > E-mail: kalinich{at}subatech.in2p3.fr > http://www.imt-atlantique.fr/en/person/andrey-kalinichev > > Le 09/07/2025 =C3=A0 03:42, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com a =C3=A9c= rit : > > Dear CCL Subscribers, > > > > CCL Closure > > > > With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closin= g > > the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net > > will no longer distribute messages to CCL > > Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. This service is just > > no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this > > kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam > > attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am > > getting senile, and keeping up with these developments becomes a burden= . > > So, at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net > > and corresponding Web pages to submit > > messages to the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. > > > > I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you > > need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, > > since there are some unexpired position openings announcements > > ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need > to > > run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some traveling > > later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL Web site > > at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a very > > risky proposition lately. > > > > I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of > > you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, > > that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computationa= l > > Chemistry to gain more popularity. > > > > Thank you for participating... It was a honor! > > > > Jan Labanowski > > jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net > > > > > > > > -=3D This is automatically added to each message by the mailing script = =3D-> > > --0000000000007274b706397d7e4c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jan, your service to this community has been invaluable a= nd incalculable. I am deeply appreciative of the support given to the Elect= ronic Computational Chemistry Conference, as well as the Virtual Winter Sch= ool on Computational Chemistry, its spiritual successor.=C2=A0

Your efforts brought us all together= , no small thing to have accomplished. Thank you for your contributions, yo= ur hard work, and your dedication to open communication among this internat= ional community of scientists.

Best wishes,

Robert Q. Topper

rqtopper*gmail.com

= http://engfac.cooper.edu/topper

On Wed, Jul 9, = 2025 at 7:09=E2=80=AFAM Andrey KALINICHEV kalinich(a)subatech.in2p3.fr <owner-chemistry*ccl.net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: Andrey KALINICHEV [kalinich^^^subatech.in2p3.fr]
Dear Jan,

Thank you very much for the decades of your service to the community!
The list will be missed.

Cheers,

Andrey Kalinichev
--
Dr. Andrey G. KALINICHEV, Directeur de Recherche
SUBATECH (UMR 6457 - IMT Atlantique, Nantes Universit=C3=A9, CNRS/IN2P3) 4 rue Alfred Kastler, La Chantrerie - CS 20722 44307 Nantes Cedex 3, FRANCE
T=C3=A9l:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +33 (0)2.51.85.84.80
E-mail: kalinich{at}subatech.in2p3.fr
http://www.imt-atlantique.fr/en/person/andre= y-kalinichev

Le 09/07/2025 =C3=A0 03:42, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com a =C3=A9crit=C2= =A0:
> Dear CCL Subscribers,
>
> CCL Closure
>
> With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closi= ng
> the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net
> <mailto:chemistry-<= /a>#-ccl.ne= t> will no longer distribute messages to CCL
> Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. This service is just=
> no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this <= br> > kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam=
> attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am =
> getting senile, and keeping up with these developments becomes a burde= n.
> So, at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net
> <mailto:chemistry-<= /a>#-ccl.ne= t> and corresponding Web pages to submit
> messages to the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers.<= br> >
> I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if yo= u
> need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also= ,
> since there are some unexpired position openings announcements
> ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs <https://server.ccl.net/jobs<= /a>> ), I need to
> run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some traveling > later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL Web site=
> at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a very=
> risky proposition lately.
>
> I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of=
> you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe= ,
> that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computation= al
> Chemistry to gain more popularity.
>
> Thank you for participating... It was a honor!
>
> Jan Labanowski
> jasienku-#-gmail.com <mailto:jasienku-#-gmail.com> , ccl-#-ccl.net
> <mailto:ccl-#-ccl.net> >

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--0000000000007274b706397d7e4c-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 05:42:01 2025 From: "Gerard JP van Westen gerard.vanwesten . gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55366-250709074100-3695-69JaSWERz465ZJqLNQzF7g[#]server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Gerard JP van Westen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007896bf06397d8c1e" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 13:40:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Gerard JP van Westen [gerard.vanwesten()gmail.com] --0000000000007896bf06397d8c1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jan, Very sorry to hear this... Would like to join Rajarshi in saying that CCL was an amazing resource covering 19 years of my career... Thank you! When you are in the Netherlands in the Leiden area, a beer will be on my... All the best! On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 1:25=E2=80=AFPM Andrey KALINICHEV kalinich(a) subatech.in2p3.fr wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: Andrey KALINICHEV [kalinich^^^subatech.in2p3.fr] > Dear Jan, > > Thank you very much for the decades of your service to the community! > The list will be missed. > > Cheers, > > Andrey Kalinichev > -- > Dr. Andrey G. KALINICHEV, Directeur de Recherche > SUBATECH (UMR 6457 - IMT Atlantique, Nantes Universit=C3=A9, CNRS/IN2P3) > 4 rue Alfred Kastler, La Chantrerie - CS 20722 > 44307 Nantes Cedex 3, FRANCE > T=C3=A9l: +33 (0)2.51.85.84.80 > E-mail: kalinich{at}subatech.in2p3.fr > http://www.imt-atlantique.fr/en/person/andrey-kalinichev > > Le 09/07/2025 =C3=A0 03:42, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com a =C3=A9c= rit : > > Dear CCL Subscribers, > > > > CCL Closure > > > > With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closin= g > > the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net > > will no longer distribute messages to CCL > > Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. This service is just > > no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this > > kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam > > attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am > > getting senile, and keeping up with these developments becomes a burden= . > > So, at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net > > and corresponding Web pages to submit > > messages to the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. > > > > I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you > > need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, > > since there are some unexpired position openings announcements > > ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need > to > > run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some traveling > > later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL Web site > > at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a very > > risky proposition lately. > > > > I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of > > you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, > > that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computationa= l > > Chemistry to gain more popularity. > > > > Thank you for participating... It was a honor! > > > > Jan Labanowski > > jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net > > > > > > > > -=3D This is automatically added to each message by the mailing script = =3D-> > > --0000000000007896bf06397d8c1e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Jan,

Very sorry to hear this... Wo= uld like to join=C2=A0Rajarshi in saying that CCL was an amazing resource c= overing 19 years of my career...=C2=A0

Thank you!

When you are in the Netherlands in the Leiden area, a beer= will be on my...

All the best!

<= /div>

O= n Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 1:25=E2=80=AFPM Andrey KALINICHEV kalinich(a)subatech.in2p3.fr <<= a href=3D"mailto:owner-chemistry(0)ccl.net" target=3D"_blank">owner-chemistry= (0)ccl.net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: Andrey KALINICHEV [kalinich^^^subatech.in2p3.fr]
Dear Jan,

Thank you very much for the decades of your service to the community!
The list will be missed.

Cheers,

Andrey Kalinichev
--
Dr. Andrey G. KALINICHEV, Directeur de Recherche
SUBATECH (UMR 6457 - IMT Atlantique, Nantes Universit=C3=A9, CNRS/IN2P3) 4 rue Alfred Kastler, La Chantrerie - CS 20722
44307 Nantes Cedex 3, FRANCE
T=C3=A9l:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +33 (0)2.51.85.84.80
E-mail: kalinich{at}subatech.in2p3.fr
http://www.imt-atlantique.fr/en/person/andre= y-kalinichev

Le 09/07/2025 =C3=A0 03:42, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com a =C3=A9crit=C2= =A0:
> Dear CCL Subscribers,
>
> CCL Closure
>
> With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closi= ng
> the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net
> <mailto:chemistry-<= /a>#-ccl.ne= t> will no longer distribute messages to CCL
> Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. This service is just=
> no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this <= br> > kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam=
> attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am =
> getting senile, and keeping up with these developments becomes a burde= n.
> So, at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net
> <mailto:chemistry-<= /a>#-ccl.ne= t> and corresponding Web pages to submit
> messages to the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers.<= br> >
> I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if yo= u
> need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also= ,
> since there are some unexpired position openings announcements
> ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs <https://server.ccl.net/jobs<= /a>> ), I need to
> run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some traveling > later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL Web site=
> at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a very=
> risky proposition lately.
>
> I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of=
> you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe= ,
> that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computation= al
> Chemistry to gain more popularity.
>
> Thank you for participating... It was a honor!
>
> Jan Labanowski
> jasienku-#-gmail.com <mailto:jasienku-#-gmail.com> , ccl-#-ccl.net
> <mailto:ccl-#-ccl.net> >

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--0000000000007896bf06397d8c1e-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 06:16:00 2025 From: "Rangsiman Ketkaew rangsiman1993^-^gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: AW: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55367-250710014908-14672-mTMw4GIrctVqhunzoqwO2g(0)server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Rangsiman Ketkaew Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000070373706398cbd84" Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 07:48:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Rangsiman Ketkaew [rangsiman1993^-^gmail.com] --00000000000070373706398cbd84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found that not all mailing lists and pages of CCL are archived (yet) on the Wayback Machine. Best, Rangsiman On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 4:16=E2=80=AFAM Victor Rosas Garcia rosas.victor.-,-.= gmail.com wrote: > No need to worry about that. The CCL is archived at The Wayback Machine ( > archive.org). > > Victor > > El mi=C3=A9, 9 de jul de 2025, 7:16=E2=80=AFa. m., Korth, Martin dgd##uni= -muenster.de < > owner-chemistry:ccl.net> escribi=C3=B3: > >> Dear Jan, >> >> >> >> first of all, I would like to wholeheartedly join my colleagues in >> expressing their thanks! >> >> >> >> May I suggest that after shutting down you provide a =E2=80=98final=E2= =80=99 database >> dump of CCL to a public repository, e.g. Zenodo (https://zenodo.org/)? I >> would think that this could be a great resource for coming historians of >> science. (I know, history is a big word, but yeah, at some point we will >> all be dead =E2=80=A6) It seems likely that in the future such data arch= ives will >> be very easily accessible with data science methods also to non-speciali= sts >> and not totally unlikely that people will indeed be interested in mappin= g >> how discussions of certain topics developed over time. >> >> >> >> Best wishes & thanks again, >> Martin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 09/07/2025 4:42, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com wrote: >> >> Dear CCL Subscribers, >> >> CCL Closure >> >> With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing >> the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no >> longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a w= eek >> or two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer >> needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the >> overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the serv= er. >> On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with these developme= nts >> becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address >> chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to >> the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. >> >> I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you >> need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, >> since there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( >> https://server.ccl.net/jobs >> >> ), I need to run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some >> traveling later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL = Web >> site at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a v= ery >> risky proposition lately. >> >> I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of >> you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, >> that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational >> Chemistry to gain more popularity. >> >> Thank you for participating... It was a honor! >> >> Jan Labanowski >> jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net >> >> >> >> -- >> >> =E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97= =E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2= =80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80= =97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97=E2=80=97= =E2=80=97 >> >> .........Sebastian Kozuch......... >> >> ......Department of Chemistry..... >> >> Ben-Gurion University of the Negev >> >> .........kozuch||bgu.ac.il......... >> >> ......www.bgu.ac.il/~kozuch/...... >> >> =CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD= =CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB= =AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD=CB=AD >> >> --00000000000070373706398cbd84 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I found that not all mailing lists and = pages of CCL are archived (yet) on the Wayback Machine.

Best,

Rangsiman

On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 4:16=E2=80=AFAM Victor Ro= sas Garcia rosas.victor.-,-.gmail.com <owner-chemistry-,-ccl.net> wr= ote:

No need to worry about tha= t. The CCL is archived at The Wayback Machine (archive.org).

Victor
El mi=C3=A9, 9 de jul de 2025, 7:16=E2=80=AFa.=C2=A0m= ., Korth, Martin dgd##= uni-muenster.de <owner-chemistry:ccl.net> escribi=C3=B3:

Dear Jan,<= /font>

=C2=A0

first of all, I = would like to wholeheartedly join my colleagues in expressing their thanks!=

=C2=A0=

May I suggest th= at after shutting down you provide a =E2=80=98final=E2=80=99 database dump = of CCL to a public repository, e.g. Zenodo (https://zenodo.org/)? I would think that this could be a great = resource for coming historians of science. (I know, history is a big word, = but yeah, at some point we will all be dead =E2=80=A6) It seems likely that= in the future such data archives will be very easily accessible with data sci= ence methods also to non-specialists and not totally unlikely that people w= ill indeed be interested in mapping how discussions of certain topics devel= oped over time.

=C2=A0=

Best wishes &= ; thanks again,
Martin

=C2=A0=

=C2=A0=

=C2=A0=

On 09/07/2025 4:42, Jan Labanowsk= i jasienku|a|gmail.com wrote:

Dear CCL Subscribe= rs,

CCL Closure

With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing th= e CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no longer distribute messages to CCL Subscrib= ers. It will happen within a week or two. This service is just no longer us= ed, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam attempts and also e= xploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am getting senile, and keep= ing up with these developments becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week = or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to = the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers.

I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you nee= d to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, since = there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my co= mmitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and I wil= l probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server without = monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately.

I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of you = were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that at= some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistry= to gain more popularity.

Thank you for participating... It was a honor!

Jan Labanowski
jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net

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--00000000000070373706398cbd84-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 07:13:00 2025 From: "sanfa a ua.es" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55368-250710071034-16678-BPDopk7a6glXKkus3NwKAg[*]server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: sanfa=-=ua.es Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 13:10:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: sanfa[A]ua.es I would like to add my voice to the many others who have been helped by CCL. Jan, thank you very much for your hard work. Emilio San Fabián, Univ. Alicante, Spain. El 2025-07-09 03:42, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com escribió: > Dear CCL Subscribers, > > CCL Closure > > With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be > closing the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to > chemistry-#-ccl.net will no longer distribute messages to CCL > Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. This service is just > no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this > kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam > attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am > getting senile, and keeping up with these developments becomes a > burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address > chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to > the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. > > I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if > you need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. > Also, since there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( > https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my > commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, > and I will probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the > server without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately. > > I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of > you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me > believe, that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped > Computational Chemistry to gain more popularity. > > Thank you for participating... It was a honor! > > Jan Labanowski > jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 14:18:01 2025 From: "Johannes Hachmann hachmann-,-buffalo.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55369-250709074517-8213-/W6zokgh1+wZ8/FT8mSVJw/./server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Johannes Hachmann Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_SJ0PR15MB4583B941E46907CC004009E4DB49ASJ0PR15MB4583namp_" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 11:45:03 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Johannes Hachmann [hachmann * buffalo.edu] --_000_SJ0PR15MB4583B941E46907CC004009E4DB49ASJ0PR15MB4583namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jan, I'd like to echo people's sentiment here. I've joined CCL as a grad student= some 20+ years ago, and signing up is one of the first things I've been re= commending to any new student going through my group. First and foremost, I= want them to recognize that they are now part of a professional community,= learn about the kinds of questions asked by their peers in the field, and = see how to craft effective and thoughtful responses. Plus, of course, there= are the conference announcements and the entertaining occasional beef abou= t the merits/flaws of people's favorite functionals, whose code does things= better, or who banned whom and why. CCL has been an invaluable resource an= d a faithful companion for many of us over their careers - all thanks to th= e hard work, dedication, and careful stewardship of Jan. The list has defin= itely gotten more quiet in recent years and maybe all things have their tim= e. But I for one will miss CCL. With much gratitude and appreciation, Johannes ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------- Dr. Johannes Hachmann Associate Professor, Department of Chemical and Biological Engineering (CBE= ) Director, Engineering Science with Data Science Focus (ESDS) Leadership Member, Institute for Artificial Intelligence and Data Science (= IAD) Faculty Member, New York State Center of Excellence in Materials Informatic= s (CMI) University at Buffalo, The State University of New York 612 Furnas Hall, Buffalo, NY 14260 www.cbe.buffalo.edu/hachmann http://hachmannlab.cbe.buffalo.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------- > From: owner-chemistry+hachmann=3D=3Dbuffalo.edu__ccl.net On Behalf Of Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gma= il.com Sent: Tuesday, 8 July, 2025 21:43 To: Johannes Hachmann Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Dear CCL Subscribers, CCL Closure With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing th= e CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It w= ill happen within a week or two. This service is just no longer used, that = is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of= work due to the overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to a= ttack the server. On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with = these developments becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the = address chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding W= eb pages to submit messages to the list, will no longer distribute email to= subscribers. I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you nee= d to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, since = there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( https://server.c= cl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to = do some traveling later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the= CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becomi= ng a very risky proposition lately. I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of you = were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that at= some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistry= to gain more popularity. Thank you for participating... It was a honor! Jan Labanowski jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net --_000_SJ0PR15MB4583B941E46907CC004009E4DB49ASJ0PR15MB4583namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Jan,

I’d like to echo people’s sentiment her= e. I’ve joined CCL as a grad student some 20+ years ago, and signing = up is one of the first things I’ve been recommending to any new student going through my group. First and foremost, I want them to recogni= ze that they are now part of a professional community, learn about the kind= s of questions asked by their peers in the field, and see how to craft effe= ctive and thoughtful responses. Plus, of course, there are the conference announcements and the entertaini= ng occasional beef about the merits/flaws of people’s favorite functi= onals, whose code does things better, or who banned whom and why. CCL has b= een an invaluable resource and a faithful companion for many of us over their careers – all thanks to the hard= work, dedication, and careful stewardship of Jan. The list has definitely = gotten more quiet in recent years and maybe all things have their time. But= I for one will miss CCL.

With much gratitude and appreciation,

Johannes

---------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------------------------------------------=

Dr. Johannes Hachmann

Associate Professor, Department of Chemical and Bio= logical Engineering (CBE)

Director, Engineering Science with Data Science Foc= us (ESDS)

Leadership Member, Institute for Artificial Intelli= gence and Data Science (IAD)

Faculty Member, New York State Center of Excellence= in Materials Informatics (CMI)

University at Buffalo, The State University of New = York

612 Furnas Hall, Buffalo, NY 14260

www.cbe.buffalo.edu/hachmann

http://hachmannlab.cbe.buffalo.edu&nb= sp;

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From: owner-chemistry+hachmann=3D=3D= buffalo.edu__ccl.net <owner-chemistry+hachmann=3D=3Dbuffalo.edu__ccl.net&g= t; On Behalf Of Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 8 July, 2025 21:43
To: Johannes Hachmann <hachmann__buffalo.edu>
Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away....

Dear CCL Subscribers,=

CCL Closure

With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing th= e CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no long= er distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a week or = two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. = Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam attempts and also e= xploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am getting senile, and keep= ing up with these developments becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week = or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net and correspo= nding Web pages to submit messages to the list, will no longer distribute e= mail to subscribers.

I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you nee= d to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, since = there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), = I need to run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some traveli= ng later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL Web site a= t this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately.

I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of you = were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that at= some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistry= to gain more popularity.

Thank you for participating... It was a honor!

Jan Labanowski
jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net

--_000_SJ0PR15MB4583B941E46907CC004009E4DB49ASJ0PR15MB4583namp_-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 14:53:00 2025 From: "Projesh Roy projesh.roy[]gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55370-250709080331-26525-4SOFCPkZnE0bgOWw+gdDMQ ~~ server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Projesh Roy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a1a64406397ddc24" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 17:33:03 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Projesh Roy [projesh.roy^_^gmail.com] --000000000000a1a64406397ddc24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jan Lebanowski, It is indeed sad news to see CCL closing. Is there an option to save the platform through institutional or university support, as ]*[Detlev suggested? I am not fully aware of how to do that. There may be someone experienced who can advise on that. Best, Projesh On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 5:16=E2=80=AFPM Paulo E. Abreu paulo.abreu()ci.uc.pt= < owner-chemistry]*[ccl.net> wrote: > Thank you for your work and dedication on keeping CCL alive for all these > years. > I remember the early days and how refreshing participating in CCL was, in > fact CCL has been a presence in my scientific life almost from its > beginning. > I dont know if this is possible, but for historical reasons, will you mak= e > the content of the mailing list available for download ? > I know that in archive.org the site was "Saved 605 times between July 12, > 1998 and June 27, 2025" but I think that the raw files might be useful in > the future for science history scholars. > All the best to you and I can not thank you enough. > Paulo E. Abreu > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 4:01=E2=80=AFAM Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.co= m < > owner-chemistry-.-ccl.net> wrote: > >> Dear CCL Subscribers, >> >> CCL Closure >> >> With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing >> the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no >> longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a w= eek >> or two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer >> needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the >> overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the serv= er. >> On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with these developme= nts >> becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address >> chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to >> the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. >> >> I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you >> need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, >> since there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( >> https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my >> commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and = I >> will probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server >> without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately. >> >> I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of >> you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, >> that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational >> Chemistry to gain more popularity. >> >> Thank you for participating... It was a honor! >> >> Jan Labanowski >> jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net >> >> > > -- > Paulo E. Abreu > http://faculty.uc.pt/qtabreu/en > Professor Auxiliar > https://ucpages.uc.pt/cqc/linha-a/ > Departamento de Qu=C3=ADmica > Faculdade de Ci=C3=AAncias e Tecnologia da Universidade de Coimbra > --=20 With best wishes, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------ Dr. Projesh Kumar Roy Assistant Professor Department of Chemistry National Institute of Technology, Tiruchirappalli OJAS Building, Room No. CH-314 Tamil Nadu - 620015 India ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------ Email: *projesh]*[nitt.edu * *projesh.roy]*[gmail.com * Phone: +431-250-3999 --000000000000a1a64406397ddc24 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear=C2=A0Jan Lebanowski,

It is indeed sad news to see CCL closin= g. Is there an option to save the platform through institutional or univers= ity support, as=C2=A0]*[Detlev=C2=A0suggested? I am not fully aware of how to do tha= t. There may be someone experienced who can advise on that.

Best,

Proj= esh=C2=A0

<= div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 5:16=E2=80=AFPM= Paulo E. Abreu paulo.abreu()ci.uc.pt <<= a href=3D"mailto:owner-chemistry]*[ccl.net">owner-chemistry]*[ccl.net> w= rote:

Thank you for your work and dedication on keeping CCL alive for al= l these years.
I remember the early days and how refreshing participati= ng in CCL was, in fact CCL has been a presence in my scientific life almost= from its beginning.
I dont know if this is possible, but for his= torical reasons, will you make the content of the mailing list available fo= r download ?=C2=A0
I know that in archive.org the site was "Saved 605 times betwee= n July 12, 1998 and June 27, 2025" but I think that the raw files migh= t be useful in the future for science history scholars.
All the b= est to you and I can not thank you enough.
Paulo E. Abreu

On= Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 4:01=E2=80=AFAM Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com <owner-chemistry-.-ccl.net> = wrote:
Dear CCL Subscribers,

CCL Closure

With some melancho= lic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing the CCL Mailing list= , i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no longer distribute messages to CCL Su= bscribers. It will happen within a week or two. This service is just no lon= ger used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this kind of serv= ice is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam attempts and als= o exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am getting senile, and k= eeping up with these developments becomes a burden. So, at some point (a we= ek or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit messages= to the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers.

I will= try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you need to g= rab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, since there = are some unexpired position openings announcements ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I ne= ed to run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some traveling l= ater this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL Web site at th= is time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a very risky pro= position lately.

I would like to thank all CCL participants, for bei= ng with me. Some of you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It m= akes me believe, that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped= Computational Chemistry to gain more popularity.

Thank you for par= ticipating... It was a honor!

Jan Labanowski
jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net

--
Paulo E. Abreu=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0http://faculty.uc.pt/qtabreu/en
Profe= ssor Auxiliar=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0https://ucpages.uc.pt/cqc/linha-a/
Departamento de Qu=C3=ADmica=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0
Faculdade de Ci=C3=AAncias e Tecnologia da Universidade de= Coimbra

With best wishes,

----------------------------= -----------------------------------------------------------------

Dr. Projesh Kumar Roy=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

Assistant Professor

Department of Chemistry

National Institute of Technology, Tiruchirappalli
=

OJAS Building, Room No. CH-314

<= div>Tamil Nadu - 620015
India

-------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------

Email: projesh]*[nitt.edu

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 pro= jesh.roy]*[gmail.com

Phone: +431-250-3999=

--000000000000a1a64406397ddc24-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 15:28:00 2025 From: "Andrea Mauri - Alvascience srl andrea.mauri ~~ alvascience.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55371-250709082454-13922-TgDrAEIpI0V7vkyJI7HsgA#,#server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Andrea Mauri - Alvascience srl Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002961b406397e2948" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 14:24:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Andrea Mauri - Alvascience srl [andrea.mauri%x%alvascience.com] --0000000000002961b406397e2948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jan, I just wanted to say thank you for all the work you=E2=80=99ve put into mai= ntaining the CCL mailing list over the years. It=E2=80=99s been a really valuable re= source. Thank you again. Best, Andrea Andrea Mauri, PhD mail - andrea.mauri(~)alvascience.com Alvascience srl - http://www.alvascience.com/ --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 08:57, Andrey KALINICHEV kalinich(a)subatech.in2p3.fr wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: Andrey KALINICHEV [kalinich^^^subatech.in2p3.fr] > Dear Jan, > > Thank you very much for the decades of your service to the community! > The list will be missed. > > Cheers, > > Andrey Kalinichev > -- > Dr. Andrey G. KALINICHEV, Directeur de Recherche > SUBATECH (UMR 6457 - IMT Atlantique, Nantes Universit=C3=A9, CNRS/IN2P3) > 4 rue Alfred Kastler, La Chantrerie - CS 20722 > 44307 Nantes Cedex 3, FRANCE > T=C3=A9l: +33 (0)2.51.85.84.80 > E-mail: kalinich{at}subatech.in2p3.fr > http://www.imt-atlantique.fr/en/person/andrey-kalinichev > > Le 09/07/2025 =C3=A0 03:42, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com a =C3=A9c= rit : > > Dear CCL Subscribers, > > > > CCL Closure > > > > With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closin= g > > the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net > > will no longer distribute messages to CCL > > Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. This service is just > > no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this > > kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam > > attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am > > getting senile, and keeping up with these developments becomes a burden= . > > So, at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net > > and corresponding Web pages to submit > > messages to the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. > > > > I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you > > need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, > > since there are some unexpired position openings announcements > > ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need > to > > run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some traveling > > later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL Web site > > at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a very > > risky proposition lately. > > > > I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of > > you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, > > that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computationa= l > > Chemistry to gain more popularity. > > > > Thank you for participating... It was a honor! > > > > Jan Labanowski > > jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net > > > > > > > > -=3D This is automatically added to each message by the mailing script = =3D-> > > --0000000000002961b406397e2948 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Jan,
I just wanted to say thank you for all t= he work you=E2=80=99ve put into maintaining the CCL mailing list over the y= ears. It=E2=80=99s been a really valuable resource.
Thank=C2=A0you again= .
Best,
Andrea

Andrea Mauri,= PhD

mail - andrea.mauri(~)alvascience.com

Alvascience srl= -=C2=A0http://ww= w.alvascience.com/

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On Wed, 9= Jul 2025 at 08:57, Andrey KALINICHEV kalinich(a)subatech.in2p3.fr <owner-chemistry(~)ccl.net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: Andrey KALINICHEV [kalinich^^^subatech.in2p3.fr]
Dear Jan,

Thank you very much for the decades of your service to the community!
The list will be missed.

Cheers,

Andrey Kalinichev
--
Dr. Andrey G. KALINICHEV, Directeur de Recherche
SUBATECH (UMR 6457 - IMT Atlantique, Nantes Universit=C3=A9, CNRS/IN2P3) 4 rue Alfred Kastler, La Chantrerie - CS 20722
44307 Nantes Cedex 3, FRANCE
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E-mail: kalinich{at}subatech.in2p3.fr
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Le 09/07/2025 =C3=A0 03:42, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com a =C3=A9crit=C2= =A0:
> Dear CCL Subscribers,
>
> CCL Closure
>
> With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closi= ng
> the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net
> <mailto:chemistry-<= /a>#-ccl.ne= t> will no longer distribute messages to CCL
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> I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if yo= u
> need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also= ,
> since there are some unexpired position openings announcements
> ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs <https://server.ccl.net/jobs<= /a>> ), I need to
> run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some traveling > later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL Web site=
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> risky proposition lately.
>
> I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of=
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> that at some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computation= al
> Chemistry to gain more popularity.
>
> Thank you for participating... It was a honor!
>
> Jan Labanowski
> jasienku-#-gmail.com <mailto:jasienku-#-gmail.com> , ccl-#-ccl.net
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--0000000000002961b406397e2948-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 16:04:01 2025 From: "Anatoli Korkin korkin]^[nanoandgiga.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55372-250709085018-5960-l3uboShVAE6LovG7GaxeLw_+_server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Anatoli Korkin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002f2abc06397e84be" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 07:49:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Anatoli Korkin [korkin(-)nanoandgiga.com] --0000000000002f2abc06397e84be Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear CCLers, Jan Labanowki's contribution into science, technology and education is beyond CCL. In my own life and career Jan's help was critical. Web sites of my projects in technology consulting and education was designed and supported by Jan in their initial stage as replicas of ccl.org and they keep its origin along with some modifications and development including ASDN.NET (educational web site in atomic scale science), NGC conferences series (websites of first two were built by Jan, left side menu at the bottom) and NGS (my consulting company site): https://asdn.net/asdn/about/index.php https://nanoandgiga.com/ngc2017/ https://nanoandgiga.com/ Jan and I (with Jim Greer), we were editors of one of the books in the series published after the NGC conferences: https://www.amazon.com/Nano-Giga-Challenges-Microelectronics-Greer/dp/04445= 14945 When I lost my job at Motorola in 2003 Jan stepped in as a very dear friend and helped me to grow up as an independent consultant while some others who claimed to be friends ran away because I was no longer a source of funding support. Jan has a big heart and he has been the most supportive person in my life at the difficult time period. We all get older and technology development (in this case virtual servers and now AI) change the way we communicate in science and education. In some cases we catch for a while, in others we have to give up and enjoy watching the younger generation making its own progress on new paths. Inspired by CCL for a long time, I admire computational chemistry software including its intuitive graphic interfaces as a potential tool for science education with potential to be used in high and even middle schools. Unfortunately I was not successful in obtaining funding for my efforts and ended up by creating my youtube channel where I and some of my friends created lessons in atomic scale materials design (aka computational chemistry): https://www.youtube.com/],[atomicscaledesignfornewbie8489 If some of you (CCLers) have similar passion in education I will be happy to join some of the efforts or "market" yours at ASDN. May be this could be a continuing effort of what Jan has seeded 35+ (?) years ago as CCL! THANK YOU, JAN for what you have done for me and all of us! Best regards, Anatoli Korkin Tel: +1-480-329-5710 (WhatsApp andTelegram) https://asdn.net/asdn/members/korkin.php On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 10:16=E2=80=AFPM Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com= < owner-chemistry],[ccl.net> wrote: > Dear CCL Subscribers, > > CCL Closure > > With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing > the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no > longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a we= ek > or two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer > needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the > overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the serve= r. > On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with these developmen= ts > becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address > chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to the > list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. > > I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you > need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, > since there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( > https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my > commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and I > will probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server > without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately. > > I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of yo= u > were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that = at > some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistr= y > to gain more popularity. > > Thank you for participating... It was a honor! > > Jan Labanowski > jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net > > --0000000000002f2abc06397e84be Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear CCLers,

Jan Labanowki's contribution = into science, technology and education is beyond CCL. In my own life and ca= reer Jan's help was critical. Web sites of my projects in technology co= nsulting and education was designed and supported by Jan in their initial s= tage as replicas of ccl.org and they keep it= s origin along with some modifications and development =C2=A0including ASDN.NET (educational web site in atomic scale = science), NGC conferences series (websites of first two were built by Jan, = left side menu at the bottom) and NGS (my consulting company site):

= https://asdn.net/asdn/abo= ut/index.php

https:= //nanoandgiga.com/ngc2017/

= https://nanoandgiga.com/

Jan and I (with Jim Greer), we were edi= tors of one of the books in the series published after the NGC conferences:=

https://www.amazon.com/Nano-Giga-Challenges-Micro= electronics-Greer/dp/0444514945

When I lost my job at Motorola i= n 2003 Jan stepped in as a very dear friend and helped me to grow up as an = independent consultant while some others who claimed to be friends ran away= because I was no longer a source of funding support. Jan has a big heart a= nd he has been the most supportive person in my life at the difficult time = period.

We all get older and technology development (in this case v= irtual servers and now AI) change the way we communicate in science and edu= cation. In some cases we catch for a while, in others we have to give up an= d enjoy watching the younger generation making its own progress on new path= s. Inspired by CCL for a long time, I admire computational chemistry softwa= re including its intuitive graphic interfaces as a potential tool for scien= ce education with potential to be used in high and even middle schools. Unf= ortunately I was not successful in obtaining funding for my efforts and end= ed up by creating my youtube channel where I and some of my friends created= lessons in atomic scale materials design (aka computational chemistry):
ht= tps://www.youtube.com/],[atomicscaledesignfornewbie8489

If some of= you (CCLers) have similar passion in education I will be happy to join som= e of the efforts or "market" yours at ASDN. May be this could be = a continuing effort of what Jan has seeded =C2=A0 35+ (?) years ago as CCL!=

THANK YOU, JAN for what you have done for me and all of us!

Best regards,

Anatoli Korkin

Tel: +1-480-329-5710 (WhatsApp andTelegram)

https://asdn.net/asdn/members/korkin.php

On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 10:16=E2=80=AFPM Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|= gmail.com <owner-chemistry],[ccl.net> wrote:

Dear CCL Subscribers= ,

CCL Closure

With some melancholic feelings I need to announ= ce that I will be closing the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen wit= hin a week or two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no l= onger needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to t= he overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the serv= er. On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with these developm= ents becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net = and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to the list, will no longer = distribute email to subscribers.

I will try to keep the CCL Web site= running for a bit longer, so if you need to grab something from there, you= still have a month or two. Also, since there are some unexpired position o= penings announcements ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it wa= s my commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, an= d I will probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server w= ithout monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately.

I wou= ld like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of you were = members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that at some= point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistry to g= ain more popularity.

Thank you for participating... It was a honor!=

Jan Labanowski
jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net

--0000000000002f2abc06397e84be-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 16:39:00 2025 From: "Joseph Golab jtgolab59 . gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55373-250709085249-8081-2vGP9xSDdykErxznrQ88Lw .. server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Joseph Golab Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004cf9f706397e8d23" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 07:52:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Joseph Golab [jtgolab59:+:gmail.com] --0000000000004cf9f706397e8d23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jan, *All good good things come to an end*... -Geoffrey Chaucer (?) Thanks for your commitment to one of the foundational pillars of the quantum chemistry community. Similar to the (old) Quantum Chemistry Program Exchange, CCL helped foster collaboration, learning, and built a sense of community. That CCL has lasted so long is a testament to its importance amongst its members. Thanks for being its leader, defender, and (sometimes) judge. Thanks for being you, Jan! Enjoy retirement. Thanks, Joe Golab On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 10:12=E2=80=AFPM Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com= < owner-chemistry a ccl.net> wrote: > Dear CCL Subscribers, > > CCL Closure > > With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing > the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no > longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a we= ek > or two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer > needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the > overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the serve= r. > On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with these developmen= ts > becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address > chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to the > list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. > > I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you > need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, > since there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( > https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my > commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and I > will probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server > without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately. > > I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of yo= u > were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that = at > some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistr= y > to gain more popularity. > > Thank you for participating... It was a honor! > > Jan Labanowski > jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net > > --0000000000004cf9f706397e8d23 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Jan,

All good good things come to an end... -Geoffrey Chaucer (?)

Thanks for your commitment=C2=A0to one of = the foundational pillars of the quantum chemistry community. Similar to the= (old) Quantum Chemistry Program Exchange, CCL helped foster collaboration,= learning, and built a sense of community. That CCL has lasted so long is a= testament to its importance amongst its members. Thanks for being its lead= er, defender, and (sometimes) judge. Thanks for being you, Jan! Enjoy retir= ement.=C2=A0

Thanks,

Joe= Golab

On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 10:12=E2=80= =AFPM Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com = <owner-chemistry a ccl.net&= gt; wrote:

Dear CCL Subscribers,

CCL Closure

With some melan= cholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing the CCL Mailing l= ist, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no longer distribute messages to C= CL Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. This service is just n= o longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this kind of= service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level of spam attempts an= d also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am getting senile, = and keeping up with these developments becomes a burden. So, at some point = (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit m= essages to the list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers.
I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you ne= ed to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, since= there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs = ), I need to run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some trav= eling later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL Web sit= e at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a very ri= sky proposition lately.

I would like to thank all CCL participants, = for being with me. Some of you were members of CCL Community for a long tim= e. It makes me believe, that at some point, it was a useful service, and it= helped Computational Chemistry to gain more popularity.

Thank you = for participating... It was a honor!

Jan Labanowski
jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net

--0000000000004cf9f706397e8d23-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 17:14:00 2025 From: "Gabriele Mogni gabriele.mogni%%gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... Message-Id: <-55374-250709090117-15200-JlIneMCaW8AOmX7tfEcuhw**server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Gabriele Mogni Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000adaf1e06397eaa09" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 15:00:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Gabriele Mogni [gabriele.mogni*_*gmail.com] --000000000000adaf1e06397eaa09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear fellow Computational Scientists, Like many here, I also feel saddened by the announcement and decision to close down the CCL mailing list. I just wanted to inform everyone that I also manage some social media communities (mostly on Facebook and LinkedIn) dedicated to discussing and sharing various topics on computational materials science and chemistry research. You can find the full list of such communities on the following webpage, which everyone is welcome to join: https://www.qscomputing.com/social-media-links I know some of you already expressed some objections in the past about the use of commercially-oriented platforms such as Facebook and LinkedIn for the purpose of scientific communication, however I thought that they could still serve as a valuable continuation of the mailing list tradition in order to keep the scientific community connected, and especially for promoting collaborations and raising the visibility of everyone's research and articles! One of these large communities that I help to manage (in partnership with Prof. Aleksey Kuznetsov from the Universidad T=C3=A9cnica Federico Santa Ma= r=C3=ADa in Chile) is in fact entirely dedicated to Computational Chemistry topics: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1538107966433119 In my humble opinion, this shows how social media (when used professionally) can actually be of great outreach value, especially for the sharing of media contents such as graphics, videos, news articles etc..., and for helping to make the overall commenting and discussion about such contents more interactive and dynamic than just emails. Many thanks for your interest and consideration, any feedback is always welcome, Dr. Gabriele Mogni (gabriele.mogni##qscomputing.com) On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 05:20, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com < owner-chemistry##ccl.net> wrote: > Dear CCL Subscribers, > > CCL Closure > > With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing > the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no > longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a we= ek > or two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer > needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the > overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the serve= r. > On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with these developmen= ts > becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address > chemistry-#-ccl.net and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to the > list, will no longer distribute email to subscribers. > > I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you > need to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, > since there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( > https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it was my > commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, and I > will probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server > without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately. > > I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of yo= u > were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that = at > some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistr= y > to gain more popularity. > > Thank you for participating... It was a honor! > > Jan Labanowski > jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net > > --000000000000adaf1e06397eaa09 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear fellow Computational Scientists,

<= /div>

Like many here, I also feel saddened by the announcement and deci= sion to close down the CCL mailing list. I just wanted to inform everyone t= hat I also manage some social media communities (mostly on Facebook and Lin= kedIn) dedicated to discussing and sharing various topics on computational = materials science and chemistry research. You can find the full list of suc= h communities on the following webpage, which everyone is welcome to join: = https://www.qsco= mputing.com/social-media-links

I know some of = you already expressed some objections in the past about the use of commerci= ally-oriented platforms such as Facebook and LinkedIn for the purpose of sc= ientific communication, however I thought that they could still serve as a = valuable=C2=A0continuation of the mailing=C2=A0list tradition in order to k= eep the scientific community connected, and especially for promoting collab= orations and raising the visibility of everyone's research and articles= !

One of these large communities that I help to ma= nage (in partnership with Prof.=C2=A0Aleksey Kuznetsov from the=C2=A0Univer= sidad T=C3=A9cnica Federico Santa Mar=C3=ADa in Chile) is in fact entirely = dedicated to Computational Chemistry topics:=C2=A0https://www.facebook.com/groups/1538107= 966433119

In my humble opinion, this shows how= social media (when used professionally) can actually be of great outreach = value, especially for the sharing of media contents such as graphics, video= s, news articles etc..., and for helping to make the overall commenting and= discussion about such contents more interactive and dynamic than just emai= ls.=C2=A0=C2=A0

Many thanks for your interest and = consideration, any feedback=C2=A0is always welcome,

Dr. Gabriele Mogni (gab= riele.mogni##qscomputing.com)

On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 05:20, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|= gmail.com <owner-chemistry##ccl.net> wrote:

Dear CCL Subscribers= ,

CCL Closure

With some melancholic feelings I need to announ= ce that I will be closing the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen wit= hin a week or two. This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no l= onger needed. Yet, operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to t= he overwhelming level of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the serv= er. On top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with these developm= ents becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net = and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to the list, will no longer = distribute email to subscribers.

I will try to keep the CCL Web site= running for a bit longer, so if you need to grab something from there, you= still have a month or two. Also, since there are some unexpired position o= penings announcements ( https://server.ccl.net/jobs ), I need to run this site, as it wa= s my commitment. I plan to do some traveling later this summer and fall, an= d I will probably close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server w= ithout monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition lately.

I wou= ld like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of you were = members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that at some= point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistry to g= ain more popularity.

Thank you for participating... It was a honor!=

Jan Labanowski
jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net

--000000000000adaf1e06397eaa09-- From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 10 17:49:00 2025 From: "Mullier Graham GBJH graham.mullier_+_syngenta.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: The CCL goes away.... 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Message-Id: <-55376-250709100938-29780-qq4Rs4kjzMf+Uy8MtHgamg * server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Tibor Gyori" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 10:09:32 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Tibor Gyori" [tibor.gyori/./chem.u-szeged.hu] Dear list, Despite not sending messages I have always seen the CCL as a prestigious forum and I am sad to see it go. I concur that the list archives are a historic artifact that would be worth preserving, if possible. Some of the messages (especially the older ones) are available from the Internet Archive Wayback Machine, but I have no way of knowing how much is missing. Furthermore, the Internet Archive is unfortunately a lot more precarious than it may seem to be, as it is currently the target of several lawsuits by music and book publishers, which threaten to bankrupt the nonprofit organization maintaining it. > Simultaneously, I have noticed the volume of posts declining : it seems that the heyday is over in a way. Maybe because computational chemistry has become more robust, or maybe because it has moved on to other platforms? I think a major contributing factor is lack of awareness. A couple of years ago I mentioned the CCL to my supervisor who finished his PhD in 2007, back when CCL had way more activity, and he told me he wasn't subscribed. As for moving to other platforms, that is also certainly true. VASP, Psi4, MRCC, Orca all have their own discussion forums, some of which are very active, and I am sure there are many more fora. There is a chemistry StackExchange website, which caters to the Q&A format. Some people use(d to use) Twitter and Facebook. Also, an increasing fraction of discussions may be happening in languages other than English. I cannot recall the name or URL of the forum I saw, but I believe there are very active Chinese computational chemistry communities. Another platform that might also be gaining traction unfortunately, is Discord, especially among students. There are more than one reasons why it is an unfortunate platform, but the one I would highlight is that it creates non-public, unsearchable information silos. The messages and files posted to a Discord "servers" are only visible to people who register a Discord account and join the "server", which is only possible through invite links. (although those are often posted publicly) It is a platform clearly designed for ephemeral discussions and instant messaging, but it has (to a very large extent) replaced traditional web fora and mailing lists, along with Reddit, I guess. Thank you for keeping the CCL alive for so long. Best wishes, Tibor Gyri